Deal for PG Not Nearer Than Yesterday

[JCSunsfan]

Ash on 910 just said that the player they are targeting is John Salmons from Philadelphia.

 

[hsandhu]

According to Ash, it's John Salmons.

 

[hcsilla]

right now, they are as follows:

pg:rondo, telfair, ray, tony allen
sgierce, west
sf:szczerbiak, green

Allan Ray is a SG. Tony Allen is a SG too but he can play some point but it's very doubtful that the Suns would trade for him because of hos off-court issues.

Delonte West would be a fantastic addition but I don't think that he will be available without giving up ATL's pick.

 

[sunsfn]

Maybe in your opinion hes a bad defender, but imo hes pretty damn good, not great but hes way better than anyone we currently have playing PG.Not to mention i rather have him for his offensive game, which i think would flourish under D'Antoni.

And i think Jason Williams has something to say about having the worst defense for a PG in the NBA.

Jason Williams is not a good defender for sure, but Arroyo is worse than the guards the suns have.
Nash made a big effort to improve last year and as the games went on even the TNT announcers were saying how he now stays in front of opposing guards most of the time. Nash has improved his defense and so has Barbosa. Barbosa will improve more this year. He has those long arms and is oh so quick, he will be a very good defender soon.

Arroyo is short with short arms, he will forever be like Williams.

 

[Chaplin]

According to Ash, it's John Salmons.

That makes a lot of sense, since Salmons is a swing, not a PG.

 

[sunsfn]

According to Ash, it's John Salmons.

Salmons is a 6' 7" small forward that will earn 2,463 mil this year.??

 

[NastyOne]

If we give up any of our first rounders in 2007 for John Freaking Salmons, then they need to take the GM job away from D'Antoni and find a real GM that knows what the hell hes doing.

The guy can't shoot, averages almost as many turnovers as assist for his career and not a defensive specialist.

Why the hell would they even consider trading for him?

Its not like he has some untapped potential, cause hes like 27 years old.

I rather keep our picks and go into the season with what we have.

Figures, we need a pointguard and yet we're trying to trade for another swingman, but this one can't even shoot.

 

[Tank]

How in the world can Dallas be after free agents (see Wolves article above) when they are far above the cap? Are they hoping to land James for the MLE? That can only be used once every other year, correct?

MLE can be used every year. LLE can only be used every other year. I've also heard that they are trying to work sign and trade deals for other free agents.

 

[Chaplin]

If we give up any of our first rounders in 2007 for John Freaking Salmons, then they need to take the GM job away from D'Antoni and find a real GM that knows what the hell hes doing.

The guy can't shoot, averages almost as many turnovers as assist for his career and not a defensive specialist.

Why the hell would they even consider trading for him?

Its not like he has some untapped potential, cause hes like 27 years old.

I rather keep our picks and go into the season with what we have.

Why don't you wait until some kind of confirmation before jumping off the cliff?

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

MLE can be used every year. LLE can only be used every other year. I've also heard that they are trying to work sign and trade deals for other free agents.

Thanks.

 

[PetryJr]

Salmons is no point guard, but he can handle the ball and is a good all-around player. I think he'd be another great surprise playing in this system.

 

[Joe Mama]

It's John Salmons. He is not really a point guard, but he is a combo guard. He has the size they are looking for as well. Not really a great shooter though.

Joe

 

[nowagimp]

Which of these guys is the best 3 point shooter? I'd predict that's the one D'Antoni goes for!

Delonte West is an excellent shooter. I really liked west coming out of St Joes, he has great shooting mechanics. He shot 49% FG's overall, 38.5% from 3, and 85% free throws last year for the celts while scoring 11ppg, 4.6 asst, 1.87 TO in 34mins/game. Jaric may be the most proven 3pt shooter. I really like West, listed at 6'4", 180lbs and would be happy if the suns could pry him loose with one of the later first round picks(not the atlanta one).

 

[Joe Mama]

I'm sure the Phoenix Suns would like to get West, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

 

[hsandhu]

Salmons is no point guard, but he can handle the ball and is a good all-around player. I think he'd be another great surprise playing in this system.

Agreed, a good pickup. But they still need to get a backup interior defender.

 

[Amare32]

Salmons is a pretty good player

always has big games when replacing iverson over the years

he is more of a scorer than a PG though

 

[nowagimp]

According to Ash, it's John Salmons.

I hope not.

 

[Muggum]

If they have Telfair and Rondo, why would they keep West? 3 PGs?

Although I believe we once had Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, and Sam Cassell on the same team? Or was KJ in the mix? Can't remember, but it was the greatest 3 PG team in history...

 

[Tank]

I like the deal if it is Salmons...

I think he can do good in this system. He can play in the backcourt with Barbosa and guard the bigger guard, and between him, Diaw, and Barbosa on the court, they can take a PG by committee approach when Nash sits.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Salmons is a pretty good player

always has big games when replacing iverson over the years

he is more of a scorer than a PG though

WTF, where is the back up PG???

 

[PetryJr]

In March, while Iverson was out, Salmons started some games at point guard and averaged 10 assists per game over a 3-game stretch. He's not a point guard, but he can pass the ball. His game reminds me of Joe Johnson, with worse outside shooting and better at finishing around the basket.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Not sure why we're after this guy, hopefully we're not giving up too much

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Season statistics & NotesSeason splitsGame-by-game statsBio Printable player file

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2005-06
Statistics PPG7.5 RPG2.70 APG2.7 EFF+ 8.24Position: F
Born: Dec 12, 1979
Height: 6-6 / 1,98
Weight: 207 lbs. / 93,9 kg.
College : Miami (Fla.)

Career Highlights
Set career-highs in 2005-06 in games, games started, field goals made and field goals attempted, free-throws made and attempted, free-throw percentage, offensive, defensive and total rebounds, assists, steals, points and scoring average.
Scored 15-plus points seven times (5-2), including a career-high 23 versus Toronto (3/14/06).
Posted three of his four career double-doubles in 2005-06, including two in as many games at Seattle on 3/16 (12 pts, 10 ast) and at LA Clippers on 3/17 (10 pts, 12 ast).
Attended Plymouth-Whitemarsh High School in Plymouth Meeting, Pa., a Philadelphia suburb. 2005-06 HIGHSCAREER HIGHS Points23 vs. Toronto 03/14/0623 vs. Toronto 03/14/06 Field Goals Made8 2 Times8 4 Times Field Goals Attempted18 @ Golden State 03/19/0618 @ Golden State 03/19/06 Three Point Field Goals Made 2 2 Times5 vs. Dallas 03/22/04 Three Point Field Goals Attempted4 3 Times6 4 Times Free Throws Made9 @ Charlotte 04/19/069 @ Charlotte 04/19/06 Free Throws Attempted10 2 Times10 2 Times Offensive Rebounds6 vs. Phoenix 01/31/066 vs. Phoenix 01/31/06 Defensive Rebounds8 @ Golden State 03/19/069 vs. Washington 04/09/04 Total Rebounds10 vs. Phoenix 01/31/0610 2 Times Assists12 @ L.A. Clippers 03/17/0612 @ L.A. Clippers 03/17/06 Steals5 vs. San Antonio 02/15/065 vs. San Antonio 02/15/06 Blocks2 vs. New York 01/28/063 vs. Charlotte 03/11/05 Minutes Played45 vs. Toronto 03/14/0645 vs. Toronto 03/14/06

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[Zobaczcie suki]

In March, while Iverson was out, Salmons started some games at point guard and averaged 10 assists per game over a 3-game stretch. He's not a point guard, but he can pass the ball. His game reminds me of Joe Johnson, with worse outside shooting and better at finishing around the basket.

Hows his handle??

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

http://76ers.mostvaluablenetwork.com/

Quote:As Sixers guard John Salmons approaches an offseason full of uncertainty, he can look back to his performance over the past season for the reasons things did not go as planned in Philadelphia. Billy King let go veteran influences Aaron McKie, Greg Buckner, and Eric Snow over the past 2 seasons. Suddenly, the Sixers found themselves without a bench. The only capable backup behind Korver, Iguodala, and Iverson was John Salmons. While this presented a great opportunity for him, the pressure of being counted on at 3 positions eventually got to him and wore him down as the season went down the tubes. Being asked to do too much, Salmons never quite settled into a role where he and the team could reach a comfort zone. Now, the best for both sides is to part ways.

Things started off well for Salmons as he shined in preseason play with the team needing his solid play in lieu of injuries to Iverson, Webber, and Dalembert. It looked like John was finally ready to fulfill all the promise that people anticipated of him when he became a Sixer after a stellar career at the University of Miami. However, he was never able to sustain those good stretches over an entire season. Once Iverson returned and found his rhythm, Salmons lost his and struggled to regain it back.

Truth be told, Salmons and Iverson never gelled together on the court. Salmons had his best performances with Iverson on the bench wearing street clothes. Likewise, Iverson struggled with getting the other players involved in the offense. He found a rhythm with the veteran Webber early in the season and then again with Korver as he settled into his role off the bench. Steven Hunter even found some consistency with The Answer when he took starting duties from Dalembert in the second half. But The Answer couldn’t find Salmons as he couldn’t find himself.

With Mo Cheeks laid back style and strategy suggested, very little structure was given to help aid Salmons in discovering his role on the team. Without Iverson in the lineup, Salmons became the freelancing facilitator that worked by itself but never with another ballhandler. The role that Salmons took all season to establish turned out to be nonexistent for this team. Because of the talents of Iverson with the ball in his hands, Salmons was never able to get his hands on his true position. He is a point guard who does not play well off the ball. Unless you move Iverson back off the ball or drastically reduce his minutes, you have no need for a player like Salmons.

So, going into an offseason as a restricted free agent when your roadblock to success is on the trading block leaves us to wonder - is Salmons a viable option to keep in the event that trading Iverson does not yield a dominant ball hog? With Ollie, Louis Williams, and possibly Willie Green to compete for playing time, it probably isn’t a question worth answering. There’s plenty of other teams who have a need for Salmons’ talents and can present him with enough breathing room to operate. Don’t be surprised if he becomes successful with a good team. Good teams have a way of making players look better and bringing the most out of their talents. With Salmons vast potential untapped, he should look to find a place where he can establish himself as another one of the Sixers’ unfortunate mistakes.

 

[az1965]

http://76ers.mostvaluablenetwork.com/

Quote:As Sixers guard John Salmons approaches an offseason full of uncertainty, he can look back to his performance over the past season for the reasons things did not go as planned in Philadelphia. Billy King let go veteran influences Aaron McKie, Greg Buckner, and Eric Snow over the past 2 seasons. Suddenly, the Sixers found themselves without a bench. The only capable backup behind Korver, Iguodala, and Iverson was John Salmons. While this presented a great opportunity for him, the pressure of being counted on at 3 positions eventually got to him and wore him down as the season went down the tubes. Being asked to do too much, Salmons never quite settled into a role where he and the team could reach a comfort zone. Now, the best for both sides is to part ways.

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Don’t be surprised if he becomes successful with a good team. Good teams have a way of making players look better and bringing the most out of their talents. With Salmons vast potential untapped, he should look to find a place where he can establish himself as another one of the Sixers’ unfortunate mistakes.

Hmmm... I don't know much about Salmons, but this sounds encouraging...