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The last Cards RB to run over 1,100 was Otis Anderson (yrs 79 thru 84). No improvement over that since 1984. Travis obviously would be a real big improvement.
Pariah said:You've probably also read a lot about the offensive line really coming together about midway through the season. That's been cited as a big reason for their turnaround, too.
Pariah said:You've probably also read a lot about the offensive line really coming together about midway through the season. That's been cited as a big reason for their turnaround, too.
Russ Smith said:The whole point at RB this offseason I thought was to get a "speed back" who fit the mold of Robert Smith, Michael Bennett.
Chainthroer said:The last Cards RB to run over 1,100 was Otis Anderson (yrs 79 thru 84). No improvement over that since 1984. Travis obviously would be a real big improvement.
It was in 1995 when he rushed for a 1070 yards and he scored 1 TD.KingofCards said:I believe Garrison Hearst went for over 1000 one year. But didn't score any touchdowns.
I hope we get some official confimation on this.
joeshmo said:Not to mention they changed the play calling, Bledsoe started to throw the ball quicker, and the emergence of Lee Evans later on in the season. That had nothing to do with it either. Russ is getting into that old Stats trap, we all have done. There is no substitute for actually watching the games and if he saw more of them he would know that Henry was the least of the reasons for all of the sacks.
It was WM that ran all over us. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20041031_ARI@BUFPortlandCardFan said:Did Henry play when the Cards played them last year?
joeshmo said:That was ASFN's collective plan not Greens. Has green ever actually said he was looking for a speed back. All I have every heard him say was he wanted a franchise RB who will give him 1200 yards a year.
I'm not saying Henry is a better blocker than McGahee, or better after contact, or a more versitile player in the passing game--that's not at issue here, we're not comparing McGahee and Henry (FYI, I think McGahee is a much better back than henry in most all aspects)--I'm just saying that I don't think Henry is poor at blitz pick-up.Russ Smith said:. I have seen direct quotes where he said "we struggled in blitz pickups today which is something we've been doing really well since the early season problems." I gotta think he's saying one guy is a better blocker that's why he's playing.
Pariah said:blitzes aren't just picked up by the halfback.
Russ Smith said:Please do elaborate, I'd love to here more reasons why Henry is a great pickup.
From looking at stats I see Henry started 5 games, and Bledsoe was sacked 23 times in those 5 games. McGahee started 11 games, and Bledsoe was sacked 14 times in those games.
The 5 games Henry started were Jax, Oakland, New England, NY Jets and Baltimore, 4 very good defenses one bad one. So you would EXPECT more sacks in those games but not necessarily 3.5 times more sacks. So I'd love to hear other reasons because everything I read online says one of the biggest reasons for the RB switch was all the sacks.
Pariah said:I'm not saying Henry is a better blocker than McGahee, or better after contact, or a more versitile player in the passing game--that's not at issue here, we're not comparing McGahee and Henry (FYI, I think McGahee is a much better back than henry in most all aspects)--I'm just saying that I don't think Henry is poor at blitz pick-up.
I can't elaborate further on the offensive line coming together in the second half of the season. All I can tell you is I've seen reports where that is cited as a major reason for the turnaround. I know you know this, but I'll throw it out there anyway: blitzes aren't just picked up by the halfback.
Pariah said:That's why it's a trade that's a agreed upon "in principle."
I gotta tell ya, I'm really disappointed to see Shelton go. I'd rather have him than Henry at this point. The one offseason it seems that RBs are growing on trees and we gotta go trade for one. Ugh.
But, that aside, I think this is one of the most equitable trades I've ever seen in football. Henry is a helluva back--I think he'll tear it up here. I'm excited to have him. The Bills are getting one heck of a football player, too. He'll be missed.
chickenhead said:We specifically need a 1500 yard rusher, not a blitz blocker.
jerryp said:Now, how did you turn that into Henry is a great pickup for this team? Oh that's right, you weren't interested in debating why Buffalo got better, you wanted to argue because you don't think Henry is a good pick up.
This is where you respond with FO is total garbage because their rankings don't match your mental rankings and you restate all your opinions of Henry as if that invalidates what I've said about the Bills defense carrying the load for that team.
That is one odd analogy. I think it wins the "odd analogy of the day" award.CardinalChris said:Anybody watched Bledsoe play? It's about as hard to sack the man as it would have been for Rocky to catch that chicken if it was dead. The guy is a rock and his internal clock is about a second too slow.
Pariah said:That is one odd analogy. I think it wins the "odd analogy of the day" award.
Russ Smith said:Cut and pasted from the message board on the Bills official site. I hope I'm wrong but I've had a gut feeling on henry ever since his name started coming up and it just tells me he's going to be a disappointment.
Lett me tell ya something cardsfan, Travis will be a good back for ya until he has the stlightest bit of competition, then you will see the same player that we have seen this year. Instead of rizing to the ocasion and playing harder, he will poute on the sidelines make comments such as "This year is just a showcase for teams next year", "If im not the starter i dont want to be here.", "Lets get this strait, I didnt loose my job it was given away", "I definetly wont be here next year.", "Im a top five back in this league"(this said after failing to reach the 100 yard mark in five attempts). OH ya i almost forgot, he will slip on huge downs, run the wrong way on others, fumble the ball at key times, then say his job was given away.
I really used to like Travis Henry untill this year, he missed camps that everyone else was at to learn the new offense........let me say this again, he missed camps that EVERY OTHER PLAYER ON OUR TEAM WAS AT TO LEARN THE NEW OFFENSE!!!!! Then proceeded to make these coments, and then proceeded to play horrible. I wonder why he ran the wrong way against the pats when bledsoe got lit up and fumbled the ball, wait why were we in fourth down, oh ya cause he tripped over his own two feet on third down with a hole big enough for a truck to run through and pick up the first.