crisper57
Open the Roof!
Butler sucks but that block wasn't all him. Should never get blocked from the middle.
Gameday thread Ravens at Cardinals 10-26-15
- Thread starter BullheadCardFan
- Start date
iLLmatiC
Drive-by Poster
But but but I thought we were going to lose?
NJCardFan
ASFN Icon
Punterwise, you can get off a scrapheap but aside from the block, Butler was gangbusters tonight. He averaged 48 yards which is nearly 10 yards better than his season average.
NJCardFan
ASFN Icon
Really? What are you, 12? Grow up. This post just goes to show me that you don't have anything intelligent to add.
iLLmatiC
Drive-by Poster
Butler takes a century to kick the effing ball, that's his problem. Posters here have been predicting a mishap like what happened tonight from the start of the season.
iLLmatiC
Drive-by Poster
Please. Criticize my post by asking me to provide you with kickers and punters right at this very moment? Shove it bro, or go crawl back to azcardinals.com.
crisper57
Open the Roof!
DVontel
ASFN Icon
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2015
- Posts
- 13,059
- Reaction score
- 23,256
Tyrann for DPOY
Also, watch Baltimore lose in similar fashion to St. Louis & Seattle, smh.
Also, watch Baltimore lose in similar fashion to St. Louis & Seattle, smh.
crisper57
Open the Roof!
Replay on NFLN now
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2015
- Posts
- 192
- Reaction score
- 0
but this should scare Cardinals fans. The Cards didnt look very strong at all, over all in the game
NJCardFan
ASFN Icon
Didn't criticize, you said to cut both Butler and Cat right now and I simply asked you to name alternatives meaning my point is at this point in the season there aren't any. As for the 2nd half of your comment here, bless your little heart.
OP
OP
PFT’s Week Eight power rankings
8. Cardinals (5-2; No. 9): The Cards continue to pile up wins over bad teams.
8. Cardinals (5-2; No. 9): The Cards continue to pile up wins over bad teams.
I don't know if that TE catch over the back shoulder is a burn, fantastic toss and catch, at least Jefferson brought him down immediately. But Jefferson is not ideal cover on the larger TEs (outside of Bucannon, do we have any size in the backfield?)
- Joined
- May 14, 2002
- Posts
- 87,698
- Reaction score
- 39,012
Those 2 plays were hilarious. The TE pushed off Jefferson before jumping for the catch so Jefferson was asking for a flag. Then on the pick the same TE was asking for a pushing penalty on Jefferson when he pushed off again the ball was just overthrown.
DVontel
ASFN Icon
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2015
- Posts
- 13,059
- Reaction score
- 23,256
If only Fua got some PT.
I really wouldn't mind him covering Jimmy Graham on obvious passing situations when we play Seattle so Jimmy won't have a definite height advantage.
English on tour
Eng-gur-land Eng-gur-land
Said it before... is he really in the best 32 in the world at doing that thing that he does. Can't be.
schutd
ASFN Addict
I find it completely fun! Gut wrenching, sick to my stomach fun! Maybe its because regardless of outcome, I can get up the next day and move on with my life. You know, like regular people do.
schutd
ASFN Addict
Aside from the block, the one that resulted in an at-the-moment-games-not-over, touchdown by our opponent, one that this entire board has seen coming for the entire season, the one that took him 3 full steps and over 2 seconds to get off his foot even though the pressure was obviously coming, he was gangbusters tonight.
Its not his ability to punt well that everyone is worried about. Its his penchant for ****ting the bed at least once a game, every game, and its going to eventually cost us a win. It nearly did tonight.
Hes gotta go.
- Joined
- May 14, 2002
- Posts
- 87,698
- Reaction score
- 39,012
FWIW this link shows he really only took 2 steps, the 3rd "step" was the actual punt. https://twitter.com/NFL/status/658843539510464512?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
He tried to slide a bit to his left I'm not sure if he already realized the middle was unprotected or if he always does that but he took 2 steps. one of the comments said the ball was kicked in 1.88 seconds, which is the same number they gave on NFLN this morning so someone must have timed that, ESPN said 2.03.
Note when they say punts the goal is 2 to 2.1 seconds but that includes about .8 for a snap so the actual punt part is 1.3 or less. So if the 1.88 is for real that means he kicked the ball in about 1.08 seconds unless that snap was faster than usual.
He's a terrible punter, he ought to be replaced but the one last night wasn't his fault.
I'm a big fan of stats, more than I should be, but his punting stats and yardage don't concern me nearly as much as his release.
He's like a QB with a long windup or similar slow release. No matter who you are or how good your fundamentals, you can't be an accurate QB with a slow release. When the ball has to come out in 3 seconds, you can't spend 1 of those on the release. In that 1 second or half second, every player on the field has moved several yards in position. It can be done obviously, if you're in a timing offense and throwing to spots, but it's incredibly difficult and unlikely, which is why many coaches would rather change a throwing motion altogether.
Which is also why Rodgers is so damn phenomenal--no matter his body position or angle he's able to bring the ball from his hip to over his shoulder and throw a laser faster than anyone else in the NFL, probably ever (Marino maybe). His fundamentals aren't even sound, certainly not textbook, you'd never deliberately teach someone to play that way--half the time he doesn't even have the correct angle or balance to swivel his hips the way you'd like, carries the ball at hip level too often... yet he throws accurate darts, consistently... so you probably see that as a coach and you're like damn, that's ugly but I'm not "fixing" a damn thing, like artwork where they just splash a bunch of random paint on some **** and you stare at it uncomprehendingly and ask, "what is it?" and the guy replies, "It's art."
Too many beers, forgot what I was even responding to...
Oh, yeah, Butler. He sucks.
Sent from my VK810 4G using Tapatalk
He's like a QB with a long windup or similar slow release. No matter who you are or how good your fundamentals, you can't be an accurate QB with a slow release. When the ball has to come out in 3 seconds, you can't spend 1 of those on the release. In that 1 second or half second, every player on the field has moved several yards in position. It can be done obviously, if you're in a timing offense and throwing to spots, but it's incredibly difficult and unlikely, which is why many coaches would rather change a throwing motion altogether.
Which is also why Rodgers is so damn phenomenal--no matter his body position or angle he's able to bring the ball from his hip to over his shoulder and throw a laser faster than anyone else in the NFL, probably ever (Marino maybe). His fundamentals aren't even sound, certainly not textbook, you'd never deliberately teach someone to play that way--half the time he doesn't even have the correct angle or balance to swivel his hips the way you'd like, carries the ball at hip level too often... yet he throws accurate darts, consistently... so you probably see that as a coach and you're like damn, that's ugly but I'm not "fixing" a damn thing, like artwork where they just splash a bunch of random paint on some **** and you stare at it uncomprehendingly and ask, "what is it?" and the guy replies, "It's art."
Too many beers, forgot what I was even responding to...
Oh, yeah, Butler. He sucks.
Sent from my VK810 4G using Tapatalk
Similar threads
