Dockett to sign by end of week

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Darnell Dockett, who last week accused Dansby of chasing “the money” rather than “chasing a ring.”

That's EXACTLY what DD is doing...looking for more $$$

unlike Dansby He ISN'T going to get it. LOL
Not one team outside of SF even called him in for a visit. He got flat out rejected by 30 other teams...and bet the house SF isn't offering him anywhere near 2.5 for one year with a possibility of 4. My bet is they offered him 1 mill with an ability to make 1.5 for one year. You don't pay a 34 year old DE coming off ACL anything more than 1 mill on a prove you are healthy AND can produce deal.

I have no prob with any player chasing the $, but don't go calling Dansby out for chasing the money then when your turn comes to bat...you did exactly what you criticized him for doing.

understand now!!?!:mulli:

IMO DD is washed up. As a season ticket holder I've focused on him...when he was playing...and saw a player who is a shell of his former self. He has NO push on today's guards and often can't even hold his ground on the run game. Father time has won...love the guy and the heart he showed, but he is no longer a viable player. I'd love to see him prove me wrong, but I'd be willing to put $100 on DD having less than 45 tackles and 4 sacks
Agree with most of this. Except I don't think he's washed up, depends on what you're expecting. And I don't think he sucks against the pass, he grades out well, he creates pressure and can funnel dudes but creates few sacks. But he's an absolute liability against the run. His only attribute against the run was moving across the line and chasing dudes down, and after his injury even that is compromised.

Frankly, I doubt his ability against the pass now too, after this injury. The leverage a player needs at that position to push off and shed is very taxing on the knees.

At best I think he's now a backup player, that's my opinion. And I think the Cards offer is very generous.
 

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Hearing the #Niners are closing in on Darnell Dockett, going to make him offer, passed his physical, per source.

Whatever the money we save can be better used elsewhere
 

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Agents don't make decisions for players. Darnell Dockett is a grown ass man.

If someone on this thread said agents make decisions for the players.... I missed it. It certainly wasn't me. But not all agents have the same negotiating tactics or style. I think we're seeing how Rosenhouse negotiates. Again.

Nine-O is no dummy. He's going to test the market and see what's out there. But, gut feeling, I think he re-signs with the Cardinals. And I think, if he does, a major factor will be his relationship with Arians.
 
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I think people are missing the point. It's the same as the Dansby situation, even if Dockett was cut, because the Cards wanted Dockett and Dansby at a certain price, and Dockett called out Dansby for not accepting the team's offer. This was the same thing, restructure or outright re-sign. The team had an offer, and DD didn't take it, just like Dansby.

It wasn't..oh you're cut, see ya. It's a 'we can't come to an agreement, so we're going to let you test the waters early and we have a deal for you if you can't find what you want'. The Cardinals, for all intents and purposes, are bending over backwards for Dockett, given they could of just outright cut him and told him to kick rocks.

Overall it's not that big of a deal to me, really it isn't. But Dockett is the one who put himself up on a higher pedestal, and I don't mind fans calling him out for suddenly changing when the same situation is happening to him. He's doing what he himself criticized.

Not only that, but to make remarks on his twitter, now backed up in the media that his focus on where he wants to go is in the NFCW, definitely is a bunch saltier then Dansby.

Plus you could even say DD has been paid, multiple times by the Cardinals, while Dansby walked before when we didn't offer what he wanted, and then did again. So you'd think between the two, the one who behaves better would be DD, given how much we've given him. But of course, we all know DD, so it's not a surprise that he reacted publicly. Though not nearly as badly as some expected.

So it actually seems worse when you know that DD got paid here and then went on a NFC west tour to slap us in the face, even though it was also reported that SK has an offer on the table for him and I believe it's been reported it won't decrease.

Of course how long it remains on the table is a mystery. Perhaps it's only until FA begins, which might have been the impetus for DD to come up with supposed deadlines, which now seem to have been pushed back. Who knows.

But overall, and it doesn't really matter to me, but Dockett set a higher standard, then broke it and went even lower then Dansby did. I can see why Cardinals fans would call him out on it, and it is completely legit.

Had DD himself not set this standard, fewer people would be jumping on him. That's what I see most people talking about. Not that he'd leave, but that he'd leave in this way after making such a big deal about it with other players.

That said, people should realize it's the ugly business side, and Dockett the player is still a guy who deserves respect for the decade he was on the field for us and being one of the players who was instrumental in our run to the Superbowl. Whatever happens, he's going to be in our ring of honor someday.
 
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Nine-O is no dummy. He's going to test the market and see what's out there. But, gut feeling, I think he re-signs with the Cardinals. And I think, if he does, a major factor will be his relationship with Arians.

Though I could be wrong because sometime between this morning and about two minutes ago 9-0 deleted "Cardinals is my squad" from his Twitter home page. Ain't that interesting.
 

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I think people are missing the point. It's the same as the Dansby situation, even if Dockett was cut, because the Cards wanted Dockett and Dansby at a certain price, and Dockett called out Dansby for not accepting the team's offer. This was the same thing, restructure or outright re-sign. The team had an offer, and DD didn't take it, just like Dansby.

It wasn't..oh you're cut, see ya. It's a 'we can't come to an agreement, so we're going to let you test the waters early and we have a deal for you if you can't find what you want'. The Cardinals, for all intents and purposes, are bending over backwards for Dockett, given they could of just outright cut him and told him to kick rocks.

Overall it's not that big of a deal to me, really it isn't. But Dockett is the one who put himself up on a higher pedestal, and I don't mind fans calling him out for suddenly changing when the same situation is happening to him. He's doing what he himself criticized.

Not only that, but to make remarks on his twitter, now backed up in the media that his focus on where he wants to go is in the NFCW, definitely is a bunch saltier then Dansby.

Plus you could even say DD has been paid, multiple times by the Cardinals, while Dansby walked before when we didn't offer what he wanted, and then did again. So you'd think between the two, the one who behaves better would be DD, given how much we've given him. But of course, we all know DD, so it's not a surprise that he reacted publicly. Though not nearly as badly as some expected.

So it actually seems worse when you know that DD got paid here and then went on a NFC west tour to slap us in the face, even though it was also reported that SK has an offer on the table for him and I believe it's been reported it won't decrease.

Of course how long it remains on the table is a mystery. Perhaps it's only until FA begins, which might have been the impetus for DD to come up with supposed deadlines, which now seem to have been pushed back. Who knows.

But overall, and it doesn't really matter to me, but Dockett set a higher standard, then broke it and went even lower then Dansby did. I can see why Cardinals fans would call him out on it, and it is completely legit.

Had DD himself not set this standard, fewer people would be jumping on him. That's what I see most people talking about. Not that he'd leave, but that he'd leave in this way after making such a big deal about it with other players.

That said, people should realize it's the ugly business side, and Dockett the player is still a guy who deserves respect for the decade he was on the field for us and being one of the players who was instrumental in our run to the Superbowl. Whatever happens, he's going to be in our ring of honor someday.

This is 100% accurate.
 

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We'll get the same or better production from Ed Stinson & Frostee. Then just grab Ngata and we're all set at NT.


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I have been telling people this since he was cut. People are over reacting. This is all just part of the negotiations to figure out what his market value is. I can't believe people don't see this because it is what players used the Cardinals for for years. Remember when Joe Montana came for a visit? Does anyone here really think he was interested in signing here? He was just trying to up his market value.

The Cards and Dock are using the niners to figure out what he is worth. Sure, there is a slight chance they make a great push and he falls in love but I am confident he winds up resigning here.
 

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I think that in the next day or two we will have the answer---either Dockett will agree to the Cardinals' offer or they will ink a similar deal with Tommy Kelly.
 

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I think that in the next day or two we will have the answer---either Dockett will agree to the Cardinals' offer or they will ink a similar deal with Tommy Kelly.

OT-mitch can u watch some tape as i did of preston smith and david tull,i d like to hear your opinion
 

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I think people are missing the point. It's the same as the Dansby situation, even if Dockett was cut, because the Cards wanted Dockett and Dansby at a certain price, and Dockett called out Dansby for not accepting the team's offer. This was the same thing, restructure or outright re-sign. The team had an offer, and DD didn't take it, just like Dansby.

It wasn't..oh you're cut, see ya. It's a 'we can't come to an agreement, so we're going to let you test the waters early and we have a deal for you if you can't find what you want'. The Cardinals, for all intents and purposes, are bending over backwards for Dockett, given they could of just outright cut him and told him to kick rocks.

Overall it's not that big of a deal to me, really it isn't. But Dockett is the one who put himself up on a higher pedestal, and I don't mind fans calling him out for suddenly changing when the same situation is happening to him. He's doing what he himself criticized.

Not only that, but to make remarks on his twitter, now backed up in the media that his focus on where he wants to go is in the NFCW, definitely is a bunch saltier then Dansby.

Plus you could even say DD has been paid, multiple times by the Cardinals, while Dansby walked before when we didn't offer what he wanted, and then did again. So you'd think between the two, the one who behaves better would be DD, given how much we've given him. But of course, we all know DD, so it's not a surprise that he reacted publicly. Though not nearly as badly as some expected.

So it actually seems worse when you know that DD got paid here and then went on a NFC west tour to slap us in the face, even though it was also reported that SK has an offer on the table for him and I believe it's been reported it won't decrease.

Of course how long it remains on the table is a mystery. Perhaps it's only until FA begins, which might have been the impetus for DD to come up with supposed deadlines, which now seem to have been pushed back. Who knows.

But overall, and it doesn't really matter to me, but Dockett set a higher standard, then broke it and went even lower then Dansby did. I can see why Cardinals fans would call him out on it, and it is completely legit.

Had DD himself not set this standard, fewer people would be jumping on him. That's what I see most people talking about. Not that he'd leave, but that he'd leave in this way after making such a big deal about it with other players.

That said, people should realize it's the ugly business side, and Dockett the player is still a guy who deserves respect for the decade he was on the field for us and being one of the players who was instrumental in our run to the Superbowl. Whatever happens, he's going to be in our ring of honor someday.

This is 100% accurate.

I can't agree with this. DD had a contact that was in place and Los didn't. The Cards had options as well and they exercised the right to cut him. Now one could argue that DD had to know he would never see the last year of that contract, but that something we'll never know.
 

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I should have added that DD is one of my favorite current players and I harbor no ill will towards him, I hope he comes back, but if he leaves I'll wish him well. I think he is doing what any other player would do. I know it's a game to us but it's business to them.
 

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I want him back but it doesn't bother me if he goes somewhere else. It is was it is.
 

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How about Wilfork (he is available per PFT) to replace DD if true he is a 49er?
 

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