He was injured during a game though. I think as a result of the injury, he had that deer in the headlights approach to football and some suggested he was actually scared playing so he retired. Not sure if I am right but I think that is what I remember.
Heard on KDUS that both Johnson and Pace are not going to participate in drills!
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He was injured during a game though. I think as a result of the injury, he had that deer in the headlights approach to football and some suggested he was actually scared playing so he retired. Not sure if I am right but I think that is what I remember.
You are right CB it really doesnt matter we could argue till we are blue in the face because I like the stand the team takes with these primadonnas!
The guys here have a gift given to them it is a priveledge to play in the NFL NOT A RIGHT!
They need to have there butts on the field!
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Well...if memory serves, he hurt his knee and instead of rehabbing the knee he hung up his laces and moved back to his ranch in Idaho. I don't remember the extent of the injury...
We have a tendancy to spoil our QB's in Pullman...they always seem to crack at some point...
Yes but like CB stated im quite cerain it was during a agame and that it was an injury that would not be career threatening!
Thats why the Cardinals were shocked when he decided to retire which is a personal choice not something he was forced into by the injury itself!
Cardinals.Ken
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This entire debate should be a moot point anyway. The NFL should already have a policy in place to proteect both the players and the owners!
Cardinals.Ken
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Yes, it was during gameplay
No, it wasn't career threating
dang, I hate being honest!
Don't get me wrong Shane. I have stated I admire the Bidwills stance on this...but I admire the players stance as well and unfortunately the stance taken is a detriment to the organization.
I don't buy the privilege issue but that is another argument for another thread...a thread by the way I will avoid.
As long as they are in town going through the classroom stuff, I am not too concerned. Wendell just not being here for the second one last year is what infuriated me. I understand the waiver issue but that shouldn't cross into the classroom learning issue. I am more concerned with them being signed into camp on time.
Originally posted by AZCB34
Don't get me wrong Shane. I have stated I admire the Bidwills stance on this...but I admire the players stance as well and unfortunately the stance taken is a detriment to the organization.
I don't buy the privilege issue but that is another argument for another thread...a thread by the way I will avoid.
As long as they are in town going through the classroom stuff, I am not too concerned. Wendell just not being here for the second one last year is what infuriated me. I understand the waiver issue but that shouldn't cross into the classroom learning issue. I am more concerned with them being signed into camp on time.
Alrite an excuse to open up a new thread! WOOOHOOO
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I know there were several big injuries last year, because we were paying attention during that time because of Bryant. I searched for 5-10 mins at kffl and found these mini-camp injuries below, I know there is more, but you asked for one name and I do have a life!
Jaguars | Two On IR - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:47:30 -0700
Jaguars.com reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have placed, as expected, OL Aaron Koch and Chris Ziemann on injured reserve. Both tore their ACLs during spring practices.
Jets | Szott Undergoes Surgery to Repair ACL - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:15:15 -0700
Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports New York Jets * Dave Szott (ACL) underwent surgery on Wednesday to repair the torn ACL in his right knee. Head coach Herman Edwards is hopeful that Szott can return to action by November or late October.
Chiefs | More on Minnis - from www.KFFL.com
Sat, 4 May 2002 09:05:07 -0700
As an update to Friday's story, the Kansas City Star reports Kansas City Chiefs second-year WR Marvin Minnis (foot) suffered a broken fifth metatarsal bone in his right foot during Friday's workouts. The injury happened when he was running routes and made a cut. Head coach Dick Vermeil said it's just one of those freak things and the doctors will put a screw in there to help the healing process. As reported, Minis is expected to miss eight weeks of action.
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I know there were several big injuries last year, because we were paying attention during that time because of Bryant. I searched for 5-10 mins at kffl and found these mini-camp injuries below, I know there is more, but you asked for one name and I do have a life!
Jaguars | Two On IR - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:47:30 -0700
Jaguars.com reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have placed, as expected, OL Aaron Koch and Chris Ziemann on injured reserve. Both tore their ACLs during spring practices.
Jets | Szott Undergoes Surgery to Repair ACL - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:15:15 -0700
Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports New York Jets * Dave Szott (ACL) underwent surgery on Wednesday to repair the torn ACL in his right knee. Head coach Herman Edwards is hopeful that Szott can return to action by November or late October.
Chiefs | More on Minnis - from www.KFFL.com
Sat, 4 May 2002 09:05:07 -0700
As an update to Friday's story, the Kansas City Star reports Kansas City Chiefs second-year WR Marvin Minnis (foot) suffered a broken fifth metatarsal bone in his right foot during Friday's workouts. The injury happened when he was running routes and made a cut. Head coach Dick Vermeil said it's just one of those freak things and the doctors will put a screw in there to help the healing process. As reported, Minis is expected to miss eight weeks of action.
First off AJ Iknow you have a life what school teacher doesnt?
Plus we almost alkways agree
But in this case we dont. Like I admit injuries happen but find me a career ending one from mini camp?
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The Chris Gedney thing really burned me at the time. A few years ago the Packers drafted a punter named Josh Bidwill in the 3rd round I think, and discovered he had testicular cancer and wouldn't be able to punt that year. Below were some of Josh's comments the year after his battle with cancer. If Bill Bidwill would help take care of his players, his players would give him a better effort in return for that loyalty.
From August 2000:
And Bidwill is putting pressure on himself to win the job in Green Bay.
"I feel I owe the organization a ton," he said. "The way they took care of me last year - not only just drafted me - but the way they took care of me when I was sick, that was a huge blessing.
"I feel a great, not burden, but I feel like I need to give back to the Packer organization. I think they really want me to make it. They're definitely going to put the right guy in there, whoever's doing the best; it's not a charity at this point. I really feel like I want to pay them back by winning the job and helping them out a little bit."
From August 2000:
And Bidwill is putting pressure on himself to win the job in Green Bay.
"I feel I owe the organization a ton," he said. "The way they took care of me last year - not only just drafted me - but the way they took care of me when I was sick, that was a huge blessing.
"I feel a great, not burden, but I feel like I need to give back to the Packer organization. I think they really want me to make it. They're definitely going to put the right guy in there, whoever's doing the best; it's not a charity at this point. I really feel like I want to pay them back by winning the job and helping them out a little bit."
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I found a link here that says that Rosenbach tore his knee on the practice field. That was 1991. (Tupa the great was the QB)
Came back in 1992 and was knocked out by Santana Dotson.
He then wanted to go be a cowboy and quit.
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/sports00/111700_nflnote.shtml
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Originally posted by Shane H
First off AJ Iknow you have a life what school teacher doesnt?
Plus we almost alkways agree
But in this case we dont. Like I admit injuries happen but find me a career ending one from mini camp?
Torn ACL's are about as bad as it gets, unless it's a spinal cord injury. I don't know if Szott's or those OL in Jacksonville ended their careers with those injuries, but I'm very confident they were glad they had signed contracts!
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He was injured running a "naked bootleg" play in practice. Completely untouched, knee just exploded. I'll never forget it, it was the "curse" in action.
Originally posted by ajcardfan
Torn ACL's are about as bad as it gets, unless it's a spinal cord injury. I don't know if Szott's or those OL in Jacksonville ended their careers with those injuries, but I'm very confident they were glad they had signed contracts!
That is correct an ACL is about as bad as its going to get but in todays medacine that is hardly an injury that is career threatening and not something that is going to keep a team from negotiating the proper contract in relation to where the guy was drafted simply because of the success of such surgerys nowadays.
Shane,
So you are saying that if our players blow a knee and has to sit the entire year without knowing how well he will be in yr 2 (btw it has been 2 yrs for KVB since his injury. and it is only now that people are saying that he is back to his old form) that the Cards would still negotiate and take none of the injury into account? Even if the guy sits a whole year and then is only 50-75% the next year? Sounds a little "Polyannish" to me.
Yes thats what im saying! A team is not going to fail to negotiate with a draft pick just because he tore an ACL.
Heck Mcgahee got drafted in the first round and blew all 3 ligaments in his knee yet Buffalo is still going to give this guy first round money CASE IN POINT!
Ya but he will not get #1-3 Money we was going to get... So are saying we should give Pace round #2 money becouse that is were he should have gone?
Mcgahee will still get his first round money or he wont sign!
The guy is talented enough to wait and go in next years draft. Buffalo took the chance and they will pay!
The guy is talented enough to wait and go in next years draft. Buffalo took the chance and they will pay!
First round money yes but there is a big differance in First round and #1-3 MONEY! If he slipped to the 2nd round would you pay him 1st round money?
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