Gambo: McGrady & Kobe in PHX...

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I just started listening to this a few minutes ago (3:10 p.m.). Has anybody asked Gambo specifically how they could get both players realistically? I would love to hear him try to explain this.

I'll call right now if no one has asked him yet. Let me know.

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With that team...I would be a season ticket holder starting yesterday.
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
This is not tampering. The Twovles signed Joe Smith to an illegal contract.
The Suns probably only talked with the agents. Afterall it was rumored that Kobe's agent already inquired about some teams having interesst.

The offseason can't come soon enough that is for sure.

TMac, Kobe and Amare, AWA could sell 100.000 tickets every night , lol.

I thought a team couldn't even inquire about a player (except in trade) unless the team he currently plays for gives their concent....I haven't heard anything from Kobe or T-Mac's agent
 

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Is this what they call a "fantasy league"? :D

Actually, after looking at the stupid deals the Celtics have made, I'm not sure my proposal of Marion, Jacobsen, and two firsts for Pierce is any more one sided than what they did. It would have used the Googs trade exemption for something useful.
 

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If Amare, Kobe and TMac end up all in Phoenix this offseason I would be willing to fly to Phoenix and hook up with people to carry the Colangelos on our shoulders through the city. :wave:
 

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if tmac comes to the suns then you can forget about having amare on the roster. amare doesnt like tmac. they meet just before amare was drafted and amare asked him some question and tmac wouldnt even answer him. amare said since he was traded that he didnt like tmac. so unless you think you can build a team around kobe and tmac with no big men beside jake dont plan on this happening.
 

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Originally posted by scotsman13
if tmac comes to the suns then you can forget about having amare on the roster. amare doesnt like tmac. they meet just before amare was drafted and amare asked him some question and tmac wouldnt even answer him. amare said since he was traded that he didnt like tmac. so unless you think you can build a team around kobe and tmac with no big men beside jake dont plan on this happening.


Kobe doesnt like Shaq.

Jeter doesn't really like ARod (from what i hear, I hate baseball)

The point is, people do not have to like each other off the court to be on the same team. Trying to tie signing TMAC into getting rid of Amare isn't being realistic
 

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Originally posted by scotsman13
if tmac comes to the suns then you can forget about having amare on the roster. amare doesnt like tmac. they meet just before amare was drafted and amare asked him some question and tmac wouldnt even answer him. amare said since he was traded that he didnt like tmac. so unless you think you can build a team around kobe and tmac with no big men beside jake dont plan on this happening.

Yeah, right, like their relationship would matter if this possibility even existed.

Gambo is an idiot. He should be fired just on principle.
 

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scotsman you are an idiot about this.

You don't want Kobe, you don't want TMac do you know basketball?

Amare never really dissed TMac at all, there were rumors that is it.

Amare is not an immature kid, you think he would bolt because TMac brushed him off once? LOL

One dinner and it is done. Amare doesn't even have a choice to bolt really unless he takes a big risk and refuses to sign with the Suns or anyone else until he is unrestricted.

Kobe, TMac, Amare than team is bound to be in the finals in the next 3 years or so.
Yeah Amare will bolt because TMac didn't answer a question!
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
scotsman you are an idiot about this.

You don't want Kobe, you don't want TMac do you know basketball?

Amare never really dissed TMac at all, there were rumors that is it.

Amare is not an immature kid, you think he would bolt because TMac brushed him off once? LOL

One dinner and it is done. Amare doesn't even have a choice to bolt really unless he takes a big risk and refuses to sign with the Suns or anyone else until he is unrestricted.

Kobe, TMac, Amare than team is bound to be in the finals in the next 3 years or so.
Yeah Amare will bolt because TMac didn't answer a question!

Scotty is not an idiot, but he IS wrong. :D

Putting together supestars always present a risk of bad chemistry, but great players are usually able to get over it. (Shaq and Kobe are always at each other's throats and they won three championships). Great chemistry is helpful for winning, but winning does a lot to create great chemistry.

Having this deal come together is not going to happen, but lack of chemistry is the least of the reasons why.
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
Who cares about chemistry?

Even if it doesn't work out the Suns could get almost anyone in a trade.

Chemestry is almost as important as talent IMO.
 

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So?

Look at the Blazers, with no chemistry always made the playoffs and competed.

Even if it didn't work out you would have Kobe and TMac as trade assets, you could pick from the NBA rosters like you are in a candy store.
 

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Okay, I'm on hold with them right now. I'm going to ask Gambo how he figures they are going to have the money to sign both players.

Joe

PS: I am "Chad in Gilbert". She said I would be on after the commercial break.
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
So?

Look at the Blazers, with no chemistry always made the playoffs and competed.

So you are happy with just making the playoffs? What about winning it....remember the Blazer's meltdowns in the playoffs....a little chemestry they would have won a championship or two.
 

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Originally posted by Joe Mama
PS: I am "Chad in Gilbert". She said I would be on after the commercial break.

I call and say my name is "Brian in Mesa" and act drunk
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
So you are happy with just making the playoffs? What about winning it....remember the Blazer's meltdowns in the playoffs....a little chemestry they would have won a championship or two.

Not trading J. O'Neal for Dale Davis would have helped too. :D

I'm not sure that all the chemistry in the world would have gotten the Blazers past the Lakers. They just never matched up well against them (few teams did). They might have made noise last year, but the Spurs had Duncan and no one else did.

None the less, the Blazers are not necessarily an example of bad chemistry as of bad "people" - drug charges, legal problems, and other serious off the court issues. Bonzi Wells was a great talent, but a mess as a human being.
 
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The human condition

It's scary how gullible people are when they are feeling hurt and vulnerable. If some people would calm down for a moment, they would realize that this fantasy scenario is absolutely absurd -- a classic example of "too good to be true."

1. Remember what happened when the articles about Bryant leaving the Lakers reached a fever pitch? Bryant issues a public statement declaring his interest in remaining a Laker for life. He was never the one leading the discussion about leaving -- it was all rumors coming from people who claimed to have heard him say something. So finally he comes out to calm things down, reiterating his alegiance to the franchise and his willingness to work with O'Neal and Jackson. Why would he do that if he had made up his mind to come to Phoenix?

2. It's very common for star players to make noise about wanting to play together. It's a way of complimenting one another: "Hey, man, you play well, it'd be fun to be on the same team." Duncan and Kidd made noise in that direction; we saw Marion getting chummy with Camby a couple of weeks ago; and so on and so on. It doesn't mean that the players have concocted an elaborate scheme to change teams. In fact, it almost never means that.

3. If the Magic feel forced to part with McGrady, they'll get a better offer than an overpaid complementary player and an unproven swingman with half a good season to show for his three-year career. Expect them to unload a bad contract (Howard or even Hill) and receive at least one prospect with true star potential.

"Gambo" is preying on human weakness in order to get attention and boost his ratings. It's sad and more than a little disturbing.
 

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Even if it didn't work out you would have Kobe and TMac as trade assets, you could pick from the NBA rosters like you are in a candy store.

Exactly. So why would the Magic accept only Marion and Johnson in return for McGrady?
 

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A top 5 pick doesn't have star potential? Shawn Marion isn't a star? Joe Johnson doesn't have star potential?

Can we please stop the negative attitude? That is ********.
 

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Originally posted by elindholm
Even if it didn't work out you would have Kobe and TMac as trade assets, you could pick from the NBA rosters like you are in a candy store.

Exactly. So why would the Magic accept only Marion and Johnson in return for McGrady?

TMac could opt out in 2005 and walk. He could put a little pressure on the Magic.
 

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Can we please stop the negative attitude? That is ********.

Come on, slinslin, you're living in a dream world. Just yesterday you were confident that the Suns were about to make a trade for Pierce. The "negative attitude" comes from the Suns' situation, not from me.
 

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What did he say?

I think Orlando would definately look very very hard at trading TMac for Marion,JJ and our pick. That might even be more than we should give up or they demand.
 
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