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Cbus cardsfan · Oct 15, 2006

he just reported that the Cards defensive locker room is a mess.Berry and Hayes walked out of a meeting and Griffith almost came to blows with Pendergast. He also mentioned that DG didn't know anything about it. Not a very good sign. He also mentioned that Buffalo is intersted in moving Nate Clements. The Cards should get a trade worked out and sign him long term.

General Chaos · Oct 15, 2006

I find that very hard to believe. B. Berry doesn't seem the type at all to do something like that.

joeshmo · Oct 15, 2006

Someone probably questioned Berrys production up to this point, and he didnt like it.

I like the guy, but he got old really fast. 9 tackles, 0 sacks, 1 TFL, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 PD. In 5 games? Hate to say it but the guy has stunk up the joint so far this season. Watching him play this season it seems that he has only one move and one move only, try and run around the OT.

As for Griffith maybe Pendy finally got on him for talking to much trash, tackling with his shoulder to make the big hit, and possiblity of being benched.

Not sure what Hayes problem was, or why he would walk out.

Also am I the only who thinks Pendy is slightly overrated.

arthurracoon · Oct 15, 2006

it might be time for a new coaching staff....again....

Young Card · Oct 15, 2006

This is not good news. I'm not someone who thinks Green is the problem but if he has this little controll over the team then he has to go. This is bad news right before a game where I hoped for an upset.

ANDY440 · Oct 15, 2006

Glazer??? from the Bears board?

Cheesebeef · Oct 15, 2006

joeshmo said:
Also am I the only who thinks Pendy is slightly overrated.

slightly? so far he's made Damon Huard and Alex Smith look like Joe Montana. The bloom is off the rose with Pendy as far as I'm concerned.

Cbus cardsfan · Oct 15, 2006

ANDY440 said:
Glazer??? from the Bears board?

Brian(i think) Glazer is the Fox pre-game NFL "insider" and it was during his weekly report of things going on around the NFL.

MaoTosiFanClub · Oct 15, 2006

joeshmo said:
Also am I the only who thinks Pendy is slightly overrated.

Massively overrated. I've been saying for awhile now that Pendy is the Green Era version of Jerry Sullivan, another guy who got way more credit than he deserved because of head coaching and front office incompetence. I always get a laugh when people insist he is head coach material considering his defenses the last couple years are below average at best.

And to borrow a line from Walter Mitchell - Green Must Go.

ANDY440 · Oct 15, 2006

Just joking

Rats · Oct 15, 2006

Can a link be provided with this report. The report I read had Clements being shopped and Big Davis being shopped but I did not see anything on this from Glazer and I am calling BS on this until a link can be provided.

LoyaltyisaCurse · Oct 15, 2006

Rats said:
Can a link be provided with this report. The report I read had Clements being shopped and Big Davis being shopped but I did not see anything on this from Glazer and I am calling BS on this until a link can be provided.

http://msn.foxsports.com/

on the right side of the page in the middle.

AZCB34 · Oct 15, 2006

Hmmm...and Denny didn't know anything about this either according to Glazer.

Team is unravelling right now.

ajcardfan · Oct 15, 2006

AZCB34 said:
Hmmm...and Denny didn't know anything about this either according to Glazer.

Team is unravelling right now.

If they somehow mananged to pull off the major upset tomorrow, it will be forgotten. But, if it's another loss........you're right. They will continue to unravel.

AZCB34 · Oct 15, 2006

ajcardfan said:
If they somehow mananged to pull off the major upset tomorrow, it will be forgotten. But, if it's another loss........you're right. They will continue to unravel.

AJ, I had expected something like this from the offense (directed at the OL) but they seem to be still unified, at least outwardly.

even though I think alot of what Pendergrast has done has been done with smoke and mirrors, he has had some moderate success and I would have thought the D would have been a pretty happy unit.

I wonder if Denny publically throwing both coordinators under the bus a couple weeks ago allowed this to start brewing.

Russ Smith · Oct 15, 2006

joeshmo said:
Someone probably questioned Berrys production up to this point, and he didnt like it.

I like the guy, but he got old really fast. 9 tackles, 0 sacks, 1 TFL, 0 FF, 0 FR, 0 PD. In 5 games? Hate to say it but the guy has stunk up the joint so far this season. Watching him play this season it seems that he has only one move and one move only, try and run around the OT.

.

I'm hoping he's just not healthy yet, remember this time last year everyone was asking what's wrong with Julius Peppers? But Peppers is much younger than Berry of course.

DeAnna · Oct 15, 2006

The defense is prolly tired of having to carry this team. And Pendergast is prolly demading even more from them. Heck, I'd walk out too.

nurnay · Oct 15, 2006

DeAnna said:
The defense is prolly tired of having to carry this team. And Pendergast is prolly demading even more from them. Heck, I'd walk out too.

No one is carrying this team, certainly not the defense. All aspects of this team suck.

azsouthendzone · Oct 15, 2006

nurnay said:
No one is carrying this team, certainly not the defense. All aspects of this team suck.

I concur. If anyone walked out then they are a candy ass. Last time I checked the defense wasn't exactly top 10. If Griffith almost came to blows with Clancy, then maybe its time to start his retirement a little early and let Aaron Francisco start his career.

Cheesebeef · Oct 15, 2006

nurnay said:
No one is carrying this team, certainly not the defense. All aspects of this team suck.

well said.

Ryanwb · Oct 15, 2006

Say what you want about Coach rah rah McGinnis, but one thing he never did was lose the team. My patience for the Denny Green era is about over. Somebody call ESPN and order a supersized re-enforced fat guy desk chair.... big papa is coming home

RugbyMuffin · Oct 15, 2006

Cbus cardsfan said:
he just reported that the Cards defensive locker room is a mess.Berry and Hayes walked out of a meeting and Griffith almost came to blows with Pendergast. He also mentioned that DG didn't know anything about it. Not a very good sign. He also mentioned that Buffalo is intersted in moving Nate Clements. The Cards should get a trade worked out and sign him long term.

One can only imagine what happens during the offensive meetings.

I like Green but it seems he has no control over this team. Even though this is not really proven source you cannot deny what is seen on the field every week. This team looks like a team that has no leader, and is out of control.

But if Green is let go then who comes in to try and turn this organization around?

Is there anyone that can stop this downward spiral?

ajcardfan · Oct 15, 2006

Ryanwb said:
Say what you want about Coach rah rah McGinnis, but one thing he never did was lose the team. My patience for the Denny Green era is about over. Somebody call ESPN and order a supersized re-enforced fat guy desk chair.... big papa is coming home

Oh, he lost them. They liked each other and they loved Mac. But, they were even more lost than the team we have now. They weren't fighting with each other and the coaches, but they just rolled over on the field.

BigDavis75 · Oct 15, 2006

RugbyMuffin said:
One can only imagine what happens during the offensive meetings.

I like Green but it seems he has no control over this team. Even though this is not really proven source you cannot deny what is seen on the field every week. This team looks like a team that has no leader, and is out of control.

But if Green is let go then who comes in to try and turn this organization around?

Is there anyone that can stop this downward spiral?

I don't think one person is going to stop it, the only way to stop it is for the team to start winning and this is the worst week of the season for this to be happening to the team. Does anyone think this may be because of Edge?
This stuff started, apparently, after Edge called out the coaches to the media and made it seem okay to undermine the staff. Edge seems to be the leder of the team and he isn't setting a good example.

red desert · Oct 15, 2006

Ryanwb said:
Say what you want about Coach rah rah McGinnis, but one thing he never did was lose the team. My patience for the Denny Green era is about over. Somebody call ESPN and order a supersized re-enforced fat guy desk chair.... big papa is coming home

Yup. Let's get the HONEYCOMB SUGARBEAR lookalike back to where he belongs.

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