Danny Sullivan

[AsUdUdE]

He makes me soo sick.. I mean seriously watching this guy play QB, is about as painful of expierance of anything I have seen with ASU football...

Something has to change... He is KILLING our season..

 

[TJ]

The warning signs were all there last season. Even when he played mop up duty against 3rd stringers, his numbers and decision making were abysmal. Didnt understand the decision at the beginning but it is costing you guys big time and will be a problem until someone else is in place.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

How can a 5th year senior know so little about where to throw the ball?

 

[AsUdUdE]

Going into the game, Sulivan was ranked #112 out of 116 starting QBs in the nation in Completion percentage...

His QB rating was #105... His YPA is ludicrisly LOW, 5.8 which he BROKE THREW and landed in the top 100 at #99.. here is the catch- he has less attempts than most around him...

The bottom line is there are over 100 college QBs in the nation that are better than Sully...

Our defense is solid, but our offense (and obviously it is not all on Sullivan, but he is the most to blame) is enept...

It is gross watching this guy.. I don't know that I can watch this team until Sully gets benched...

 

[devilalum]

How can a 5th year senior know so little about where to throw the ball?

And the guy is the least athletic individual on the field. He moves like his shoes are made from cement.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Just got back from the game... Wow. That had to be one of the most pathetic college football experiences I have ever had! Half-full stadium on a Saturday afternoon?? WTF is up with that??
Sullivan is beyond bad... whatever that is, he's it. Can't believe Erickson let him start the 2nd half.
McGahee is incredible. Great player.
Burfict seemed to be slowed up with some sort of nagging injury. Overall, the defense sucked!
This is going to be a LONG season for the Devils...

 

[Nasser22]

The defense was fine...gave up 7 points the entire 2nd half, many points coming from a short field due to our terrible offense or bad calls. They did give up a couple big plays though.

I was considering picking a fight with Sullivan just to get him suspended. Only way Erickson wouldn't have him starting. Can't believe he didn't put Osweiller in at all..

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Scott Bordow gets it.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/145356

 

[Zeno]

Scott Bordow gets it.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/145356

So does Bickley...

Bickley: Sullivan show should be over

Erickson was most angry at the collective lack of passion, and that's the least of Sullivan's problems. He is determined, rugged and burning with desire to succeed. He's just limited. He's also the quarterback, meaning he's going to take the most heat when things go wrong.

Some of it is deserved. Though Sullivan isn't bad, turnover prone or susceptible to brain cramps, he doesn't make the plays that seem to gush from great quarterbacks. Against the Beavers, he had no trouble finding Chris McGaha in the slot and hitting him in stride. But he missed an easy screen pass that would've been a big gain. He spotted a wide-open Kerry Taylor streaking downfield on a busted play but missed him badly.

When asked to evaluate his own performance, said Sullivan: "It went pretty well." He will not find many people who share that assessment.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2009/10/03/20091003spt-bickleyasu.html#

 

[ajcardfan]

If a change is going to be made, Washington St. is the team to do it against.

 

[PoolBoy]

Sullivan said it went pretty well??!?!?!?!!? what is he smoking, i'll head over to his place and get some of it. Brock Time.

 

[HooverDam]

If a change is going to be made, Washington St. is the team to do it against.

Sadly Im worried the Coaching staff may think the opposite thing. Theyll think "Well Wazzu is bad, so Danny can have a big game against them and get on track and maybe do well the rest of the season." Which of course is silly since ASU hasn't faced a good or even above average defense yet and Sullivan is struggling.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Well, Sullilvan is getting the start at Wazzu on Saturday. Now while it's obvious Sullivan is awful, the team has a lot of other issues offensively. ASU doesn't have much talent at WR, RB, or OL either.

 

[HooverDam]

ASU doesn't have much talent at WR, RB, or OL either.

Id agree at OL, but I think they have talent (that is raw talent) at RB and WR. McGaha is talented, Bass and Robinson seem talented. Bass did well against OSU, his 'fumble' wasn't actually a fumble, the refs blew that call. But its going to be hard for any RB to have success behind that poor, banged up O-line.

Sullivan completed 55% of his passes against OSU who'll probably end up the 2nd worst team in the Pac 10 against the pass. 55% is a pretty pedestrian number and only one (that I recall) was from a drop, so no one should blame the receivers this time. His passes were completed for an average of 10.56 yards, thats too damned low. All he was able to do was connect on short slants and stuff. Anytime he threw it downfield he was nowhere close, it was awful.

I really dont understand what Erickson is doing at this point. Sullivan will probably look 'good' against WSU (in the same way he looked 'good') against ISU and ASU will win because Wazzu stinks. Then ASU will get steamrolled by Washington and Sullivan will look like trash. Maybe thatll be what it takes for Erickson to make a change.

 

[TucsonDevil]

Well, Sullilvan is getting the start at Wazzu on Saturday. Now while it's obvious Sullivan is awful, the team has a lot of other issues offensively. ASU doesn't have much talent at WR, RB, or OL either.

I don't understand the logic in this decision. I have 'somewhat' seen the reasoning behind it up until this last game. Sullivan is awful.

Is Erickson sticking with Danny in order to keep him off suicide watch? After the way in which he left that press conference on Saturday, maybe the coach thought he was going to hang himself this week.

What a joke this program has become the last few years. That season 2 years ago was smoke and mirrors, and it doesn't seem to be turning anytime soon with the crappy offense led by a crappy quarterback resulting in a lack of enthusiasm from the receivers not named McGahee.

 

[Tyler]

I really think that the team doesnt trust DS. He doesnt seem to have leadership qualities on the field. His demeanor all game long was pathetic. Now I am not saying he isnt a good person, doesnt put his heart into everything, and isnt out their playing to the best of his abilities. He just doesnt have the "it" factor that you need to be a D1 qb. So DE says Brock doesnt look as good as DS in practice, let him start a game and see what he does once he gets into a rythem. DS has had more than enough time to prove himself, and we all know what he has proved. I think the student sections chants of WE WANT BROCK were the loudest thing I heard at the game.

 

[Mainstreet]

I really think that the team doesnt trust DS. He doesnt seem to have leadership qualities on the field. His demeanor all game long was pathetic. Now I am not saying he isnt a good person, doesnt put his heart into everything, and isnt out their playing to the best of his abilities. He just doesnt have the "it" factor that you need to be a D1 qb. So DE says Brock doesnt look as good as DS in practice, let him start a game and see what he does once he gets into a rythem. DS has had more than enough time to prove himself, and we all know what he has proved. I think the student sections chants of WE WANT BROCK were the loudest thing I heard at the game.

IMO, neither QB is fitted well for the spread offense. If Samson Szakacsy could at least throw the ball up field 15-20 yards with his tendinitis I'd give him a try. He would at least make the defenses play honest with his ability to run.

 

[Tyler]

IMO, neither QB is fitted well for the spread offense. If Samson Szakacsy could at least throw the ball up field 15-20 yards with his tendinitis I'd give him a try. He would at least make the defenses play honest with his ability to run.

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I agree 100% with you. It makes you wonder why DE would implement this when he doesnt have the players to run it. Seems like trying to stick a square peg in a round hole.

on a side note, did anyone else see DS keep the ball on the option? That was amuzing, you could tell he was trucking, hes just slow.

 

[Gaddabout]

I agree 100% with you. It makes you wonder why DE would implement this when he doesnt have the players to run it. Seems like trying to stick a square peg in a round hole.

Because it's the Erickson spread, not the modern spread option. Erickson was running this spread 40 years ago, and it was designed for HUGE, TALL QBs who could take a hit.

Over the years he's had all kinds of QBs. At Miami he ran the same spread with Craig Erickson and Gino Toretta, and neither of those guys were going to beat me in a foot race. Maybe Erickson, but it would be close.

On the flip side, he was the genius behind Timm Rosenbach, who was mobile, but nothing like the option guys today. He thought he was Tebow-like, but he usually just wound up with his nose in the ear hole.

Honestly, this version of the spread is older than many of the posters on the board. Erickson more or less stole it from Jack Elway and modified it in his early career to accommodate the special skills of his lightly recruited players. Joe Tiller, and Erickson disciple, took this same principle to Purdue and churned out 8-win years like they were going out of style.

 

[HooverDam]

^Indeed, I get confused when people say ASU needs a super mobile QB, ASU isnt trying to be Oregon. Even 'professionals' say it, I met Rock (or was it Manuch? Who knows) once and he was going on and on before the season about how ASU should start Samson because hes the only mobile QB who could 'run the spread." I just sort of let him talk but people need to remember "the spread"!= "the spread option"

 

[Mainstreet]

ASU's poor offensive line makes a mobile QB a necessity. I think Samson Szakacsy is the only QB that can salvage the season. Opposing defenses will just keep keying in on Danny Sullivan or Brock Osweiler. I don't think Brock has the mobility to avoid the pass rush like Sullivan. If ASU had a good offensive line it might be a different story but they don't have this luxury. WSU may not have a good football team but they are always tough in Pullman. They will have the ASU game circled.

 

[Mathew81]

Brock has pretty good mobility. He put up a bunch of rushing yards in HS and he was also considering going to Gonzaga to play basketball.

Regarding Szakacsy, I don't have any confidence that he's ever going to be the guy. He's been here 3 years and has never been healthy. I've heard that DE was on the radio this morning and said SS is healthy enough to play against WSU but is "far from" 100%.

 

[overseascardfan]

I saw th inteview with Sullivan, and I just felt bad for the guy. He looked like he was going to cry, he is just getting lit up from every angle. He may not be the answer at QB, but this team as a whole is underachieving, the OL is really helping him out any, he may be bad but the line is making him look worse.

 

[Mainstreet]

Brock has pretty good mobility. He put up a bunch of rushing yards in HS and he was also considering going to Gonzaga to play basketball.

Regarding Szakacsy, I don't have any confidence that he's ever going to be the guy. He's been here 3 years and has never been healthy. I've heard that DE was on the radio this morning and said SS is healthy enough to play against WSU but is "far from" 100%.

If Brock can run well out of the pocket he might be the man. However, I've never seen him scramble. ASU needs a QB that can scramble out of the pocket on a pass rush to buy time or able to run it up the middle when receivers are covered. I'd like to see ASU employ a spread offense like Oregon.

 

[HooverDam]

^I wish Samson could be the guy, I was excited and thought he'd have a chance to overtake Danny at some point but I think the injuries are just too much. I doubt at this point he can throw the ball much further than 15-20 yards with much accuracy.

I would be all for a 2 QB system w/ Brock and Samson though.