Gabbert question: If he's competing to be a starter next year...

[robert ethan]

Just looking at the top 10 QBs in passing yardage this past season, every one of them is older than Gabbert, with the mean age being a bit over 32 years. So he has 5 years before he is the average age of a top 10 NFL QB.

 

[BigRedRage]

Just looking at the top 10 QBs in passing yardage this past season, every one of them is older than Gabbert, with the mean age being a bit over 32 years. So he has 5 years before he is the average age of a top 10 NFL QB.

You sure obsess with age

 

[robert ethan]

You sure obsess with age

Age is pretty important for pro athletes. They have about 5 prime years as a rule.

 

[JeffGollin]

Just looking at the top 10 QBs in passing yardage this past season, every one of them is older than Gabbert, with the mean age being a bit over 32 years. So he has 5 years before he is the average age of a top 10 NFL QB.

So...you're saying Gabbert is too young?

 

[robert ethan]

So...you're saying Gabbert is too young?

He's just getting started at the position. QBs can be effective longer than any other position player on the field. It's more like a baseball position, less physical stress and heavily experience oriented.

 

[Jetstream Green]

He's just getting started at the position. QBs can be effective longer than any other position player on the field. It's more like a baseball position, less physical stress and heavily experience oriented.

Not really, and that is the problem. If a pitcher is young and has problems with ball placement, he can go to the minor leagues and play over a hundred games to improve. You cannot do that in professional football because your body gets hit, it is more physically demanding, you do not have the time to fully keep reinventing the way you throw or behave in actual game conditions. Your time on the field in actual games conditions is strewn due to the nature of the sport.

Yes, there are the phases of a rooking getting adjusted to NFL speed and complex playbooks but that time is still limited. For someone like Gabbert, it could be too late because unlike other highly touted prospects (and you must remember he was not really that highly thought of because he was in a weak QB class and his props where inflated due to his draft class), he has not shown even close to the flashes of brilliance required to give a coaching staff a comfortable resolve which he is the solution. David Carr was a much better prospect than Gabbert in my opinion but he went to an expansion team and his fate was decided by how the organization used him.


Arians and the real QB guru on this team Tom Moore, see a flicker but if you asked them off the record, they would tell you the chances are slight. I want Gabbert to succeed because I am a Cardinal fan but right now my attention is towards a good QB named Palmer. He is in the twilight of his career which is why anyone here is talking about Gabbert and all the options with some intensity, but because Palmer is in his twilight, our starter for good reason, and what he has done for this team, the emphasis is especially about him and rightfully should be till he does retire. When the season starts, I do not want to hear about Stanton because that means Palmer who is our best chance to win got injured, and I sure the hell do not want to hear about Gabbert on a weekly basis if he is nothing more than a clipboard holder if Palmer is on the field.

I am thinking Palmer, DJ, Peterson, Dansby, Honey Badger, and of course Fitzgerald and a slew of other players before Gabbert even enters my mind because this is the 2017 season and they are the Cardinals who will decide if we get a championship. Currently, guys like Nkemdiche and even Brandon Williams hold more weight than Gabbert, as it should be on a Cardinal forum. Go Big Red!

 

[Buckybird]

Age is pretty important for pro athletes. They have about 5 prime years as a rule.

And so is being able to play at a high level which Gabbert can't

 

[Cardiac]

Not really, and that is the problem. If a pitcher is young and has problems with ball placement, he can go to the minor leagues and play over a hundred games to improve. You cannot do that in professional football because your body gets hit, it is more physically demanding, you do not have the time to fully keep reinventing the way you throw or behave in actual game conditions. Your time on the field in actual games conditions is strewn due to the nature of the sport. Yes, there are the phases of a rooking getting adjusted to NFL speed and complex playbooks but that time is still limited. For someone like Gabbert, it could be too late because unlike other highly touted prospects (and you must remember he was not really that highly thought of because he was in a weak QB class and his props where inflated due to his draft class), he has not shown even close to the flashes of brilliance required to give a coaching staff a comfortable resolve which he is the solution. David Carr was a much better prospect than Gabbert in my opinion but he went to an expansion team and his fate was decided by how the organization used him.
Arians and the real QB guru on this team Tom Moore, see a flicker but if you asked them off the record, they would tell you the chances are slight. I want Gabbert to succeed because I am a Cardinal fan but right now my attention is towards a good QB named Palmer. He is in the twilight of his career which is why anyone here is talking about Gabbert and all the options with some intensity, but because Palmer is in his twilight, our starter for good reason, and what he has done for this team, the emphasis is especially about him and rightfully should be till he does retire. When the season starts, I do not want to hear about Stanton because that means Palmer who is our best chance to win got injured, and I sure the hell do not want to hear about Gabbert on a weekly basis if he is nothing more than a clipboard holder if Palmer is on the field. I am thinking Palmer, DJ, Peterson, Dansby, Honey Badger, and of course Fitzgerald and a slew of other players before Gabbert even enters my mind because this is the 2017 season and they are the Cardinals who will decide if we get a championship. Currently, guys like Nkemdiche and even Brandon Williams hold more weight than Gabbert, as it should be on a Cardinal forum. Go Big Red!

I simply can't read this without paragraphs.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I simply can't read this without paragraphs.

Added one for you... sorry, years of reading classics like "War and Peace" in paperback editions has warped my perception of spacing my words lol

 

[Cardiac]

Added one for you... sorry, years of reading classics like "War and Peace" in paperback editions has warped my perception of spacing my words lol

Thanks buddy but still not enough. I will trek though it all tomorrow

 

[JeffGollin]

Added one for you... sorry, years of reading classics like "War and Peace" in paperback editions has warped my perception of spacing my words lol

What's a "Paperback?"

 

[Jetstream Green]

What's a "Paperback?"

It is something you use for toilet paper when you are in a jungle I think... as long as you stay a few chapters ahead of yourself lol

 

[BigRedRage]

What's a "Paperback?"

Its some sort of bike I think, the beatles had a song called paperback rider





not serious......

 

[Mitch]

BA said in his presser today that Blaine Gabbert has already figured out his offense to the point where he is calling out the protections. BA said that Gabbert is "light years ahead of where I thought he would be...or where any new QB would be." He said he has never seen anything like it. The coaches are all raving about him. FWIW.

 

[BigRedRage]

BA said in his presser today that Blaine Gabbert has already figured out his offense to the point where he is calling out the protections. BA said that Gabbert is "light years ahead of where I thought he would be...or where any new QB would be." He said he has never seen anything like it. The coaches are all raving about him. FWIW.

dont feed the bears!

 

[robert ethan]

Carson's arm suddenly feels a lot better, he wants to get out throwing.

 

[BigRedRage]

uh oh, looks like honey badger might be the #2 QB now, just got posted by the team:

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[BigRedRage]

Carson's arm suddenly feels a lot better, he wants to get out throwing.

While I am prodding just for fun, Carsons arm never felt bad and he has always been itching to go throw, the coaching staff holds him out because he is old.

 

[Chopper0080]

If Brian Hoyer and Josh McCown can stick around this league then there is reason the more talented Gabbert can if he has the drive. Now, he will never be the QB he was drafted to be, but he can be a guy who can be a serviceable fill in for short periods ala the perception of Drew Stanton.

 

[Solar7]

dont feed the bears!

This made me burst out laughing.

 

[jbeecham]

Stanton 6-3

2014
NYG – Win (25-14) – 14/29 for 167 yds, 0 TDs, 0 Ints (1 rushing TD & 4 FGs)
SF – Win (23-14) – 18/33 for 244 yds, 2 TDs, 0 Ints
Denver – Loss (41-20) – 11/26 for 118 yds, 0 TDs, 0 Ints
Detroit – Win (14-6) – 21/32 for 306 yds, 2 TDs, 2 Ints
Seattle – Loss (19-3) – 14/26 for 149 yds, 0 TDs, 1 Int
Atlanta – Loss (29-18) – 24/39 for 294 yds, 1 TD, 2 Ints
KC – Win (17-14) – 15/30 for 239 yds, 1 TD, 0 Ints
Rams – Win (12-6) – 12/20 for 109 yds, 0 TD, 0 Ints (4 FGs)

2016
SF – Win (33-21) – 11/28 for 124 yds, 2 TDs, 0 Ints
Rest of 2016 (4 more games) – 8/20 for 68 yds, 0 TDs, 3 Ints

Overall: 52.3% completions, 8 TDs, 8 Ints

Those have to be the worst stats for a 6-3 QB in NFL history. Only wins against teams with winning records were Detroit (11-5) & KC (9-7) and I wouldn't attribute any of the wins to Stanton's quality of play.... it's time for this guy to be replaced. I really hope Gabbert blows him away in pre-season.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Stanton 6-3

2014
NYG – Win (25-14) – 14/29 for 167 yds, 0 TDs, 0 Ints (1 rushing TD & 4 FGs)
SF – Win (23-14) – 18/33 for 244 yds, 2 TDs, 0 Ints
Denver – Loss (41-20) – 11/26 for 118 yds, 0 TDs, 0 Ints
Detroit – Win (14-6) – 21/32 for 306 yds, 2 TDs, 2 Ints
Seattle – Loss (19-3) – 14/26 for 149 yds, 0 TDs, 1 Int
Atlanta – Loss (29-18) – 24/39 for 294 yds, 1 TD, 2 Ints
KC – Win (17-14) – 15/30 for 239 yds, 1 TD, 0 Ints
Rams – Win (12-6) – 12/20 for 109 yds, 0 TD, 0 Ints (4 FGs)

2016
SF – Win (33-21) – 11/28 for 124 yds, 2 TDs, 0 Ints
Rest of 2016 (4 more games) – 8/20 for 68 yds, 0 TDs, 3 Ints

Overall: 52.3% completions, 8 TDs, 8 Ints

Those have to be the worst stats for a 6-3 QB in NFL history. Only wins against teams with winning records were Detroit (11-5) & KC (9-7) and I wouldn't attribute any of the wins to Stanton's quality of play.... it's time for this guy to be replaced. I really hope Gabbert blows him away in pre-season.

The main thing coaches want out of their backup is to not be the cause for the team to lose and Stanton is good at that(only 2 games with multiple INT's and 6 games with 0 Int'S). Look up backup QB winning % and I think you'll be very happy with 6-3.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The main thing coaches want out of their backup is to not be the cause for the team to lose and Stanton is good at that(only 2 games with multiple INT's and 6 games with 0 Int'S). Look up backup QB winning % and I think you'll be very happy with 6-3.

+1

Stanton has done everything asked of a backup QB. If certain fans don't like it, that is fine, but I would love to know what team has two starting caliber quarterbacks on it, in which both QB's have "good stats".

 

[juza76]

harry is still banned ?
this thread is worthless without harry

 

[BigRedRage]

harry is still banned ?
this thread is worthless without harry

You mean Robert Ethan? Harry isnt banned