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I have wondered for a while now why Webb is rated that much lower than the rest above him. I have felt that he is a 2nd rounder at least, not 4 or 5 as in most mocks. I think he has as much of a chance to make it as any of them as long as he is brought along over 1 or 2 years. But they all fall in that latter statement.
 

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LMAO. Today they were playing a quote by Arians on the radio where he thinks Carson Palmer could play another 3-4 years do it is not imperitive they get a QB this year, but it would be nice to get a guy so the organization knows who they have after Palmer. LMAO - Arians said they don't need but do need a QB in this draft! Yeah, that's helpful! :)
 

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I have wondered for a while now why Webb is rated that much lower than the rest above him. I have felt that he is a 2nd rounder at least, not 4 or 5 as in most mocks. I think he has as much of a chance to make it as any of them as long as he is brought along over 1 or 2 years. But they all fall in that latter statement.

and why should be ranked higher?
height arm strenght?

he barely touched the 60 % at texas tech and lost the job in favor of mahomes who had like 66/% of complete passes

watch his clips and i see several throws touching the ground
 

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LMAO. Today they were playing a quote by Arians on the radio where he thinks Carson Palmer could play another 3-4 years do it is not imperitive they get a QB this year, but it would be nice to get a guy so the organization knows who they have after Palmer. LMAO - Arians said they don't need but do need a QB in this draft! Yeah, that's helpful! :)


do u think with palmer we have a chance to win in the post season?

cause in 14 years of career he won just 1 playoff game
 

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do u think with palmer we have a chance to win in the post season?

cause in 13 years of career he won just 1 playoff game
I don't think so, but Elway sucked until his last couple of years, so who knows? I was just laughing because this time of year everybody, no matter their teams, hang on the words of their coaches and general managers, and most usually lie, or like Arians, make statements that everyone can read into. In Arians case the people that don't want a QB drafted at 13, will be like "See there's no hurry, coach said so!" The others that want a QB can look at that and go, "See, Coach says it would be good to get Carson's replacement now."
 

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I don't think so, but Elway sucked until his last couple of years, so who knows? I was just laughing because this time of year everybody, no matter their teams, hang on the words of their coaches and general managers, and most usually lie, or like Arians, make statements that everyone can read into. In Arians case the people that don't want a QB drafted at 13, will be like "See there's no hurry, coach said so!" The others that want a QB can look at that and go, "See, Coach says it would be good to get Carson's replacement now."

a winner has a winning attitude rushing in his vein, playing great under pressure,in clutch moments

palmer never showed that

but at least we had very good season with him
 

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I hope Dobbs is not a target. Every time I saw him play, he was awful. I think Watson is who he is talking about being ready to play day 1. Has to be.

I think he likes Kaaya, Kizer, and Webb.
 

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a winner has a winning attitude rushing in his vein, playing great under pressure,in clutch moments

palmer never showed that

but at least we had very good season with him

I don't know... I can think of more moments where Palmer led us to a game winning FG or TD with the game on the line in the fourth than him failing there.

That said... I still have my doubts about him in big games when it behooves your team to have a QB who comes out ready to rock... and Palmer's definitely had some clunkers... in pretty much every playoff game he's ever started.
 

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Hey guys, ARIANS said Palmer could play another 3-4 years, NOT me! Why are you guys focusing on whether Palmer can lead us or not? The COACH said he thinks since Palmer can play another 3-4 years he doesn't think QB is a priority. I was just reporting what is on the radio. Doesn't matter if I think Palmer is good or not. I am not the coach. LOL!
 

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The Cardinals have won zero Super Bowls/Championships since 1948.

Therefore, we shouldn't draft any prospect resembling any Cardinal player appearing during that time period
 

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I don't know... I can think of more moments where Palmer led us to a game winning FG or TD with the game on the line in the fourth than him failing there.

That said... I still have my doubts about him in big games when it behooves your team to have a QB who comes out ready to rock... and Palmer's definitely had some clunkers... in pretty much every playoff game he's ever started.

yes he is a skilled qb, probably too much stiff when he has to move outside the pocket and takes sometimes bad dacision. throwing high throws to undersize receivers

is a very good qb and obviously is human and has some weakness, but playing poorly in the postseason cant be ignored

so i dont like if this franchise mentality is being pleased with getting in to the post season, is not enough
 

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The quote I read from BA was that he liked 5 or 6 of the arms of QB's in this years draft but they have a bunch of work to do in trying to determine if any of them can be a good QB.
 

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Cards will be patient with QB search: Arians would love to get a young signal-caller ready

Arians said he believes there is only one quarterback in this year’s draft who is ready to start as a rookie. He wouldn’t identify him.

“All the rest, there are some really talented arms that need a year of learning how to play the position, especially at this level,” Arians said.
That would fit Arizona’s timetable.

Arians knows a lot about quarterbacks. During his long career as an NFL assistant, he worked with Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck. He said it’s important not to be too anxious to draft a player at that position.

“We’ve had two with the name on the card ready to roll and they’ve gone a pick or three picks ahead of us the last two years,” he said, “but you don’t want to reach. You’ve got them set on your board where you’d like to take that quarterback. If he falls to you in the fourth round, don’t take him in the third round because now you’re screwing up your board and you’re probably putting him in a position he doesn’t belong.”

Arians said the first things he looks for in a quarterback is in his head and his heart.

“If you’ve got a guy that’s got grit and he can lead, you probably can live with his skill level,” he said. “Now if he’s got skill level and those two things, you’ve got the world champ.”
Of course, arm strength is important.

“It doesn’t have to be a cannon because most guys with a cannon wait to see the guy get open, then they throw the fastball,” Arians said. “Those get intercepted the other way.

“You have to have some anticipation. So if you’re not quite as strong, you anticipate better and you’ll get it out on time. Accuracy is the key.”
 

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Cards will be patient with QB search: Arians would love to get a young signal-caller ready

Arians said he believes there is only one quarterback in this year’s draft who is ready to start as a rookie. He wouldn’t identify him.

“All the rest, there are some really talented arms that need a year of learning how to play the position, especially at this level,” Arians said.
That would fit Arizona’s timetable.

Arians knows a lot about quarterbacks. During his long career as an NFL assistant, he worked with Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck. He said it’s important not to be too anxious to draft a player at that position.

“We’ve had two with the name on the card ready to roll and they’ve gone a pick or three picks ahead of us the last two years,” he said, “but you don’t want to reach. You’ve got them set on your board where you’d like to take that quarterback. If he falls to you in the fourth round, don’t take him in the third round because now you’re screwing up your board and you’re probably putting him in a position he doesn’t belong.”

Arians said the first things he looks for in a quarterback is in his head and his heart.

“If you’ve got a guy that’s got grit and he can lead, you probably can live with his skill level,” he said. “Now if he’s got skill level and those two things, you’ve got the world champ.”
Of course, arm strength is important.

“It doesn’t have to be a cannon because most guys with a cannon wait to see the guy get open, then they throw the fastball,” Arians said. “Those get intercepted the other way.

“You have to have some anticipation. So if you’re not quite as strong, you anticipate better and you’ll get it out on time. Accuracy is the key.”

According to Gambo, the one QB the Cardinals think can start right away is DeShone Kizer. Seems difficult to believe, given that Kizer had a very challenging season in 2016, one in which he was benched once for inconsistent play.
 
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The quote I read from BA was that he liked 5 or 6 of the arms of QB's in this years draft but they have a bunch of work to do in trying to determine if any of them can be a good QB.
Yes, they have to have the desire to absorb coaching and mainly be able to look off and progress beyond primary targets. Huge trait. It takes a while. They have to be tough and overcome difficulties and not give up. They have to have aptitude to study quickly.

It's a process, but it has to be undertaken. And there has to be viable competition. A must!
 

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Yes, they have to have the desire to absorb coaching and mainly be able to look off and progress beyond primary targets. Huge trait. It takes a while. They have to be tough and overcome difficulties and not give up. They have to have aptitude to study quickly.

It's a process, but it has to be undertaken. And there has to be viable competition. A must!
Did u get a Sports psychology degree?:)
 

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I don't like any of the QB's at #13. I just think there at too many good players in this years draft to reach for a QB early.

There is one QB who has really peaked my interest lately and could be had in the middle of the draft. That QB is Chad Kelly. I think his off the field issues are overblown. He is the nephew and God Son of HoF QB Jim Kelly. He is an athlete and a competitor. Yes he has made some stupid mistakes as a young man but I think he has the strong family support needed to get past these maturity issues.

Harry had him listed as a possible 4th round pick for the Cardinals in another post. I initially thought that would be a little high for him considering his off the field issues and knee injury. However the more I think about it the more I like taking him in the middle of the draft.

The Cardinals don't need Kelly for the 2017 season seeing as the Cardinals have Palmer and Stanton. So Kelly can sit and learn from BA and Palmer while he recovers and learns the offense during his "redshirt" season. Waiting till the 4th round to draft Kelly gives the Cardinals 3 early round draft picks to use at other positions in one of the deepest drafts in years. Plus if Kelly doesn't work out, a 4th round bust is much easier to move on from than a 1st round pick.
 

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According to Gambo, the one QB the Cardinals think can start right away is DeShone Kizer. Seems difficult to believe, given that Kizer had a very challenging season in 2016, one in which he was benched once for inconsistent play.
Caution (Read carefully). BA was referring to QB's "who can play right away." Cards aren't necessarily in the market for a plug & play dude. If you skim the Arians quote, it might be easy to assume Kizer is the front-runner. Maybe not.
 

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I don't like any of the QB's at #13. I just think there at too many good players in this years draft to reach for a QB early.

There is one QB who has really peaked my interest lately and could be had in the middle of the draft. That QB is Chad Kelly. I think his off the field issues are overblown. He is the nephew and God Son of HoF QB Jim Kelly. He is an athlete and a competitor. Yes he has made some stupid mistakes as a young man but I think he has the strong family support needed to get past these maturity issues.

Harry had him listed as a possible 4th round pick for the Cardinals in another post. I initially thought that would be a little high for him considering his off the field issues and knee injury. However the more I think about it the more I like taking him in the middle of the draft.

The Cardinals don't need Kelly for the 2017 season seeing as the Cardinals have Palmer and Stanton. So Kelly can sit and learn from BA and Palmer while he recovers and learns the offense during his "redshirt" season. Waiting till the 4th round to draft Kelly gives the Cardinals 3 early round draft picks to use at other positions in one of the deepest drafts in years. Plus if Kelly doesn't work out, a 4th round bust is much easier to move on from than a 1st round pick.

Piqued BIM :)

On Kelly, I don't think the team would be interested. Personally, he's a huge risk, but I guess in a later round, it's mitigated somewhat. The risk still remains because it could affect the locker room, but again, that's not a huge risk. If they take him, I'll support the team. If they pass, then it won't matter.
 

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