Heroes: Season 3 "Villains" (SPOILERS! Beware)

[earthsci]

However...

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How is that Speedy-Girl was Johnny-on-the-spot? I realize that she moves faster than the speed of sound, but was she just sitting there in the office waiting for Hiro to foul up?

Hiro asked that very question so I wouldn't really view it as a hole.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Hiro asked that very question so I wouldn't really view it as a hole.

Indeed, but I don't recall a viable answer having been given.

I still view Hiro's storyline as the "weak-link" coming out of the first two episodes content-wise.

Nevertheless, I will be patient and see how it plays out.

 

[Red Hawk]

I am beginning to think this show has jumped the shark.
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My words exactly.

I've seen this before. It was called the 4400 and it wasn't that good.

how many "the end of the world" scenarios can they use before it becomes a joke.

Answer: 2.

Almost as bad as "Prison Break" with no prison.

 

[Chaplin]

Season 1 was fantastic. Season 2 was average at best. Season 3 has completely jumped the shark. Absolutely too much going on, lame story lines, idiotic choices by Hiro / Peter, Mohinder figuring out the "formula" in a lame way, Mohinder "injecting" himself with super powers, Sylar's mommy issues. Aghhh.....

I will keep watching because I love the premise of this show, but I'm starting to have my doubts about where everything is going.

I tend to agree. The first episode was average at best. I think it was more expectations that drew Mike to have a "MIND-NUMBINGLY GOOD" reaction to it. I thought the 2nd episode was far better, but that's not saying much.

Several characters run around and cry and complain that their secrets might get out that there are people with powers. Hmm. Seems to me EVERYONE has powers, and now the people who DIDN'T have powers seem to have or will have powers! Ando's greatest asset was that he didn't have any powers.

And don't get me started on Suresh. A guy who does absolutely nothing except shoot a guy in the eye in 2 years, suddenly, in the space of 90 minutes, becomes The Fly?

Don't get me wrong, the premise of a "justice league" scenario of both heroes and villains is a pretty cool idea, except for the fact that only 1 or 2 of the heroes and none of the villains are likable. Even Sylar, who had a strange fascination as being so bad, has become uninteresting. At least Peter has a goal, however dumb the execution of it is.

Highlight for me was Veronica Mars and Weevil being reunited.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I tend to agree. The first episode was average at best. I think it was more expectations that drew Mike to have a "MIND-NUMBINGLY GOOD" reaction to it. I thought the 2nd episode was far better, but that's not saying much.

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Why is my name brought up?

It was good, it was 1000 times better than last season and I like where it's going. I don't like Suresh or Nicky/Tracy, but at least Suresh isn't staring inside a microscope again all season.

 

[arthurracoon]

Highlight for me was Veronica Mars and Weevil being reunited.

Wow. Was that weevil? Cool

 

[asudevil83]

while being mildly interesting, i really thought that the opening season episode was aweful. the producers still either have no idea where they are taking the show, or have an idea but have no clue how to get there.

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my BIGGEST problem is Morhindor. he a.) discovers the root cause of these mutations in a matter of seconds after Maya says something simple. It took his father how many years, and himself how long with nothing? and b.) he would rather NOT cure the mutations after spending 2 seasons trying to carry out his father's work.....and instead decides that he wants to have super powers. RIDICULOUS.

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another is Peter. why the hell couldnt he just go back in time a few minutes earlier and tell his brother, "hey bro, i'm from the future, dont tell anyone about us. it makes things crazy." was his first thought really, "i need to kill my brother"?

i also have a feeling that this time travel thing, where we fix the past is going to be a HUGE focus this season. it was already ingrained into our heads a ton in the first episode

and i hope to god the whole Hiro not trusting his friend thing wears off. that is lame.

 

[JS22]

Just saw the preview for the next episode. I may stop watching this show completely.

Sylar suddenly joins forces with HRG? To top it off, they felt the need to cheese him up with a new suit and zany one-liners. "Better make that decaff."

 

[Zeno]

I liked this weeks episode better than last week. What exactly is Mama Petrelli's power?

Where is Mikah's (Micah?) cousin? Best new character from last season and no mention of her.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Just saw the preview for the next episode. I may stop watching this show completely.

Sylar suddenly joins forces with HRG? To top it off, they felt the need to cheese him up with a new suit and zany one-liners. "Better make that decaff."

They did this perfect. Comic book perfect. Easily will be the best story in the upcoming season.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I liked this weeks episode better than last week. What exactly is Mama Petrelli's power?

Where is Mikah's (Micah?) cousin? Best new character from last season and no mention of her.

She said something about seeing the future in her dreams.

This last episode was outstanding. Top notch really.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

I'm left befuddled after last night's episode. I understand that Kring & Co. may be trying to reinvent the series a bit, but this season is lacking a true sense of direction.

It's fallen prey to "Krispy Kreme" syndrome, in that it's oversaturated itself. Too many individual storylines, yet no cohesion.

 

[Treefiddy]

They did this perfect. Comic book perfect. Easily will be the best story in the upcoming season.

I agree. Syler and HRG pairing up was my favorite part of the episode.

Syler's always been one of my favorites, not sure why people bag on him so much.

I was extremely dissapointed they brought Nikki back, but hopefully the recent developments with Traci will bring about a different character that is more tolerable.

Less Claire please.

Speed up Parkman's storyline.

Get rid of "Speed Girl" ASAP!

Who cares about Surresh and Mya? I thought Mya died last season anyway, so I was really dissapointed when she showed up again.

At this point, I'd be happy to watch the series if they only had HRG, Adam, Hiro (only if they can get him back on track with Adam), Parkman, Momma Petrelli, Nathan, Peter, and Sylar.

 

[nashman]

Yeah I liked it think they could trim some of the fat so to speak. Peter, Sylar, HRG, Nathan, Parkman, Hiro, Adam would be more than good enough for me as they seem to be the main characters. Speedgirl, Nikki, Ando,Mya, even Mohinder are all just kind of lame at this point.

 

[Chaplin]

Ando needs something better to do. He's the only character in the entire show that doesn't have a power. They need to exploit that. I like that he's starting to want to not be in Hiro's shadow, but I hope that doesn't lead him to be a villain. And with a power, which would be LAME.

I will say, however, that last night's episode has saved the show for me--at least for a little while. Although they keep showing this evil Claire thing in the trailers, but in the show itself, there hasn't been anything to foreshadow it.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Ando needs something better to do. He's the only character in the entire show that doesn't have a power. They need to exploit that. I like that he's starting to want to not be in Hiro's shadow, but I hope that doesn't lead him to be a villain. And with a power, which would be LAME.

I will say, however, that last night's episode has saved the show for me--at least for a little while. Although they keep showing this evil Claire thing in the trailers, but in the show itself, there hasn't been anything to foreshadow it.

Well Ando obviously has a power in the future via the formula that gives everyone powers (the current alternate future). His jealousy probably leads to an alliance with the fallen doctor Suresh, upon where he looks to exceed everything Hiro has accomplished.

 

[Chaplin]

Well Ando obviously has a power in the future via the formula that gives everyone powers (the current alternate future). His jealousy probably leads to an alliance with the fallen doctor Suresh, upon where he looks to exceed everything Hiro has accomplished.

My guess is that it's much to easy to assume that Ando becomes a villain. Heroes usually tries to do things you don't expect (we've seen that already this season), so I'm thinking that maybe there's something else at work and Ando is the one who's actually doing the good deed and not Hiro -- either with or without Hiro realizing it. I'm interested to see where that goes, I just don't like the idea of Ando getting a power.

 

[Covert Rain]

I had a huge problem with Sylar just being let out. The Sylar that we know would have killed everyone the moment that cell door was open. The old Sylar pops back up when he kills that guy in the bank. Then all of the sudden shows enough restraint to allow them to take him back and put him back in his cell? That is not Sylar.

I thought the writing was sort of lacking in the handling of this situation. There is no way they would have gotten him back without some sort of restraint or possible subversion by another with powers.

Also, I thought they indicated that Level 5 was the most dangerous of the villains. Sylar was not on level 5. The level 5 guys seemed pretty average and not much of a threat. They seemed nowhere near as dangerous as Sylar. I might have misunderstood but something didn't appear to add up here.

The writing on Heroes seems to be both eratic and having very little direction this season so far. I was beyond excited for this season to start but so far I am dissapointed. It's still early though.

 

[Chaz]

I had a huge problem with Sylar just being let out. The Sylar that we know would have killed everyone the moment that cell door was open. The old Sylar pops back up when he kills that guy in the bank. Then all of the sudden shows enough restraint to allow them to take him back and put him back in his cell? That is not Sylar.

When he went back in the Haitian was there but I know what you are saying.

That is the problem when people have all these powers. When they use them and when they don't becomes erratic. The only thing I can think of is the Momma Petrelli's mind games are working to some extent.

Then again if the Haitian was there couldn't Sylar be killed then even with Claire's power?

 

[Zeno]

Did the Haitians powers evolve at some point? I thought he only erased memories.

Wasn't he with HRG when they confronted Nathan in season 1 when Nathan took off into the sky like a bullet?

Maybe I am remembering wrong...

 

[nashman]

The Haitian has always been able to make people powers go away when he is around since the very beginning thats how HRG and him were able to catch these guys.

 

[Covert Rain]

The Haitian has always been able to make people powers go away when he is around since the very beginning thats how HRG and him were able to catch these guys.

Hence there is my biggest problem with the writing so far. No way no how would they have let Sylar out without the Haitian around to corral him in case he got out of hand.

I will buy the argument that maybe "off camera" the Haitian was called to the bank after Sylar went....well Sylar. However, I still don't buy that Sylar would not have killed everyone in site the second he was let out of his cell.

Also, was it just level 5 that was free or all the cells? If not, then the entire facility was probably full of people that Sylar could have killed and stolen powers from. At the very least, the facility "employs" lots of those with powers that were probably on premesis. That would have been WAY to tempting for Sylar to pass up.

You could make the arugment that maybe Sylar didn't want to go near Elle and thought maybe she was still around. However, Ma Petreli cast her off which also seemed like an extremely stupid move on her part with the Haitian not around.

The writers need to get this in gear.

 

[Chaz]

Did the Haitians powers evolve at some point? I thought he only erased memories.

Wasn't he with HRG when they confronted Nathan in season 1 when Nathan took off into the sky like a bullet?

Maybe I am remembering wrong...

Yea, I don't really know any more. I seemed to make sense at one time.
It seems like the more we know the more confusing the whole thing is.

 

[DWKB]

I'm going to be looking for a continuity issue with Peter in the upcoming episodes. Peter's power has been to absorb others by touching them/being near them. Seems like being inside someone else's body would be enough to absorb their power. so now does Peter have the super dangerous shockwave power as well? Was he not able to absorb the fear into strength power the other dude possessed while he was inside shockwave dude's body?

 

[Louis]

But while in that guy's body he didn't use any of his own powers. So my guess would be he did not absorb those powers of the people he was near.