Cards | Team very high on ILB Daryl Washington, may trade up

[Monty]

I'm worried that our scouting staff has no idea what they're looking for when it comes to linebackers.

They've done pretty well in the draft for you not to have any confidence in them. I know you're referring to linebackers but just because you dont like Washington dont mean they dont know how to draft linebackers. Its still early but i liked both the Brown and Davis picks so i think they deserve the benefit of the doubt here K9.

 

[Azlen]

Good call.

 

[Shogun]

Welcome to AZ, Daryl.

 

[Shzm13]

We traded one of our thirds? He better be worth it

 

[ajcardfan]

Wow, they nailed that prediction.


Personally, i like the kid and think he could have a Dansby-like impact in pass coverage. Which is probably why the Cards took him.

I do get the Johnson and Thompson comparisons. Most likely he'll be somewhere in between Raynoch and Karlos.

 

[Gee!]

Not gonna happen IMO

I think our scouting staff has earned the benefit of the doubt with their drafts over the last several years.

I believe that all the Washington talk and cooing you are hearing is bogus.

 

[football karma]

not Brandon Johnson -- who was basically a defensive end type OLB.

Washington is a well rounded LB -- not a pass rusher, but a do it all type. No question he is lean -- he played most of the year in the 225 range.

Like Karlos -- he will need to be protected.

 

[kerouac9]

They've done pretty well in the draft for you not to have any confidence in them. I know you're referring to linebackers but just because you dont like Washington dont mean they dont know how to draft linebackers. Its still early but i liked both the Brown and Davis picks so i think they deserve the benefit of the doubt here K9.

Inside linebackers. DJ said it all with the selections that they've made so far. Dansby was an easy pick because he was a first-round value that slid.

I could just as easily say that this staff hasn't shown that it can evaluate nose tackles, but I think that Dan Williams was the #1 player on their 250 board.

When you miss so completely on four or five ILB types, it might mean that you have a problem.

Look at the tape--where does Daryl Washington make plays against good teams? There are no New Mexicos or UNLVs in the NFL. Daryl Washington = Raynoch Thompson.

 

[football karma]

btw -- Washington is the "run and chase" guy

the third will be a choice between a CB or a thumper ILB -- whatever the higher rated player remaining

 

[kerouac9]

not Brandon Johnson -- who was basically a defensive end type OLB.

Washington is a well rounded LB -- not a pass rusher, but a do it all type. No question he is lean -- he played most of the year in the 225 range.

Like Karlos -- he will need to be protected.

No he wasn't. He was a WILB type. 6'5", 228 out of Louisville. 4.59 40.

 

[Duckjake]

And 'Los was drafted outside also.

Now I remember that Blackstock was a 3-4 rush LB at Virginia. The Cards drafted him and tried to have him play OLB in the 4-3. It didn't work real well because Blackstock was slow as a 1995 phone modem internet connection.

 

[Monty]

Inside linebackers. DJ said it all with the selections that they've made so far. Dansby was an easy pick because he was a first-round value that slid.

I could just as easily say that this staff hasn't shown that it can evaluate nose tackles, but I think that Dan Williams was the #1 player on their 250 board.

When you miss so completely on four or five ILB types, it might mean that you have a problem.

Look at the tape--where does Daryl Washington make plays against good teams? There are no New Mexicos or UNLVs in the NFL. Daryl Washington = Raynoch Thompson.

Ouch. I think Washington is a good player but we gave up too much for him when it looks like the likes of Sean Lee and Jamar Chaney are there in the second and possibly third. I personally was higher on both of these guys but if the rest of the draft goes well i can handle it.I just think we handicapped how we do in the rest of the draft by going for this trade and giving up a valuable third round pick.

 

[Buckybird]

Inside linebackers. DJ said it all with the selections that they've made so far. Dansby was an easy pick because he was a first-round value that slid.

I could just as easily say that this staff hasn't shown that it can evaluate nose tackles, but I think that Dan Williams was the #1 player on their 250 board.

When you miss so completely on four or five ILB types, it might mean that you have a problem.

Look at the tape--where does Daryl Washington make plays against good teams? There are no New Mexicos or UNLVs in the NFL. Daryl Washington = Raynoch Thompson.

K9 I couldnt agree more!!! Ive watched every TCU game for 2 years here in Dallas. The kid has skills & athleticism but will absolutely get destroyed at the point of attack. All the Dansby bashers will beg to have him back after this selection.

 

[Zeno]

I could just as easily say that this staff hasn't shown that it can evaluate nose tackles, but I think that Dan Williams was the #1 player on their 250 board.

I think Somers said he was #11 on their board.

 

[Shane]

All the crow I can handle. They obviously wanted him!

 

[Dr. Jones]

I am happy with this pick.

 

[Shogun]

I don't see how the selections of Lance Mitchell and Buster, the only two legit inside lniebackers that the Cardinals have drafted recently, is an indictment on Daryl Washington.

 

[ajcardfan]

K9 I couldnt agree more!!! Ive watched every TCU game for 2 years here in Dallas. The kid has skills & athleticism but will absolutely get destroyed at the point of attack. All the Dansby bashers will beg to have him back after this selection.

Unlike Dansby, he won't be playing obvious run downs this year. At least, i think he won't. It's going to be Lenon on run downs, Washington on pass.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Inside linebackers. DJ said it all with the selections that they've made so far. Dansby was an easy pick because he was a first-round value that slid.

I could just as easily say that this staff hasn't shown that it can evaluate nose tackles, but I think that Dan Williams was the #1 player on their 250 board.

When you miss so completely on four or five ILB types, it might mean that you have a problem.

Look at the tape--where does Daryl Washington make plays against good teams? There are no New Mexicos or UNLVs in the NFL. Daryl Washington = Raynoch Thompson.

Always appreciate your point of view.

But... I have to choose, at this point, between your assessment and Steve Keim's and the other scouts who spend 200 days a year on the road eating cheap diner food between attending practices, games, interviewing and reviewing tape.

Until proven wrong, I'll stand with the Pros not the Joes!

 

[Buckybird]

Unlike Dansby, he won't be playing obvious run downs this year. At least, i think he won't. It's going to be Lenon on run downs, Washington on pass.

A complete reach to move up 11 spots & give up a 3rd Rd pick!!! People will be begging we paid #58 his $$$

Let me predict this:

Brandon Spikes will be a much better NFL LB'er than Daryl Washington even though they play 2 differant positions.

Pro Bowls: Spikes-5
Washington-0

 

[Zeno]

Always appreciate your point of view.

But... I have to choose, at this point, between your assessment and Steve Keim's and the other scouts who spend 200 days a year on the road eating cheap diner food between attending practices, games, interviewing and reviewing tape.

Until proven wrong, I'll stand with the Pros not the Joes!

Because they never miss(Buster Davis)? there is no reason to ever doubt them? Come on he has every right to question the pick just like you have every right to like it.

 

[football karma]

No he wasn't. He was a WILB type. 6'5", 228 out of Louisville. 4.59 40.

not size or build -- its what he did in college, which was all forward

Washington did many, many different things in the TCU defense - lots of dropping and covering

 

[Garthshort]

One of the guru's (not sure if it was NFL or ESPN), said that Washington is a four down LB. He can supposedly play the run and pass, and also ST's. Do wish he'll get closer to 240, than 230. And someone said he had a better year than Jerry Hughes. Team knows a LOT more than I do, so I'm happy with the pick.

 

[Duckjake]

One of the guru's (not sure if it was NFL or ESPN), said that Washington is a four down LB. He can supposedly play the run and pass, and also ST's. Do wish he'll get closer to 240, than 230. And someone said he had a better year than Jerry Hughes. Team knows a LOT more than I do, so I'm happy with the pick.

I've figured out why Washington was so valuable to the Cardinals. Not only can he play the WILB on passing downs but if Wilson gets hurt he can fill in at Adrian's hybrid S/LB position.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

posted by darren urban on April 23, 2010 – 4:18 pm

The Cards traded one of their third-round picks to move up 11 picks in the second round to take TCU LB Daryl Washington, the guy they might’ve taken in the first round had Dan Williams not been there. Not a huge surprise. They have one third-round pick left, the one they got from the Ravens. Washington needs to add some weight, but he was clearly a guy the Cards wanted to get to replace Karlos Dansby at weakside inside linebacker.

UPDATE: Coach Ken Whisenhunt said Washington was the 12th-rated player on the Cards’ board (one behind Williams) and was considered with the first round pick. GM Rod Graves said there wasn’t much debate on trading the third-round pick because it was “the right decision.” Whisenhunt said after the pick, one NFC team called to say it was going to take Washington “a couple of picks later.” Whiz didn’t specifically name the team.