Cardinals sign CB Fred Bennett

[Dayman]

as opposed to Rashod Johnson who sucks against both?

Johnson has made some nice tackles against the run this preseason. He's been putrid in coverage, but he's made some hits.

I'm definitely not against bringing in someone to replace Johnson. I just don't think Sanders is that player.

 

[AzStevenCal]

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/08/29/upd...bers-for-all-32-teams/?campaign=Twitter_blogs


Very adequate space to add at least another CB

Did you notice that a lot of teams still have significant CAP space available and we're right in the middle of the pack?

Steve

 

[Duckjake]

As long as all the DBs who played the last 3 minutes vs San Diego are gone I'm happy.

That Cardinals tradition of giving up first downs on 4th and 10 and 3rd and 6 and letting teams score with less than 10 seconds left in the game must be gouged out.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Did you notice that a lot of teams still have significant CAP space available and we're right in the middle of the pack?

Steve

Yes I did, however, I don't see how that has any significance to the subject at hand?

After watching the last 2 minutes of the SD game, all I can say is CB Marshay Green has absolutely no place on a football field. He had a clear shot to sack Volek on 4th and 10, instead he jumps in the air and completely misses, a 5 year old could've made that play. Then obviously the 'tipped' ball, aka it went right through his hands, which subsequently leads to him blowing a very easy coverage, costing the game. If this is the CB depth we have to look forward to....

 

[Duckjake]

Yes I did, however, I don't see how that has any significance to the subject at hand?

After watching the last 2 minutes of the SD game, all I can say is CB Marshay Green has absolutely no place on a football field. He had a clear shot to sack Volek on 4th and 10, instead he jumps in the air and completely misses, a 5 year old could've made that play. Then obviously the 'tipped' ball, aka it went right through his hands, which subsequently leads to him blowing a very easy coverage, costing the game. If this is the CB depth we have to look forward to....

Well I just finished watching that as well and I just couldn't bring myself to say it. It was especially tough to watch since I had such high hopes for Green.

Stupid Duckjake jinx.

 

[40yearfan]

He was referring to hindsight, in general

We weren't talking about hindsight in general. Here is what K9 said:

When you fail to plan, you plan to fail. A.J. Jefferson is our #1 cornerback right now.

Not sure how Wiz/FO could have known in advance that Toler was going to get hurt and even if they did, what steps could have been taken?

People forget that there is no such thing as a perfect team. Every team has weaknesses/lack of depth in certain areas and a major problem if the injury bug hits them and starts taking out their starters. You can't have back-up starters at every position. There aren't enough starter caliber people available for all 32 teams much less all 32 teams having 2 starter caliber players for every position on offense and defense.

I don't understand why people think the Cards can do it when no one else can. This is no longer your father's Cardinals. They are here with no fear and they mean business.

 

[Duckjake]

We weren't talking about hindsight in general. Here is what K9 said:



Not sure how Wiz/FO could have known in advance that Toler was going to get hurt and even if they did, what steps could have been taken?

People forget that there is no such thing as a perfect team. Every team has weaknesses/lack of depth in certain areas and a major problem if the injury bug hits them and starts taking out their starters. You can't have back-up starters at every position. There aren't enough starter caliber people available for all 32 teams much less all 32 teams having 2 starter caliber players for every position on offense and defense.

I don't understand why people think the Cards can do it when no one else can. This is no longer your father's Cardinals. They are here with no fear and they mean business.

You say that every year.

 

[40yearfan]

You say that every year.

Yeah, but I finally mean it.

 

[Mainstreet]

As long as all the DBs who played the last 3 minutes vs San Diego are gone I'm happy.

That Cardinals tradition of giving up first downs on 4th and 10 and 3rd and 6 and letting teams score with less than 10 seconds left in the game must be gouged out.

I meant to mention it after the game but I thought coming with the blitz on the last play the Chargers scored was a horrible call.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I meant to mention it after the game but I thought coming with the blitz on the last play the Chargers scored was a horrible call.

I honestly thought it was a great call. As Herm Edwards said best, "You play to win the game"! It was an aggressive call that forced the offense to make a play, and not the typical cards prevent defense which always seemed to fail. Had Green not been on the field at the time, a competent corner could've easily had the WR covered and made it extremely tough for the QB to stand there and make a perfect throw with the blitz in their face. Green is absolutely horrible, and that's the only reason why the play failed. All the good DC's in the league would've made the exact same call, and thats refreshing to know Horton isn't going to back down and let QB's pick the D apart.

 

[Mainstreet]

I honestly thought it was a great call. As Herm Edwards said best, "You play to win the game"! It was an aggressive call that forced the offense to make a play, and not the typical cards prevent defense which always seemed to fail. Had Green not been on the field at the time, a competent corner could've easily had the WR covered and made it extremely tough for the QB to stand there and make a perfect throw with the blitz in their face. Green is absolutely horrible, and that's the only reason why the play failed. All the good DC's in the league would've made the exact same call, and thats refreshing to know Horton isn't going to back down and let QB's pick the D apart.

I just thought that with a short field and an obvious passing play the DBs would have been better to keep the receivers in front of them. I agree sending an odd blitzer would have been fine.

 

[Duckjake]

I honestly thought it was a great call. As Herm Edwards said best, "You play to win the game"! It was an aggressive call that forced the offense to make a play, and not the typical cards prevent defense which always seemed to fail. Had Green not been on the field at the time, a competent corner could've easily had the WR covered and made it extremely tough for the QB to stand there and make a perfect throw with the blitz in their face. Green is absolutely horrible, and that's the only reason why the play failed. All the good DC's in the league would've made the exact same call, and thats refreshing to know Horton isn't going to back down and let QB's pick the D apart.

It would help a lot if one of the blitzing Cardinals actually got to the QB. The only time a Cardinal blitz has ever worked was when Dansby jumped up and blocked Rodgers throwing lane so Aaron had to pull the ball back down allowing Mike Adams to make the hit.

Hopefully Horton has some blitzes that will actually work in his back pocket.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It would help a lot if one of the blitzing Cardinals actually got to the QB. The only time a Cardinal blitz has ever worked was when Dansby jumped up and blocked Rodgers throwing lane so Aaron had to pull the ball back down allowing Mike Adams to make the hit.

Hopefully Horton has some blitzes that will actually work in his back pocket.

They always work in his pocket. Its in the field where things get dicey.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

We can alway bring Terence Holt in for a look. He played at NC ST. with Wilson so he must be good.

I guess the good thing is, no matter how bad it looks, the Cards don't have the likes of Eric Green and Terence Holt back there.

 

[Krangodnzr]

We can alway bring Terence Holt in for a look. He played at NC ST. with Wilson so he must be good.

I guess the good thing is, no matter how bad it looks, the Cards don't have the likes of Eric Green and Terence Holt back there.

That's the way I see it too.

Just look at the junk we've had over the years and tell me with a straight face that they were better than what we've from Jefferson and Peterson thus far? Richard Marshall would've been our #1 corner those years, with fans of this team talking about how awesome Fred Bennett is going to be.

IMO this group has the potential to be pretty good. Jefferson looks like he can play in this league, and Peterson is a top 5% athlete in the NFL. I think we'll see some rough games, but some good ones as well.

 

[Duckjake]

We can alway bring Terence Holt in for a look. He played at NC ST. with Wilson so he must be good.

I guess the good thing is, no matter how bad it looks, the Cards don't have the likes of Eric Green and Terence Holt back there.

It's the only way you can look at it and still give yourself some hope for the season. But the reality is that those teams all went 5-11 and most had defenses that ranked bottom 5 in points allowed.

The kind of seasons we had hoped were gone.

 

[john h]

Hate it when the Cardinals sign mediocre nobodies. If your gonna make an effort, go full out and get the Best available. Your telling me after scowering the earth for a replacement CB you came to the conclusion that Fred Bennett was the best option?


Im really looking forward to our 5-11 year

I do not even know the guy much less his ability. I do agree with your premise. If you are going to sign a guy then sign the best one you can.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I do not even know the guy much less his ability. I do agree with your premise. If you are going to sign a guy then sign the best one you can.

Once again, Black T points to an issue, a possible problem and offers no solution.

 

[ActingWild]

The Falcons docs must not have seen an issue with Kelvin Hayden's knee...signed.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

Well before the Kolb trade was finalized, reports were that we were going to trade DRC. It's obvious the front office knew this for some time. They should have had a plan to go after a CB in the free agent market but instead chosse to ignore it (just like they did with the QB situation last year). Once again it is a lack of foresight by the FO. I mentioned something similar with the THT trade. RB is a position with the most injuries, why rush to trade someone for a 6th round pick.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The Cardinals did make a push for a rather well known free agent at the CB position but he signed with the Eagles. We are lucky we pulled off the trade for Kolb because this is not some freaking video game like Madden where you can get whatever you want, when you want it.

 

[Duckjake]

The Cardinals did make a push for a rather well known free agent at the CB position but he signed with the Eagles. We are lucky we pulled off the trade for Kolb because this is not some freaking video game like Madden where you can get whatever you want, when you want it.

Unfortunately the Cards never seem to get anybody other than mediocre players.

The 3 stars on the team right now were acquired in 2001 and 2004. Its been 6 years since the Cards picked up Warner. 8 years since Boldin.

The only guy that looked like he could be an exception to that had to be traded because the team failed so miserably at getting a QB to replace Warner.

They've opened the checkbook so why aren't they earning the dividends?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Unfortunately the Cards never seem to get anybody other than mediocre players.

The 3 stars on the team right now were acquired in 2001 and 2004. Its been 6 years since the Cards picked up Warner. 8 years since Boldin.

The only guy that looked like he could be an exception to that had to be traded because the team failed so miserably at getting a QB to replace Warner.

They've opened the checkbook so why aren't they earning the dividends?

I'd argue it's front office related or player acquisition related. Up until this year we drafted need almost right down the middle. No wonder, that the year that we look like we didn't just draft need, that it looks like one of the better drafts that we've had in years. Its premature, I know, but on the surface it looks like every pick is going to stick except Studivant, and every pick has shown something positive this preseason.

We may walk away with 3-5 starters from this draft down the road.

 

[CardsFan88]

They signed Marshall. Thus they did have a plan. As also said above they went after another cb, but like every team but one, didn't get him.

They didn't just get a 6th round pick for Hightower. They got Vonnie Holliday. Holliday is as good a throw in as you'll ever going to get. This guy is still solid. I like that we got Holliday on this team.

It sucks that we lost Ryan Williams, and before hearing of this trade, I would've preferred having a deeper backfield. But still, we made a move, got a pick and a decent player. It's alot better than just letting Hightower walk next year. No way we were going to re-sign him. He wasn't going to take a 2 mill a year deal.

People are projecting Hightower to be all-pro after a few carries, forgetting about Holliday, and Marshall.

Not all the moves were forward, they were sideways, but we DECIDED we needed to move laterally. It wasn't forced upon us.

People are forgetting this. Throw in a couple of injuries and people freak out and rejudge everything in hindsight and try to hold you to this standard...meanwhile again projecting greatness by the guys we gave up off a few preseason carries, and obviously drc's tackling prowess.

I understand the frustration, but people need to calm down and quit jumping to conclusions and reading everything as the worst possible case. Let's actually get some games under our belt before we start judging what now can't be judged.

 

[MrYeahBut]

They signed Marshall. Thus they did have a plan. As also said above they went after another cb, but like every team but one, didn't get him.

They didn't just get a 6th round pick for Hightower. They got Vonnie Holliday. Holliday is as good a throw in as you'll ever going to get. This guy is still solid. I like that we got Holliday on this team.

It sucks that we lost Ryan Williams, and before hearing of this trade, I would've preferred having a deeper backfield. But still, we made a move, got a pick and a decent player. It's alot better than just letting Hightower walk next year. No way we were going to re-sign him. He wasn't going to take a 2 mill a year deal.

People are projecting Hightower to be all-pro after a few carries, forgetting about Holliday, and Marshall.

Not all the moves were forward, they were sideways, but we DECIDED we needed to move laterally. It wasn't forced upon us.

People are forgetting this. Throw in a couple of injuries and people freak out and rejudge everything in hindsight and try to hold you to this standard...meanwhile again projecting greatness by the guys we gave up off a few preseason carries, and obviously drc's tackling prowess.

I understand the frustration, but people need to calm down and quit jumping to conclusions and reading everything as the worst possible case. Let's actually get some games under our belt before we start judging what now can't be judged.

I have no problem waiting....I just don't want to wait until after 8 games and we sit at 3-5 or worse, to find out the team has major holes again

I am however, willing to wait to see if the FO can find CB help after the cut down. I really don't think they are going looking for OLBs for the pass rush and that concerns me somewhat. Not sure there is anyone to be had in that dept anyway. Maybe a solid safety could be had if they dont think A dub can go and I think we're all wondering about RB