Golden state @ Dallas

[az1965]

Jason "the punk" Terry should be suspended at least a game... I'm surprised media is not all over it.

 

[jenna2891]

jenna, I have a question for ya.

Which do you think was worse. The non foul call at the end of the Houston/Utah game 5, or the phantom call against Davis at the end of this one.

I think that the Davis one was worse, especially since they called the 6th foul on him.

i would agree with that. i was just wondering this morning what the ref's motives were with the baron call. he either a) was being a total dick for calling the foul on something that was basically standard fare for this series or b) he thought gs was going for the deliberate foul.

either way, that was a really, really horrible call. there were 21 seconds left in the game and gs was down 113-112. with baron davis still in, the warriors would have still had a chance.

people have been talking about this game as if dallas came back and it was no contest, but the last seven points by dallas were free throws. arguably you could say that the foul on baron and the foul dirk didn't get called for right before that were the real reason dallas came back to win.

 

[az1965]

Because he got good coaching finally after leaving Lavin. When Barnes was at UCLA he was so fed up with Lavin first he nearly quit to play football(all state WR in HS) then he started paying to have a private coach work with him to teach him what Lavin and staff weren't teaching him.

So happy to see him put it all together.

Russ, just curious to know how come you are a GS fan? I know you are a Cardinals fan instead of 49ers.

 

[jenna2891]

Jason "the punk" Terry should be suspended at least a game... I'm surprised media is not all over it.

i agree. i'm really pissed that i can't find news about it ANYWHERE.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

i agree. i'm really pissed that i can't find news about it ANYWHERE.

Which means he won't get suspended. But Stephen Jackson probably will.

 

[az1965]

i agree. i'm really pissed that i can't find news about it ANYWHERE.

That should have been an ejection, IMO. That was intentionally done and agree it was worse than Raja's clotheslining of Kobe as it banged Davis' head on the floor.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

the funny thing is, i'm now looking for the clip and i can't find it anywhere. i can't even find mention of it as a noteworthy story. how is jackson getting thrown out a bigger deal than this?

There was also a foul earlier in the 4th where Matt Barnes was going for the Dunk and was pushed squarely in the back without any effort by (I think it was Harris) to go for the ball...That should've been a flagrant1.

 

[jenna2891]

That should have been an ejection, IMO. That was intentionally done and agree it was worse than Raja's clotheslining of Kobe as it banged Davis' head on the floor.

not to mention the fact that it happened while they weren't even in play. raja's foul was intentional, it was done out of frustration and it was a hard foul, but it was done during game play (calm down, d-dogg; this isn't me condoning raja's actions). what terry did happened AFTER the ball went out of bounds and the clock was already stopped.

i've watched about 12 different highlight reels from the game and not one has mentioned it. (if anyone can find raw game footage, it happened with 9:07 left in the 3rd)

 

[F-Dog]

There's no way the NBA can suspend Jason Richardson. They'd open up a huge can of worms, basically inviting dumb (but rational) fans to physically assault the opposing team's players during playoff games.

Terry's a different story. He'd probably get suspended for a game in the regular season, but facing an elimination game, the offense would have to be beyond blatent and just shy of inexcusable for the league to do something about it--if there's any question at all, they'll let him play.


My guess is, both teams will be at full strength for game 6.

 

[sunsfn]

There was a short article on Hoopshype that said they are reviewing the Baron Davis take down. It also mentioned something about people that saw it thought there was some acting by Davis.

I saw the play happen, and watched it again when they showed it, but it was hard to see with the players and the camera angle.

 

[msdundee]

There's no way the NBA can suspend Jason Richardson. They'd open up a huge can of worms, basically inviting dumb (but rational) fans to physically assault the opposing team's players during playoff games.

Terry's a different story. He'd probably get suspended for a game in the regular season, but facing an elimination game, the offense would have to be beyond blatent and just shy of inexcusable for the league to do something about it--if there's any question at all, they'll let him play.


My guess is, both teams will be at full strength for game 6.

If the league is reviewing the T's, you'd like to think they'll review them all including Terry's. Jackson's handclapping was very tame compared to the throwdown on Davis which IMO was indeed beyond blatant and just shy of inexcusable. It's been noted that Jackson's history might play against him in this case but Terry has a little unsavory history of his own from last year. If they suspend one and not the other it will be totally unfair.

Along with that, did anyone else see Terry yelling whatever at Jackson as he was escorted off the court? Probably trying to get a response and make it bigger than it was. His tough guy act cracks me up, almost as much as his "superstition" about the four pairs of socks he wears to camouflage those skinny little bird legs.

 

[jenna2891]

Terry's a different story. He'd probably get suspended for a game in the regular season, but facing an elimination game...

like game 6 against the lakers last year?

 

[SO91]

There will be no suspension for Stephen Jackson. It's posted on ESPN. Also there was a Marc Stein blog up on ESPN earlier that said the league was looking at the Jason Terry incident, but no word yet on a decision. I tried to find it again, but I guess you have to be an Insider to read the rest.

Edit: Here's the link http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/news/story?id=2858133

 

[jbeecham]

Another oddity in the Stephen Jackson case is that his ejection came after only one technical foul. A second technical is an automatic ejection; one-tech ejections usually come for egregious acts.

Stephen Jackson:
"If I wanted to blow up, I could've blew up then. Why blow up when there's 8 seconds left when the game is over? It doesn't make no sense," he said. "Do I have 'moron' written on my forehead when I walk out on the court or something? I don't. ... I'm smarter than a lot of people think. I'm going to continue to play basketball and do what I do."

"I wasn't trying to show nobody up," he said Wednesday, adding that he was already consoling teammates and telling them to look ahead to the next game. "It didn't make no sense to me."

 

[Cheesebeef]

I hate Terry as much as anyone else, but it was a HUGE acting job by Baron and didn't warrant a suspension IMO.

 

[jenna2891]

I hate Terry as much as anyone else, but it was a HUGE acting job by Baron and didn't warrant a suspension IMO.

that's why i want to see the video again. i watched it a bunch of times last night and it seemed like a big deal. although davis wasn't trying to minimize how hard he was shoved, terry was definitely trying to throw him to the ground.

 

[Linderbee]

Another oddity in the Stephen Jackson case is that his ejection came after only one technical foul. A second technical is an automatic ejection; one-tech ejections usually come for egregious acts.

Stephen Jackson:
"If I wanted to blow up, I could've blew up then. Why blow up when there's 8 seconds left when the game is over? It doesn't make no sense," he said. "Do I have 'moron' written on my forehead when I walk out on the court or something? I don't. ... I'm smarter than a lot of people think. I'm going to continue to play basketball and do what I do."

"I wasn't trying to show nobody up," he said Wednesday, adding that he was already consoling teammates and telling them to look ahead to the next game. "It didn't make no sense to me."

Yeah, he's smarter than most people think...I think he has no command of the English language.

 

[Mulli]

Yeah, he's smarter than most people think...I think he has no command of the English language.

What do you expect? The Suns drafted him out of the third grade.

 

[jenna2891]

Another oddity in the Stephen Jackson case is that his ejection came after only one technical foul. A second technical is an automatic ejection; one-tech ejections usually come for egregious acts.

Stephen Jackson:
"If I wanted to blow up, I could've blew up then. Why blow up when there's 8 seconds left when the game is over? It does make all sense," he said. "Do I have 'moron' written on my forehead when I walk out on the court or something? I don't. ... I'm smarter than a lot of people think. I'm going to continue to play basketball and do what I do."

"I was trying to show everybody up," he said Wednesday, adding that he was already consoling teammates and telling them to look ahead to the next game. "It did make all sense to me."

fixed.


/linderbee

 

[sunsfn]

Part of the article.


Game 5 Incident Report
by: Marc Stein
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• NBA observers in the building interviewed multiple spectators after the game about an alleged tangle between Golden State's Jason Richardson and a Mavs fan sitting across from the Dallas bench. Richardson fell after a shot and tempers appeared to flare when the Warriors' swingman felt he was being impeded as he tried to get up to rejoin the game. Because the Mavs' fan filed a report with NBA security, league officials are expected to review the incident.


PS -- Dallas' Jason Terry shoving Baron Davis near the Warriors' bench might get a look as well, since it received plenty of TV time after the game, but a few folks who have seen the replay (I haven't yet) insist there was a flop involved.

 

[F-Dog]

like game 6 against the lakers last year?

You know the difference--the Raja play was soooo obvious. There was simply no plausable way to explain it as anything other than a blatent cheap shot.

Even so, Raja nearly got away with it IMO.

 

[Russ Smith]

I agree jenna terry almost took that guys head off he defintally needs to be fined bigtime for that or atleast suspended a game for it

It was just a poorly executed DDT.

 

[jenna2891]

You know the difference--

i know, just busting your chops.

 

[Russ Smith]

Did anyone hear that Jason Richardson shoved a Mavs fan after the game, it was caught on video, and is now being reviewed by the league?

My local paper quotes him as denying it and the mavs claimed there was no tape on it, but fans said he shoved someone and cursed at him. This is the play where I say Dirk fouled him, he knocked Richardson into the crowd, and then JR allegedly pushed a fan who was trying to help him up.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ, just curious to know how come you are a GS fan? I know you are a Cardinals fan instead of 49ers.

Live in the bay area, discovered the NBA in 75 the year Rick Barry led the Warriors to the sweep over the Bullets.