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QB (3):

3-Carson Palmer—superb resilience after getting sacked and backed up inside the 10 yard line. Bomb to Nelson and TD pass to Smoke were big.

5-Drew Stanton—momentum of game turned on Stanton's interception. Mechanics look sloppy. Not inspiring confidence, but coaches still favor him.

1-Phil Sims—nifty feet and escapability, good snap and juice, nice spin on his passes, ball comes out quick and smoothly. Good sustained TD and FG drives. Jumped ahead of Thomas with this performance.

1st Man Out:

6-Logan Thomas---seem to carry no momentum from last week into this game. Was out of sorts from the get-go.

RB (5):

38-Andre Ellington—nice 11 yard run.

33-Kerwynn Williams—brings aggressive running style and inside the tackles toughness and had best kickoff return of the night---prompting Wolfley to say, "he stoked it."

39-Robert Hughes—didn't have a role in the game, but coaches know what they have in him as a FB/RB/ST player.

31-David Johnson—was very impressive, yes, he danced some early on, but he was more physical than advertised and looked like a young DeMarco Murray in the running and passing game.

27-Chris Johnson---out 1 to 2 weeks with hamstring pull. Gives the team 3 speed, receiving RBs and the kind of depth the coaches want.

1st Man Out:

30-Stepfan Taylor—had a nice 10 yard reception and was good on STs as always, but Williams' value as a kickoff returner and his aggressive inside the tackles running style give him the edge.

OL (8):

68-Jared Veldheer—gave up a sack to Melvin Ingram who may have been a tad off-sides on the play. Otherwise, solid blocking versus better edge players that what he sees in practice.

76-Mike Iupati—out 4-8 weeks after getting torn meniscus cleaned up.

53-A.Q. Shipley—he is playing solid football.

61-Jonathan Cooper—good run blocking, solid in pass pro.

74-D.J. Humphries—on the bad sack he gave up, it looked like the DE got a hand to his face (near penalty) which jolted him backward---but DJ has to be more sudden with his setup and his hands so that Des don't get to his face.

62-Ted Larsen—played very well in this game; played with a chip on his shoulder; stupid penalty should have been avoided, but Larsen was very physical in the running game and blew his man sideways a few times.

78-Earl Watford—solid game, but not as dynamic as Larsen's.

79-Bradley Sowell—got beat on a great spin move by Ingram, something he doesn't see in practice, but adjusted well from there. He needs to engage his man a tad sooner. Is playing physical football.

Suspended:

70-Bobby Massie—weird to see him playing with the third offense. Totally whiffed on a block that led to a 9 yard loss.

1st Man Out:

63-Lyle Sendlein—with Shipley and Larsen playing well this week, his chances may be decreasing.

Sleeper:

71-Anthony Steen—very physical in the running game both at guard and center. Could make a run at the C/G swing spot.

TE (4):

85-Darren Fells—heads up the weakest, least productive unit on the team.

87-Troy Niklas—hardly noticeable.

80-Ifeanyi Momah—turned the wrong way on his corner route, and later slowed down on a corner route to the right side. Not in sync with QBs. Not a physical blocker, although he made one nice seal block. Is now squarely on the bubble.

84-Jermain Gresham—has begun to make strides in practice.

1st Man Out:

83-Gerald Christian—needs to make a push and very well could in this weak unit.

WR (5):

11-Larry Fitzgerald—nice 3rd down conversion on delay slant.

12-John Brown—nice crisp, speedy routes and hands.

15-Michael Floyd—is training hard for his return.

13-Jaron Brown—made a great catch in traffic on that deep jump ball.

14-J.J. Nelson—his bomb was a thing of beauty and showcased his blazing speed. he also had the best punt return of the night and may wind up winning that role and splitting it with Patrick Peterson.

1st Man Out:

16-Jaxson Shipley—his 21 yard catch from Logan Thomas on a crossing pattern was a thing of beauty, as was his nifty punt return following the safety. Going out on a limb here to tab Shipley over Golden.

1st Man Out:

10-Brittan Golden—seems to be fighting it and is not playing yet with the kind of confidence he needs in order to make the roster.

16-Jaxson Shipley---good catch and decent return, but got outplayed by Nelson. Looks to have better feet, route running skills and body control than Golden.

NT (2):

95-Rodney Gunter---held up well at the point of attack, will see next week whether he can get better penetration.

69-Xavier Williams—looks the part, very physical and is a good tackler.

1st Man Out:

66-Alameda Ta’amu—he is making strides and is starting to round into shape.

IR:

98-Corey Peters—was having such a good camp. Hope he rebounds well for next year.

DE (5):

93-Calais Campbell—was disruptive, but needs to start making sacks.

92-Frostee Rucker—actually started the game at NT, but switched over the DT in passing situations.

90-Cory Redding—made a nice tackle inside on second unit. Would like to see more of a pass rush from him.

73-Josh Mauro---moved up the ladder with good, productive game.

91-Matt Shaughnessy—started at DE and was playing late in game---not sure what the coaches are thinking, but getting the start would seem to indicate he's making the roster

1st Man Out:

72-Ed Stinson—hasn't been making plays as of yet. needs to make a push.

ILB (4):

20-Deone Bucannon---with Spoon out, he's in and is playing very aggressively.

55-Sean Weatherspoon—team needs him asap.

51-Kevin Minter—solid game, drew praise again from Steve Keim.

59-Alani Fua---making strides as athletic inside LB in base and sub packages.

1st Man Out:

54-Kenny Demens—not making enough plays.

56-Glenn Carson—blitzed hard, but couldn't get to QB fast enough.

58-Edwin Jackson—had an excellent blitz late in the game and was good on STs.

Sleepers:

47-Andrae Kirk---had a better game this week, played a little faster, has good physical frame.

50-Gabe Martin—he has the speed and range the team needs, but again, didn't play until late in the game and was very good on one cover.

OLB (5):

57-Alex Okafor—had some strong plays on the ball.

44-Markus Golden—tipped one pass and was very active.

52-LaMarr Woodley—still gets a push on bull rushes, but not getting to the QB fast enough.

96-Kareem Martin—really got exposed on the edge for his lack of contain and quickness. Wasn't getting good QB pressures this week.

97-Lorenzo Alexander—not making many plays despite remaining a starter.

1st Man Out:

47-Shaq Riddick—last night was proof as to how much the Cardinals need better athleticism on the edge.

CB (4):

21- Patrick Peterson—played well and even played as blocker on punt returns, where he incurred a holding penalty, but then had a good block the next time. Says he's "ecstatic" to have the chance to return some punts this year.

25-Jerraud Powers—did not play, team needs him in the clot.

28-Justin Bethel—missed open-field tackle on a hitch pass, but was pretty solid in coverage.

35-Cariel Brooks—decent game, but this spot will likely go to a waiver or trade acquisition with Brooks heading to PS.

1st Man Out:

46-Jimmy Legree—still giving up too much cushion, but was closer in coverage than last week.

S (5):

32-Tyrann Mathieu—is getting the starts at FS and can double at CB when needed.

26-Rashad Johnson—smart and consistent, seems comfortable in sub package roles.

22-Tony Jefferson—very physical and aggressive—is getting the start at SS with Bucannon inside. Coaches putting best player and tackler on the field.

29-Chris Clemons---getting a good deal of playing time in sub packages and is looking solid in coverage.

41-Harold Jones-Quartey—for the second week he jumps out with big hits and this time with a nice interception.

ST (3):

7-Chandler Catanzaro—missed a FG wide right, but had a good night on other tries and kickoffs.

82-Mike Leach—-takes the blame for hasty snap on botched extrra point.

2-Drew Butler—had a 46 yard average and looks to be making a push. Catanzaro seems much more confident with him as holder.

1st Man Out:

9-Dave Zastudil---—is struggling and needs to rediscover his magic.

Keim Corner:

The TE and OLB situations are a main cause for concern---with the units being so mediocre, they aren't getting any better playing versus one another in practice.

Moving Deone Bucannon inside at LB makes the team faster and more aggressive. But, can Keim add an athletic ILB who can allow the team to keep Bucannon in a diversified role?

The need at #4 CB is glaring. Brooks has some upside, but he's not ready yet.

Five Arrows UP:

1. QB Phillip Sims
2. RB David Johnson
3. LG Ted Larsen
4. DE Josh Mauro
5. S Harold Jones-Quartey

Five Arrows Down:

1. QB Drew Stanton
2. T D.J. Humphries
3. QB Logan Thomas
4. DE Ed Stinson
5.P Dave Zastudil
 
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Nice write up. I would prefer Stinson to Mauro but other than that...... Not much to argue with.

Logan Thomas almost got Golden killed. The dude is fools gold IMO.
 

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Great overview. Stanton's play worries me but, as you said, the coaches seem to have him locked in as the #2, regardless. There's no heat for him to improve.
 

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Good stuff Mitch.

Like what I saw from Mauro on defense and special teams.
Sims looked more poised this week he stood on the pocket and threw a nice ball.
Williams versatility as a potential KR really boosts his chances.
 

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I've been laying into Larsen so I have to give credit when due. He had a decent game minus the dumb penalty.

Shipley was invisible so he was doing his job.

Sowell I believe will get CP hit hard with a whiffed block when the regular season starts.

JJ looked explosive and we have to find a way to get him the ball whether returns or passes.

David J looked like the real deal. Started out a little shaky but once he calmed down we saw a talented runner with many skills.

Jones-Q seems to be around the ball when he is on the field. I like the way he is playing.

Hump didn't impress enough to take the RT from Sowell which will hurt the team.

Watford didn't stand out so much as to challenge Larsen. Too bad, we need the young guys to make their presence known.

Momah has a lot of potential, but needs to get the playbook down and know where to turn and look for the ball
 

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Good write up Mitch. I would like to find a way to keep Demens, just think he has shown enough over his years to warrant a spot.

And when does Lorenzo Alexander stop getting a free roster ticket? Has he ever done anything notable for the team?
 

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Grice will be gone before Taylor...

Can't believe how much BA rides Humphries... His quote from earlier this week was such a punch to the gut when he stated Humphries shows up once a week.

I really really have grown to appreciate Tony Jefferson. He is a consummate pro.
 
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Thanks Mitch, good stuff.

Last week SK was saying that the TE unit was so strong that they might keep 5 because they keep the best 53 no matter what. I think we all know that isn't 100% truly the case as position need has to play a factor but why is SK so high on the TE's and you so low.

I should say that I wasn't thrilled with the TE play this game either so is SK just trying to get some trade offers?
 

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Can't believe how much BA rides Humphries... His quote from earlier this week was such a punch to the gut when he stated Humphries shows up once a week.

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Because Humphries is an immature clown who needs to get his ish together. Whatever it takes for him to grow up, I'm all for it. Knee Deep is probably one of the best and most appropriate nicknames....ever
 

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Sure looks like Hump is not putting in the work he needs to be doing. You can see the talent he has.

No wonder BA is all over him. He is a first round pick, not a UDFA
 

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Because Humphries is an immature clown who needs to get his ish together. Whatever it takes for him to grow up, I'm all for it. Knee Deep is probably one of the best and most appropriate nicknames....ever

Oh, I totally agree! And knee deep is awesome!! I just hope the kid finally "gets" it...
 

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Grice will be gone before Taylor...

Can't believe how much BA rides Humphries... His quote from earlier this week was such a punch to the gut when he stated Humphries shows up once a week.

I really really have grown to appreciate Tony Jefferson. He is a consummate pro.

Humphries has a bulls eye on his arse from BA because he was a 1st rd pick that wasn't at a perceived immediate need and so he expects him to give his all and play better than he is.

BA knows that Palmer can get us to the promised land but not if the RT position is a turnstile which appears to be the case at this point.

My guess is pre draft convo's had BASK putting OT at a much higher priority than most of us fans realize because BASK has made it a mission to put together an excellent Oline for obvious reasons. Add to that the need to protect Palmer more than ever and Humphries is simply pi$$ing BA off right now.
 

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riddick is a type of olb we dont have in the roster,he has agility and quickess,i can see him blitzing especially from ILB position
i read he should be cleared to play this week...finally
 

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I would add that Ellington is not far behind Hump with respect to BA's doghouse. Ellington got BLASTED after the Brown TD. BA ripped his head off on the sidelines and then in the post game presser, singled out Ellington by name, stating his mental error was inexcusable.
 
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Thanks Mitch, good stuff.

Last week SK was saying that the TE unit was so strong that they might keep 5 because they keep the best 53 no matter what. I think we all know that isn't 100% truly the case as position need has to play a factor but why is SK so high on the TE's and you so low.

I should say that I wasn't thrilled with the TE play this game either so is SK just trying to get some trade offers?

I don't know about you, Cardiac, but I am still mystified regarding BA's supposed love of TEs. Since BA has been here in AZ, the TEs have created more clutter and penalties in the running game than holes. BA doesn't throw to them, as BA has always favored throwing to the WRs.

This current group of TEs is well below NFL par---unless Gresham can save the day. I don't see what BA sees in these TEs. I do like Fells' and Niklas' size, but they really aren't great blockers or receivers. I had done a good deal of tape study on Niklas before his draft and I felt picking him in the 2nd round was a reach. He's slow and his blocking, imo, is over-rated. Plus, he rounds off his routes and he fights the ball rather than naturally catches it.

I have known Momah well because he played WR at BC. Good effort kid---and looks like he could be a standout in the passing game, but something is lacking, like consistent concentration, and he has been injury prone in the past.

Gerald Christian may wind up being the best of all of them. But, he isn't getting much PT. Not sure why.

Interesting last night to hear Wolfley say that the Cardinals had a 3-4th round grade on NT Xavier Williams, which then made me surmise that they must have had a similar grade on Gerald Christian, seeing as Williams was still available in Round 7.

But, BA and all his talk about TEs is one of the few cases where the words and the music don't match. Keeping 5 mediocre at best TEs (unless Gresham can quickly gain form) would be asinine, especially with such good depth at other positions.
 
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riddick is a type of olb we dont have in the roster,he has agility and quickess,i can see him blitzing especially from ILB position
i read he should be cleared to play this week...finally

I hope you are right because this OLB group is thin and not very talented beyond high-motor guys, Alex Okafor and Markus Golden.
 
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I would add that Ellington is not far behind Hump with respect to BA's doghouse. Ellington got BLASTED after the Brown TD. BA ripped his head off on the sidelines and then in the post game presser, singled out Ellington by name, stating his mental error was inexcusable.

BA was in mid-season form last night! Love the passion! Coaches em up hard and hugs em harder later. Wait until tomorrow until after he has seen the tape. He can't see from the sidelines what we see on TV.
 

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I hope you are right because this OLB group is thin and not very talented beyond high-motor guys, Alex Okafor and Markus Golden.

i think we need to make a trade for kendricks,,we are very thin and without talent at inside linebacker
plus we brutally need a decent corner

also concerned with NT,dont see gunther and williams ready to replace peters,and our defensive line is not anymore the main strenght of a defense whom had already some weakness
 
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i think we need to make a trade for kendricks,,we are very thin and without talent at inside linebacker
plus we brutally need a decent corner

also concerned with NT,dont see gunther and williams ready to replace peters,and our defensive line is not anymore the main strenght of this defense who had already some weakness

The Eagles are thin and injury-riddled at LB too---can't see them trading Kendricks---in fact, they have been outspoken about not trading him.

The Cardinals' coaches are not worried at all about the NT---Rucker started there last night---and the NT will only play such a small percentage of the total plays on defense that it is not a priority. Where the coaches are most upset about losing Peters was losing his penetration and inside pass rush ability (in the 4 man rush rotation).
 

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The Eagles are thin and injury-riddled at LB too---can't see them trading Kendricks---in fact, they have been outspoken about not trading him.

The Cardinals' coaches are not worried at all about the NT---Rucker started there last night---and the NT will only play such a small percentage of the total plays on defense that it is not a priority. Where the coaches are most upset about losing Peters was losing his penetration and inside pass rush ability (in the 4 man rush rotation).

yes i meant he was the only one who could penetrate and put pressure from inside
anyway we have great speed in offese but we dont have enough speed on defense,and thats something u pay in our division
 
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Loving the depth on these lists at most our positions!

Anyone see BA giving Ellington an earful after the Smokey TD pass? Wonder what that was about.

Edit: oops. I guess someone did see that after reading some comments above.
 

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BA was in mid-season form last night! Love the passion! Coaches em up hard and hugs em harder later. Wait until tomorrow until after he has seen the tape. He can't see from the sidelines what we see on TV.
Ellington 100% missed the blocking assignment that led to Palmer's second sack where the pass rusher came in totally unblocked on Carson's blind side and nearly killed him. I watched that play a few times on the dvr - Larsen and Veldheer took the inside guys as they should have, but AE crashed inside instead of taking the unblocked rusher coming from the outside. BA's wrath on Ellington was 100% justified.
 

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Some thoughts that aren't worth their own thread.

QB-Stanton will be gone next year, and neither Thomas nor Sims look like a long term answer.

RB-With David Johnson's night, I won't be shocked if Chris Johnson is out. Taylor plays special teams which is important. I don't see CJ doing that, and DJ being that up to speed.

WR-Nice group.

TE-Meh.

OL-Sowell and Massie look like a wash. Humphries was a bit disappointing. The rest looked ok.

DL-Nice group.

ILB-Garbage.

OLB-Physical group that looks worse that it is without help from the inside.

CB-Better depth than I thought.

S-Deep group.

P/K-Neither P has looked good, and Cat is missing FGs.

-Iupati will hurt worse than Peters. i am still amazed at the players who are playing ILB for this team. For such a deep roster, this unit is awful. Worse ILB unit in the NFL. Also is hurting Bucannon's development as a S.
 

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