Charlie Casserly just mentioned the possibity of the Cards getting Manning

[Vermont Maverick]

I agree with every word you said... except I wouldnt quite call it "likely".

He will definitely have more than his fair share of pursuers. Washington will throw the bank at him but hopefully he will avoid that train wreck.

And as for the fears many are expressing of Mannings neck. Yes, its a concern but every report says his injury is one guys recover from. And really, would it be any more worrisome than Kolb's head?

Great point about Kolb (not to mention the question about his ability). An organizational question is: If Manning were available, would the organization be to proud to admit that maybe Kolb was a mistake.

The Redskins: I don't see Manning signing with a rival of Eli's Giants. They are too close knit to be battling for the same divisional crown.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

When it comes to a superstar, location has very little to do with endorsement deals. And think about it. If he went to NY, they don't even have a domed stadium. He'd freeze his kiester off.

Are you serious? It has everything to do with it.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

This.

I brought this up a month ago by the way. Heres what I see happenign from here.

March 8th will come and the reports will be that Peyton is healthy and that they are going to release Peyton "so he can sign on with another team" thus doign right by a guy who has meant so much to that franchise.

There is NO WAY they are paying 28 million for 1 year of Peyton let alone to have him apprentice Luck for one year. That makes no sense for all parties involved. If you heard Luck after the Fiesta Bowl, he is not going to be happy backing up anybody and rightfully so being he is the best QB prospect in a decade and guys like Cam, Matt Ryan, and Joe Flacco have all come in and had success right away.

On the same side, Peyton has an ego too and there is no way he is going to be a lame duck QB in the twilight of his career with 4 or 5 good years left. He will want to go to another team ASAP and get started on the last run of his career.

And why not Arizona? We know Fitz is going to recruit him. Its an offensive firendly system. And what I think is most important....of all the teams maybe needing a QB we are the only one that plays indoors. Thats a HUGE factor for a guy like Peyton IMO as I dont see him fighting the winds of New York, or the rain in Miami the last part of his career.

And its all going to be his decision. Irsay has already said they WONT trade him and no team will trade for him with the uncertainty of his neck and that upcomign cap hit. The Colts can't pay him that money (trust me they won't) and it doesnt make sense for the development of Luck anyway. They are obviously rebuilding and Peyton likely wants no part of that. He will be released and it will be spun as "the right thing to do" for Peyton.

From the Cardinals side, if hes healthy (and thats the big unknown factor of course) its a no brainer. This team CAN make a Super Bowl run with the pieces currently in place and the division we play in. This move makes us the auto favorites in the NFCW, and maybe the NFC if the defensive improvement isn't a mirage. They can cut Kolb with little impact and get the vet guy everyone wants for 4-5 year ala Kurt Warner.

I see alot of Cardinal fans being their usual masochistic selves about this subject and getting upset its even a discussion so they dont get their hopes up. I see it being very legitimate and maybe even likely when you look at the other scenarios .

I'm drinking the kool aid. It's a no brainer to go after him hard if he hits FA.

 

[joko4]

The Cardinals or Payton Manning are just 1 Grimm coached play away from destroying a team and a HOF player, and cap hell. No thanks.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I agree also. No way the Colts will keep both Manning and Luck, IMO. Irsay can't/won't tie up +-$50 million in one position next season.

I think Manning will be released and I don't see him signing with the Dolphins or Redskins. I would have said the Jets because Eli is in NY, but I can't see Manning joining the Rex Ryan Circus now. The Cards would seem a logical choice, or at least as logical as any other team.

Manning seems like the type of player who will keep playing until they rip the jersey off his back, unlike Warner. I can see a team getting 2-3 more good years out of Manning, minimum.

Curious... why wouldn't Manning join the Fins? Their defense was better than ours in just about evey key category. Their offense is just about equal to ours in terms of stats. They don't have Fitz of course, but Marshall is no slouch. Reggie Bush ran for over 1,000 yards and also caught 43 passes... Manning would love to have that type of dual threat again! And in terms of $$ - is it really that hard to see the Fins throwing more money at Manning than the Cards??

 

[SeattleCard]

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[Arizona's Finest]

Curious... why wouldn't Manning join the Fins? Their defense was better than ours in just about evey key category. Their offense is just about equal to ours in terms of stats. They don't have Fitz of course, but Marshall is no slouch. Reggie Bush ran for over 1,000 yards and also caught 43 passes... Manning would love to have that type of dual threat again! And in terms of $$ - is it really that hard to see the Fins throwing more money at Manning than the Cards??

Well they dont have a HC to start. Their owner is a total goofball. The GM is likely on his way out. The consenus aorund the league is this franchise can't get out of its own way and has little to no direction. They play in a crap stadium with little support. He would have to play against the Pats and Jets every year in COLD temps come November.

Other then that they are right on par with the Cardinals.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

Well they dont have a HC to start. Their owner is a total goofball. The GM is likely on his way out. The consenus aorund the league is this franchise can't get out of its own way and has little to no direction. They play in a crap stadium with little support. He would have to play against the Pats and Jets every year in COLD temps come November.

Other then that they are right on par with the Cardinals.

I've been with ya all the way as far as Manning leaving, and the Cards being in the picture.

But the Dolphins also make sense. They will soon have a head coach (it could be Fisher, though the last I heard he was leaning toward St. Louis), I'm hesitant to compare owners - you know, the glass house thing. I think playing the Pats twice a year is a bonus for Miami. You know Peyton would want to beat them. Though Miami isn't indoors, it is warm.

 

[john h]

Not gonna happen...bank on it!!!

The uncertainty if Manning will ever play again & Mr B's luv for his $$$

To risk $28 mil a year on a QB with a recent neck fusion would be insane both for Peyton and the Cards. As I have said the chances of this going down are about as likely as man walking on the sun.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Are you serious? It has everything to do with it.

maybe with superstars who crave that attention and haven't really established themselves, but Manning isn't that... he's a global icon. Dude could go to Jacksonville and still be one of the top 3 endorsement getters in the league.

Barkley proved that Phoenix isn't a deterrent back in the 90's. The guy was THE biggest star in sports (after Jordan retired) seemingly for 3 years once he got to the Suns.

Peyton, in a dome, with Fitz, on natural grass, with an offense that loves to wing the ball around the field really isn't all that far fetched when you look at it on it's face.

Now would he come to an organization run by the Bidwills? That's another story.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

To risk $28 mil a year on a QB with a recent neck fusion would be insane both for Peyton and the Cards. As I have said the chances of this going down are about as likely as man walking on the sun.

John-

What we are saying is that the Colts will not pick up the 28M, and he will be a free agent. At that point, any team would be free to negotaite a deal (with no picks involved either).

And the price would not be 28M. Manning would understand that - he's not stupid.

 

[Renz]

Peyton, in a dome, with Fitz, on natural grass, with an offense that loves to wing the ball around the field really isn't all that far-fetched when you look at it on it's face.

Now would he come to an organization run by the Bidwills? That's another story.

That's all I'm saying. If the Colts draft Luck and release Manning (likely, IMO), then it makes enough sense from both Manning's and the Cardinals' perspectives to, at the very least, not be dismissed out-of-hand.

Now, would there be mutual interest between Manning and the Cards? That's what we don't know yet. If there is, then I could see it happening.

 

[Mulli]

That's all I'm saying. If the Colts draft Luck and release Manning (likely, IMO), then it makes enough sense from both Manning's and the Cardinals' perspectives to, at the very least, not be dismissed out-of-hand.

Now, would there be mutual interest between Manning and the Cards? That's what we don't know yet. If there is, then I could see it happening.

Do you mean release Manning and then draft Luck?

 

[Renz]

Do you mean release Manning and then draft Luck?

Yes. I think the Colts will ask Manning to take a pay cut. He'll refuse and be released, saving the Irsays $28 million. Then the Colts draft Luck.

 

[Mulli]

Yes. I think the Colts will ask Manning to take a pay cut. He'll refuse and be released, saving the Irsays $28 million. Then the Colts draft Luck.

Does he get the $28 million if not released on March 8?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Does he get the $28 million if not released on March 8?

I believe that's the deal...

 

[oaken1]

Does he get the $28 million if not released on March 8?

The way the deals are usually set up he would have to be released before midnight eastern time on the 7th......1201am March 8th if he is still on the roster he gets the bonus.

 

[Absolute Zero]

No one with a neck injury is going to want to come here and play behind this "run for your life" O line.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

maybe with superstars who crave that attention and haven't really established themselves, but Manning isn't that... he's a global icon. Dude could go to Jacksonville and still be one of the top 3 endorsement getters in the league.

Barkley proved that Phoenix isn't a deterrent back in the 90's. The guy was THE biggest star in sports (after Jordan retired) seemingly for 3 years once he got to the Suns.

Peyton, in a dome, with Fitz, on natural grass, with an offense that loves to wing the ball around the field really isn't all that far fetched when you look at it on it's face.

Now would he come to an organization run by the Bidwills? That's another story.

Can't see that as a deal breaker today.

Bidwill cheques don't bounce and they leave football decisions to those hired to do so.

 

[football karma]

Are you serious? It has everything to do with it.

Indy is hardly a media center, yet Peyton did okay there

NY would have more local stuff, no quesiton

but Peyton has made the move to national figure already

 

[D-Dogg]

We are getting Manning.

Shane is perpetually wrong, so this is a done deal. Welcome to AZ Peyton!

 

[WisconsinCard]

Archie Manning was on with Van Pelt today and he said the surgury was a success, all they are wating for is the nerves to recover, so he can start getting the strength in his neck back. I have had 2 of these surguries myself in the last 4 years and it wont take a year for him to get back to 100%, and no I dont have 300 pound tackles chasing me, but I have been married for 25 years...

 

[Azlen]

I still want to know why Casserly mentioned the Cardinals and not a single other team. Is it purely just speculation on his part and if so why? I have no idea what would cause him to mention only the Cards. I can't see Manning mentioning the Cards as his first choice and I can't see the Cards saying that they were interested in Manning. I'm still very perplexed on why he said what he said.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I still want to know why Casserly mentioned the Cardinals and not a single other team. Is it purely just speculation on his part and if so why? I have no idea what would cause him to mention only the Cards. I can't see Manning mentioning the Cards as his first choice and I can't see the Cards saying that they were interested in Manning. I'm still very perplexed on why he said what he said.

Well he did say they (the Cards) were a darkhorse. So my guess is he is just speculating where he might end up. Interesting though that he did only mention AZ as a destination.

 

[Covert Rain]

These guys talk to players, agents, coaches "off the record" all the time. There is no way guys like Charlie get their inside information without it. Just like any other source, these guys usually get information and talk about it in a round about way so they don't burn a bridge.

Not saying that is what happened here but I would not be surprised if that is why AZ was mentioned.