Cards Bolts Game Thread

[Renz]

And the cards will cover. Of course. Best covering team in the league.

Don't ever give 14 points on an NFL game. Especially in week 17.

 

[justAndy]

the failure to kick a field goal at the end of the 1st half and BJ's muff of the punt leading to a Chargers recovery for TD are the events that will cost the Cards this game.
Mental errors...

 

[D-Dogg]

Thanks BJ.

Dropped TD vs. Bears = Loss
Dropped TD vs another team = Loss
Dropped Punt vs. Chargers = Loss

 

[Codeofhammurabi]

He touched his facemask, but a pretty cheap personal foul.

 

[Billy Bob]

Denny is gone by noon tomarrow.

 

[Renz]

Denny is gone by noon tomorrow.

Yep.

 

[imaCafan]

Maybe by midnight tonight!

 

[AZCB34]

Thanks BJ.

Dropped TD vs. Bears = Loss
Dropped TD vs another team = Loss
Dropped Punt vs. Chargers = Loss

Thanks Denny.

You blew more games than any Cardinal over the year.

 

[D-Dogg]

Thanks Denny.

You blew more games than any Cardinal over the year.

So? Denny is gone.

 

[kerouac9]

Thanks BJ.

Dropped TD vs. Bears = Loss
Dropped TD vs another team = Loss
Dropped Punt vs. Chargers = Loss

No worse than Rackers. Missed figgie against the Bears and Chiefs cost the team two wins.

No worse than Warner. Clutch fumbles cost the Cards at least two wins. Deciding to pad his stats instead of the scoreboard at the end of the first half today may have cost the Cards this game, if not overtime.

BJ is still an asset to this team. I hope he's back next season.

 

[BigRedFan]

While I would have liked to see the Cardinals come back and win, there are some positive aspects to the loss. The Cardinals showed some life on offense, which is always good, yet played badly enough to (hopefully) assure that Green wont come back. Only 4-3 since the bad start, which projects to a 9-7 record, which is still not that impressive. And we should be placed perfectly in the draft, high enough to get a blue chipper, but low enough to get a better value on the pick. Bye bye Dennis Green!

 

[BigRedArk]

No worse than Rackers. Missed figgie against the Bears and Chiefs cost the team two wins.

No worse than Warner. Clutch fumbles cost the Cards at least two wins. Deciding to pad his stats instead of the scoreboard at the end of the first half today may have cost the Cards this game, if not overtime.

BJ is still an asset to this team. I hope he's back next season.

I still believe we can do better for a deep threat than BJ K9. How difficult can that really be?

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

No worse than Rackers. Missed figgie against the Bears and Chiefs cost the team two wins.

No worse than Warner. Clutch fumbles cost the Cards at least two wins. Deciding to pad his stats instead of the scoreboard at the end of the first half today may have cost the Cards this game, if not overtime.

BJ is still an asset to this team. I hope he's back next season.

Missed figgie?
lol

 

[Renz]

No worse than Rackers. Missed figgie against the Bears and Chiefs cost the team two wins.

No worse than Warner. Clutch fumbles cost the Cards at least two wins. Deciding to pad his stats instead of the scoreboard at the end of the first half today may have cost the Cards this game, if not overtime.

BJ is still an asset to this team. I hope he's back next season.

Rackers against the Chiefs would have tied the game, we didn't lose because of him. Warner was benched because of his play. McCoy and Spurlock can do as well as Johnson.

 

[kerouac9]

I still believe we can do better for a deep threat than BJ K9. How difficult can that really be?

But I don't want to cash the BJ chip when he's basically free next season, and we have no idea what we can get for a better "deep threat" right now.

One thing that's underrated about BJ is that he's a great downfield blocker for Anquan and Fitz as well as on those bubble screens that the Cards like to run. I still think that he is one of the top 5 or 10 3rd WRs in the NFL, at least.

Ask the Giants how hard it is to find a better 3rd WR. Or the Steelers. As much as people here think that guys like Santana Moss and Chris Henry (whom I wanted the Cards to draft) are a dime a dozen. It took Plaxico Burress 4 years to develop into the player that he is today, and he was just as frustrating for Steelers fans as #80 has been for us. I don't want to give up on our guy yet, because I think he could be a poor man's Burress.

I'm not saying that Bryant is blameless, far from it. But I don't think that he bears the full burder for the Cards being 5-11 instead of 8-8, as D-dogg seemed to be asserting.

 

[Pariah]

Once again, no hurry-up with 6 minutes elft and two scores to go. That's the worst part about Green's coaching, IMO. No sense of urgency, even when matters are urgent.

 

[D-Dogg]

But I don't think that he bears the full burder for the Cards being 5-11 instead of 8-8, as D-dogg seemed to be asserting.

No, I am not. I actually really like BJ. He just frustrates me to no end.

His penchant for dropping the ball in key situations however, is well worth calling him out for.

Rackers, Warner, BJ, E. Green, Rolle, Step, Big, Ross....all these guys share a lot of blame.

However Green and Clancy really are responsible for the underperforming team we've seen.

 

[kerouac9]

No, I am not. I actually really like BJ. He just frustrates me to no end.

His penchant for dropping the ball in key situations however, is well worth calling him out for.

Rackers, Warner, BJ, E. Green, Rolle, Step, Big, Ross....all these guys share a lot of blame.

However Green and Clancy really are responsible for the underperforming team we've seen.

That I agree with. But I also think that Rod Graves shares a lot of blame for not setting proper expectations (like coming out in Week 3 or whenever and saying that this team wasn't 2 players away from a playoff berth), nor for fixing obvious problems at backup OT, LB, and CB positions.

There's plenty of blame to go around. I just think that Bryant Johnson is pretty far down on that list.

 

[BigRedArk]

But I don't want to cash the BJ chip when he's basically free next season, and we have no idea what we can get for a better "deep threat" right now.

One thing that's underrated about BJ is that he's a great downfield blocker for Anquan and Fitz as well as on those bubble screens that the Cards like to run. I still think that he is one of the top 5 or 10 3rd WRs in the NFL, at least.

Ask the Giants how hard it is to find a better 3rd WR. Or the Steelers. As much as people here think that guys like Santana Moss and Chris Henry (whom I wanted the Cards to draft) are a dime a dozen. It took Plaxico Burress 4 years to develop into the player that he is today, and he was just as frustrating for Steelers fans as #80 has been for us. I don't want to give up on our guy yet, because I think he could be a poor man's Burress.

I'm not saying that Bryant is blameless, far from it. But I don't think that he bears the full burder for the Cards being 5-11 instead of 8-8, as D-dogg seemed to be asserting.

Good point about Burress and not giving up too soon on him. He is cheap also as you point out. He does seem like a genuine momentum killer though. I guess i just need a scapegoat. He fits the mold pretty well!

Maybe with a new coaching staff they can tap into some of his potential. However is his penchant for dropping the ball at the most inopportune times fixable though?

 

[ajcardfan]

Maybe with a new coaching staff they can tap into some of his potential. However is his penchant for dropping the ball at the most inopportune times fixable though?

Even on his big catch, it slid down his gut and he didn't secure it until it was by his crotch. Which was exactly how he dropped the TD pass against KC. He traps the ball against his body, doesn't depend on his hands enough. I think he can be improved through coaching, but how do we know what he's had so far? For all we know, coaches could've pointed it out 1,000 times by now.

 

[red desert]

BJ's drops have nothing to do with anything except his lack of concentration. He needs to hit the road, IMO. I'd even let him go without compensation.

 

[BigRedArk]

Even on his big catch, it slid down his gut and he didn't secure it until it was by his crotch. Which was exactly how he dropped the TD pass against KC. He traps the ball against his body, doesn't depend on his hands enough. I think he can be improved through coaching, but how do we know what he's had so far? For all we know, coaches could've pointed it out 1,000 times by now.

Very true aj. Didn't Sully coach him some as our OC his Rookie year? I dunno about the guy. I hope the next regime can help him reach his potential. I sure am frustrated by the dude though.

 

[conraddobler]

BJ's drops have nothing to do with anything except his lack of concentration. He needs to hit the road, IMO. I'd even let him go without compensation.

A WR who can't catch was the definition of a DB I thought?

I'd convert him.

 

[red desert]

A WR who can't catch was the definition of a DB I thought?

I'd convert him.

If he can play 10 yards off a receiver (like Rolle) then I think you got a plan there.