Dwyer questioned and arrested for...Domestic Violence

[Finito]

What happened to waiting until someone is proven guilty.

 

[Buckybird]

Hopefully we can draft Winston now because he will fit right in after today!!

That's gonna be Jones' pick. Perfect fit for the orange jumpsuits from years past

 

[Covert Rain]

Many of us wake up and go to work. We take care of our families and leave good lives. Is it so hard to expect that the players on our teams do the same? To have an opportunity to play a freaking game for a living and make the money they do is a pipe dream for most people.

ZERO tolerance policy might be a pipe dream but maybe the NFL and other leagues take a LOW tolerance policy and make it very strict.

If you are arrested - immediate suspension with pay until the investigation is over. No exceptions. If charges are dropped because someone falsely accuses you, you are reinstated. If you are charged with a misdemeanor, strike 1. 3 strikes and your out.

If it's a felony, you plead no contest, found guilty or plead guilty....you should simply be out IMO. Sorry, but if we all are expected in a civil society to be responsible for our own actions so should they. If I can avoid a felony charge my entire life so can they.

I just think enough is enough.

 

[Mainstreet]

Cut him. Pull Grice off of Chargers practice squad.

I like this idea as an option.

 

[Fitz Rulz]

just heard on 98.7 that he has been deactivated by the Cardinals

 

[Buckybird]

What happened to waiting until someone is proven guilty.

Those days are over! $$$ says so & the Anheiser Busch statement to the Vikes changed the rules of the NFL and personal conduct forever IMO.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

I like this idea as an option.

Lets hope the cards think along the same lines. Grice is a hard charger...so to speak.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Dwyer was charged with aggravated assault and preventing someone from calling 911.

Yeah, I get that. She didn't go to the police at the first available opportunity was my point.

 

[Dback Jon]

Those days are over! $$$ says so & the Anheiser Busch statement to the Vikes changed the rules of the NFL and personal conduct forever IMO.

It is the real world. Not just in the NFL, but everywhere. Posters have provided countless examples of this happening (suspended with pay until legal troubles are resolved) but some on here refuse to acknowledge that.


An employer is not a court of law. They do not need a legal judgment to suspend or find an employee in violation of their employment contract.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lets hope the cards think along the same lines. Grice is a hard charger...so to speak.

Also Grice is a good receiver.

 

[Covert Rain]

Yeah, I get that. She didn't go to the police at the first available opportunity was my point.

Not so uncommon. It could be she was scared or intimidated. You see crimes go unreported all the time.

 

[crisper57]

All this news made me think of this old nugget:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2008/12/30/restraining-order-for-fitzgerald/

Can you imagine this in today's world?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Yeah, I get that. She didn't go to the police at the first available opportunity was my point.

Maybe with all of the recent attention she now feels empowered and compelled to come forward. It's never easy for these ladies to come forward, but when they see they aren't alone, it helps.

 

[splitsecond]

It should be a bigger story. They have a very public job. Right or wrong they are put on pedestal and considered role models. Your average Joe is not. It's the price they pay and are willing to pay to play a game for a living and make a ton of money.

The press reports average Joe crimes all the time but a story about a celebrity or athlete is bigger because there are more ratifications than just the legal aspect. If your a celebrity not only do you impact the victims but there are impacts to the movie studios, record labels, sports franchise or leagues they represent.

It's not a validation that their crimes are any worse than the average Joe one bit. However, when a celebrity breaks the law like it or now it is a much bigger story because of the further reaching impacts.

P.S. This entire thing makes me sick.

I am not sure I agree on this. Professionals such as lawyers, nurses, doctors etc. have rules of professional responsibility and / or rules of ethics that govern their field based on their position and in a sense their income. Athletes have similar provisions in their CBAs. The public doesn't get to force their own objective morality on athletes in any manner other than not buying their product or watching them. The rules MUST be subjective so they are properly enforced.

That being said, if the public isn't buying a product, the rules the athletes have to live by will be affected by the pubic's opinion.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Not so uncommon. It could be she was scared or intimidated. You see crimes go unreported all the time.

Of course they go unreported. Some say as many as 75% of these crimes go unreported. Is/Was she scared and wanted the protection of an understanding public? Does she want revenge and a better divorce settlement? Both are equally possible and maybe even valid. I would just love to know why this time is all.

 

[splitsecond]

It is the real world. Not just in the NFL, but everywhere. Posters have provided countless examples of this happening (suspended with pay until legal troubles are resolved) but some on here refuse to acknowledge that.


An employer is not a court of law. They do not need a legal judgment to suspend or find an employee in violation of their employment contract.

That isnt the issue here, in my opinion. The issue is the uninformed keyboard warriors that make up public opinion are dictating what employers do, and that is a disservice to the players and the league.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Maybe with all of the recent attention she now feels empowered and compelled to come forward. It's never easy for these ladies to come forward, but when they see they aren't alone, it helps.

Hopefully she gets the help she needs from wherever she can.

 

[splitsecond]

Of course they go unreported. Some say as many as 75% of these crimes go uncommitted. Is/Was she scared and wanted the protection of an understanding public? Does she want revenge and a better divorce settlement? Both are equally possible and maybe even valid. I would just love to know why this time is all.

Unfortunately, you are correct. These sorts of allegations are made so often in regards to family court cases, Arizona had to pass a law including a conviction for false abuse allegations as a factor in determining custody and parenting time.

 

[Dback Jon]

That isnt the issue here, in my opinion. The issue is the uninformed keyboard warriors that make up public opinion are dictating what employers do, and that is a disservice to the players and the league.

These keyboard warriors as you put it are the fan base - the ones that pay the salaries of these guys.


Pro sports isn't an ordinary profession - your whole livelihood depends on the public buying tickets to see you play and buying the products that are advertised in association with your play.


It is only our outrage that is causing the NFL to take this seriously.

 

[BW52]

That isnt the issue here, in my opinion. The issue is the uninformed keyboard warriors that make up public opinion are dictating what employers do, and that is a disservice to the players and the league.

Isn`t the real disservice to the league the continued poor behavior and then the scripted halfass apology that follows.
If the so-called keyboard warriors get disgusted along with the general public does that invalidate public opinion?People will think about a team or a sport because of something remembered or liked or something disliked.................................that`s that persons choice.So who is doing the real disservice? The players acting like criminals or the people thinking about what`s on the news repeatedly these days.

 

[BillsCarnage]

+1

+2

 

[RON_IN_OC]

These keyboard warriors as you put it are the fan base - the ones that pay the salaries of these guys.


Pro sports isn't an ordinary profession - your whole livelihood depends on the public buying tickets to see you play and buying the products that are advertised in association with your play.


It is only our outrage that is causing the NFL to take this seriously.

Exactly...Listen to Wilf's main talking points this morning: We listened to our fans, our community, our SPONSORS...We had to get this "right".

 

[Buckybird]

Officially booked per MJ

 

[Covert Rain]

The public doesn't get to force their own objective morality on athletes in any manner other than not buying their product or watching them. The rules MUST be subjective so they are properly enforced.

That being said, if the public isn't buying a product, the rules the athletes have to live by will be affected by the pubic's opinion.

Rules must be less subjective and more objective IMO. I think that is the problem the NFL and sports in general have now. Rules are subjectively applied and not consistently at that. No preferential treatment based on who you are.

 

[BW52]

Officially booked per MJ

nothing on Cards site yet.