CNNSI says Cards / Green close

[football karma]

Don Banks of CNNSI provides some great color on the Cardinals pursuit of Dennis Green and basically predicts he will shortly be the guy:



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/01/06/cards.green/index.html

 

[Jttsaz]

wow...looks like it might get done!

 

[CaptTurbo]

In the back of my mind I say he had a great record and this could be good. But I cant shake off how he wants the power and just wants his foot in the door to start getting it and all his legal problems.

Just not our kinda guy. The anti-mac. The cards have to get a guy in the middle. They are always getting a hanson brother or his opposite maryln manson.

 

[imaCafan]

If they want Green, they better go after him hard. This is the headline at sportsline.com:

Green apparent front-runner to be Raiders coach.

<---------Can you tell my choice???

 

[MrY]

I haven't really liked a Cardinal coach since Coryell, (did have a soft spot for Stallings) but damn I sure would like for Green to get the job and succeed. I had respect for Green at first, then with the whole personal sexual problems and then the Carter-Moss business and the way the team disintegrated, I'm just really torn as to whether or not to believe in the guy.

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by swd1974
But I cant shake off how he wants the power and just wants his foot in the door to start getting it

Wow, you read minds?

 

[Red Hawk]

Originally posted by swd1974

Just not our kinda guy. The anti-mac.

The anti-mac is our kinda guy

 

[MrY]

Originally posted by swd1974
In the back of my mind I say he had a great record and this could be good. But I cant shake off how he wants the power and just wants his foot in the door to start getting it and all his legal problems.

It would seem that after the Buddy Ryan debacle, Rod Graves is there in the front office to prevent the power from being usurped by a Coach

 

[ajcardfan]

First of all, it's not over till it's over. Anything could happen still.

Second of all, why is everyone all of the sudden so scared by Green's legal issues (pretty minor, he never did prison time)? How many times have people posted that they want winners, not choirboys? Here's a coach who's gotten it done for TEN seasons. Winning 16 more games in that span than the Cardinals have won in their entire existence in Arizona! We'd have to go stinking undefeated next season just to catch up, and we'd still be six full years behind that pace! And, now, he has to much of an edge to him for our franchise????

I don't get it. I'm happy with any of the four. I'd be least excited by Johnson, but I'd be willing to give them all a chance. There's not a candidate out there without warts.

 

[Goldfield]

Mainly I wanna guy who is an experienced head coach, that has had sucess before. Be it Fassel or Green I will be happy.


But I have wanted Green for some reason. I allways liked how his team played in Min.


If we got Green I would be THRILLED.

 

[JeffGollin]

The CNNSI report says that:
"Cardinals vice presidents Michael Bidwill and Rod Graves on Tuesday morning flew to San Diego, where Green lives, to interview him a second time and allow both sides to get more comfortable with one another..."

That sure isn't letting any grass grow under the feet of Cardinal management and is a very hopeful sign.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by MrY
It would seem that after the Buddy Ryan debacle, Rod Graves is there in the front office to prevent the power from being usurped by a Coach

You might want to ask Jeff Diamond that. He was the Vice President of Football Operations (just like Graves is now, for the Cards) until Green managed to run him out, in a power struggle, and add his title to that of head coach.

 

[CardinalChris]

Often times when you see a franchise that simply can’t win it takes two sets of coaches. One to bring respectability, another to win a championship. Dungy shape Tampa, but Gruden got the ring. Vermeil created the Rams offense, but Martz won the ring. Often coaches can only bring a team so far before their message gets old in the locker room and he loses his team. That’s why new blood is the wave of the NFL coaches these days. Green is the perfect ting for this organization…..he will help us win. Maybe one day we’ll have to replace him with a coach to go even further, but right now I’d settle for winning, and winning consistently.

This shows Arizona is serious about winning, especially since I can assure you Green will make a whole heck of a lot more than recent Cardinal Coaches.

 

[CardinalChris]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr
You might want to ask Jeff Diamond that. He was the Vice President of Football Operations (just like Graves is now, for the Cards) until Green managed to run him out, in a power struggle, and add his title to that of head coach.

LEague wide coaches are realizing Gm/HC is the death touch. Can't be done by one man. Holgren and Wannstadt show a willingness to remove that responsibility to keep their job.

 

[danny l]

Correction CardinaL Chris, Vermeil WAS the coach of the Rams when they won the Superbowl. Martz was the OC.

 

[red desert]

Originally posted by swd1974
Just not our kinda guy. The anti-mac.

Speak for yourself. The ante-mac sounds pretty good to me.

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by CardinalChris
LEague wide coaches are realizing Gm/HC is the death touch. Can't be done by one man. Holgren and Wannstadt show a willingness to remove that responsibility to keep their job.

No, Tango's right. Green's history is a constant struggle for power and he butted heads with almost every exec he worked with Min. It will be very interesting to see how it plays out in AZ, given how many Bidwills reside inside the hierarchy of the organization. One thing is for sure. Once Green is hired the clock begins to tick on Rod Graves. Don't believe the lines Green gave at the press conference. He wants power and will have little patience (key word) for the absurd and plodding nature of the personnel moves made by this dolt. That being said, great hire. Exactly what this organization needs: A qualified head coach who will hire quality assistants and butt out execs, who in this case, have little clue as to what they're doing. No other candidate brings that to the table.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

From ESPN - says Rod and Mikey asked the "tough" questions, maybe we will get Green, but Fassal has his shot Thursday also...

Tuesday, January 6, 2004




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By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
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For the second time in less than a week, the Arizona Cardinals have interviewed Dennis Green about the team's head coach vacancy, ESPN.com has learned.


Cardinals officials traveled to the West Coast for the session and, although the club has said it plans second interviews with all four identified candidates, Green is the first to get an encore audience. The other candidates are former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel -- a onetime Cardinals offensive coordinator -- and current NFL defensive coordinators Jim Johnson of Philadelphia and Romeo Crennel of New England.


Johnson and Crennel will not be available again while their teams are in the playoffs.


Vice president Michael Bidwill, the son of owner Bill Bidwill, indicated Monday that the successor to Dave McGinnis will come from that quartet. He said the job might be offered before all four candidates have a second interview.


Green first huddled Dec. 31 with members of the Bidwill family and vice president of football operations Rod Graves. That interview took place at the Cardinals' complex. League sources have suggested that Green, 54, is the coach most coveted by the long-suffering organization.


Sources said that during the Tuesday interview, the Cardinals asked Green what they termed the "tough questions," including queries about past off-field incidents. Green is said to have been candid and, for the second time, very impressive in expressing to the Arizona officials his on-field and personnel philosophies.


Green remains a candidate with the Oakland Raiders and the Washington Redskins, as well, and is almost certain to return to the NFL after a two-year hiatus. He compiled a record of 101-70 during 10 seasons with the Vikings and went to the playoffs in eight of those campaigns. He currently serves as an ESPN studio analyst.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by CardinalChris
LEague wide coaches are realizing Gm/HC is the death touch. Can't be done by one man. Holgren and Wannstadt show a willingness to remove that responsibility to keep their job.

Ahhh yess....and in 1998 when it happened in Minnesota, Mr. Genius Green obviously felt differently about that.

 

[40yearfan]

While Green has expressed much interest in both the Washington and Oakland jobs, sources say he feels drawn to the challenge of building a winner for the Cardinals, who have languished in the bottom third of the NFL pecking order for most of the past three decades.

Challenged to build a winner? My kind of guy!!!

 

[TheCardFan]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr
You might want to ask Jeff Diamond that. He was the Vice President of Football Operations (just like Graves is now, for the Cards) until Green managed to run him out, in a power struggle, and add his title to that of head coach.

How many times are you going to toot this horn? Who really cares if Denny Green forced out Diamond? Successful people get power and in the NFL GM and Head Coach was the thing to do a few years back. You don't see that much anymore and in fact, like in Seattle, it can be taken back.

No big deal.

 

[arthurracoon]

Great...You can tell by my sig who I want as the next HC!

 

[TheCardFan]

Originally posted by RLakin
No, Tango's right. Green's history is a constant struggle for power and he butted heads with almost every exec he worked with Min. It will be very interesting to see how it plays out in AZ, given how many Bidwills reside inside the hierarchy of the organization.

Give me 8 winning season out of 10 and 4 or so division championships and I will worry about the "struggle for power" then.

 

[Espo]

bottom line is a coach has to come in here and prove himself. i dont know that green can do it but he sounds like a guy who is willing to take this challenge and not bail on it. he sounds like he has a true desire to be here and not as a stepping stone to another job.

 

[RLakin]

Originally posted by TheCardFan
Give me 8 winning season out of 10 and 4 or so division championships and I will worry about the "struggle for power" then.

No, it'll happen almost immediately. I'm not exaggerating about the Graves stuff at all. When (or if) Green is hired, Rod Graves has a year left. No more, no less. When Green took over in Minnesota (and this is when he had no NFL head coaching experience), he immediately moved out franchise icons like Chris Doleman and the teams starting quarterback, Rich Gannon.
You also have to understand the context of that situation in 1998. Diamond was a career employee and lifetime Vikings fans coming off of a 15-1 season and Sporting News "Executive of Year" honors.
In short, whatever Green says is irrelevant. Actions speak louder than words and if you research this guys background you would realize that there are two constants when it comes to Denny Green: Winning and a lot of unemployed team executives. I say that's a good thing. Tango may disagree. But make no mistake about it, the record is out there regardless of what current NFL trends or what Denny Green, himself, may say.