Chiefs at Cardinals gameday thread 9-11-22

[THESMEL]

and ertz played. so no, top three targets not out today.

He's a plodder who is great at moving a pile, good at blitz pickup and a good receiver. 2.5 is worse than usual, but he averaged less than 4 yards a carry last season. Expecting him to be a bellcow was sheer stupidity from stupid keim. PS, I think keim is stupid.

BS we went 3 and out passing with only kyler running in broken plays, finally ran the damn ball a little on the 1st scoring drive - same as we have since whisrnhunt came here 14 years ago - it’s fundamentally flawed play calling - to shove that on Connor is plain ignorant and stupid too!

I say it constantly for 15 years and folks call me a so and so- you can not pass 3-1 or 4- 0 early - run stats sometimes look better balanced in the final box score. Cause they run after the game is determined. Same in playoff game last year - can not give opponents your play book - then ask kyler to outperform them every stinking drive.

st and defense are taxed by bs offense less then 2 minute 3 and drives - just look at that alone and see the problem .

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Defense is bad but i dont think it will be THIS bad. Murphy played sick and was in and out of game, no JJ, no hamilton, no mullen, theyll clean some stuff up and maybe we can hope for average D. Simmons first game with mic too….

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[GatorAZ]

Was dumb the second they signed.

Didn’t hate the the idea of having him back but I want to know how close another team came to offering $31m.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Only by Cardinal fans lol be serious our best WR is out and KK decided to feature a game plan for Dortch lol

Actually, the Dortch part worked, and it was also Dortch that decided that by his play... just wished our TEs were more involved, but nothing derails an offense more than a defense which cannot get the opposing offense off the field and prevent them from scoring

 

[nashman]

Actually, the Dortch part worked, and it was also Dortch that decided that by his play... just wished our TEs were more involved, but nothing derails an offense more than a defense which cannot get the opposing offense off the field and prevent them from scoring

While I don’t agree entirely, the offense needs to be designed better to feature Hollywood, Ertz, Conner anything else with the blah play calling and you see what happens. Where is the moving the pocket, some rollouts, some crossing patterns, some misdirection anything something different than just preseason looking play calling that we saw for most of the game. Started mixing it up late and moved the ball much more effectively. Just don’t understand the game plan or lack thereof had plenty of time to prepare for this game and once again this team looked unprepared!

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

That’s still not enough I need over 53

Well you got it lol

 

[Stout]

Yup

I was so high on Simmons

+1 I was so wrong on him. What a terrible choice. Oh Wirfs, wish we'd taken you.

 

[Stout]

FOOD FIGHT!!!!

Ouchie's a zit, get it?

 

[Stout]

While I don’t agree entirely, the offense needs to be designed better to feature Hollywood, Ertz, Conner anything else with the blah play calling and you see what happens. Where is the moving the pocket, some rollouts, some crossing patterns, some misdirection anything something different than just preseason looking play calling that we saw for most of the game. Started mixing it up late and moved the ball much more effectively. Just don’t understand the game plan or lack thereof had plenty of time to prepare for this game and once again this team looked unprepared!

So, it wasn't at all Kyler's fault, but Kliffy's fault? Wow. You do realize that it was likely more that the Chiefs played more prevent than anything changing in the play calling, right? There's a reason they call it garbage time scoring.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

37-7 with 4 minutes left in the 3rd Q

Lol at this organization

What a joke

We lost by the largest margin yesterday and that's with them playing prevent in the 4th Q so we could score some points and run the clock

 

[DaHilg]

+1 I was so wrong on him. What a terrible choice. Oh Wirfs, wish we'd taken you.

Same.. when the we came to pick and he was still available, I wanted Ceedee at that pick but said to myself - but you can’t not take Simmons being he slipped to this pick… smh

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Patrick Mahomes has sixth career game with five touchdown passes​

On Sunday at Arizona, Mahomes threw five touchdown passes. It was the sixth game of his career with five touchdown passes.

Mahomes was spectacular on Sunday, despite not having Tyreek Hill. Don’t be surprised if it continues all year long.

 

[THESMEL]

It wasn’t Simmons - with or without Simmons we go 3 and out

 

[Jetstream Green]

We lost because we could get no pressure from the interior of our DL and we could not block with the interior of our OL. This is why the game looked eerily similar to that Ram debacle. It is so obvious to see at the start of every play that some look past and concentrate on everything past the initial line of scrimmage. The trenches, right at the core, will dismantle any plan our coaches will come up with... this is on Keim for not seeing this, or rather not fixing this

 

[Chopper0080]

So, it wasn't at all Kyler's fault, but Kliffy's fault? Wow. You do realize that it was likely more that the Chiefs played more prevent than anything changing in the play calling, right? There's a reason they call it garbage time scoring.

Of course it is. Why would we hold a 250 mil QB accountable?

 

[Ronin]

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[DaHilg]

We lost because we could get no pressure from the interior of our DL and we could not block with the interior of our OL. This is why the game looked eerily similar to that Ram debacle. It is so obvious to see at the start of every play that some look past and concentrate on everything past the initial line of scrimmage. The trenches, right at the core, will dismantle any plan our coaches will come up with... this is on Keim for not seeing this, or rather not fixing this

Completely .. as I stated pre-game interior line on the Oline was where I said the game would be decided

 

[Stout]

Completely .. as I stated pre-game interior line on the Oline was where I said the game would be decided

This is the same refrain as last season. While agree the OL needs to be a lot better, I also think KM needs to handle it a looot better. He wasn't good spotting the open man or going through his progressions. He appeared skittish and indecisive. I will give him credit in not running out of bounds for losses and not simply turtling, in the game film I saw of him (didn't get the first drive or a lot of the end of the game on TV). Still, he needs to vastly improve to lead us where we need to go, let alone to be a star top-5 QB. He did nothing to elevate the team yesterday.

 

[DaHilg]

This is the same refrain as last season. While agree the OL needs to be a lot better, I also think KM needs to handle it a looot better. He wasn't good spotting the open man or going through his progressions. He appeared skittish and indecisive. I will give him credit in not running out of bounds for losses and not simply turtling, in the game film I saw of him (didn't get the first drive or a lot of the end of the game on TV). Still, he needs to vastly improve to lead us where we need to go, let alone to be a star top-5 QB. He did nothing to elevate the team yesterday.

Please name one QB ever that is successfully when consistent interior pressure. Please Stout, I’ll be waiting. It’s DE/OLB pressure that requires/allows the opportunity for a QB to step up into the pocket. I love the calls for a QB.. a tiny QB to step up in the pocket with Harlow vs the the beast that is Chris Jones letting him know he’s his daddy all game long. I’m sure that doesn’t rattle a QBs confidence.

 

[Stout]

Please name one QB ever that is successfully when consistent interior pressure. Please Stout, I’ll be waiting. It’s DE/OLB pressure that requires/allows the opportunity for a QB to step up into the pocket. I love the calls for a QB.. a tiny QB to step up in the pocket with Harlow vs the the beast that is Chris Jones letting him know he’s his daddy all game long. I’m sure that doesn’t rattle a QBs confidence.

KM had ample opportunity to affect this game. You act as if he had significant interior pressure on every drop back, which is a gross exaggeration. Are you going to tell the board that, until KM gets immaculate protection a majority of the time he can never be held to account for not playing well? Because you're certainly not going to say he played well.

 

[UncleChris]

What a day..... out of all the NFC playoff teams from last year, only the Eagles and the Bucs won game one this year.....

 

[BritCard]

Please name one QB ever that is successfully when consistent interior pressure. Please Stout, I’ll be waiting. It’s DE/OLB pressure that requires/allows the opportunity for a QB to step up into the pocket. I love the calls for a QB.. a tiny QB to step up in the pocket with Harlow vs the the beast that is Chris Jones letting him know he’s his daddy all game long. I’m sure that doesn’t rattle a QBs confidence.

He didn't have consistent interior pressure. He was just bad.

 

[BritCard]

What a day..... out of all the NFC playoff teams from last year, only the Eagles and the Bucs won game one this year.....

We sucked yesterday, but on the plus side all our division rivals sucked and most of the apparent NFC contenders sucked. So there is that.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Please name one QB ever that is successfully when consistent interior pressure. Please Stout, I’ll be waiting. It’s DE/OLB pressure that requires/allows the opportunity for a QB to step up into the pocket. I love the calls for a QB.. a tiny QB to step up in the pocket with Harlow vs the the beast that is Chris Jones letting him know he’s his daddy all game long. I’m sure that doesn’t rattle a QBs confidence.

Maybe don't draft a tiny QB?

Maybe have a coaching staff that can make adjustments?