Giants - Who can say with a straight face that the Giants and the Mara's are running that team competently? Oh gee, hire a head coach, he takes you to the playoffs, and a few games into his 2nd year the inmates are running the asylum. Guys are getting suspended left and right. Mutiny is afoot. Mara's are oblivious, to the point where their franchise QB with 2 Superbowl rings is benched in a power play of who is asserting control. Then they fire him after 2 seasons, 1 of which was in the playoffs.
Oh also they seem to be missing Tom Coughlin, whose team he helps oversee is now in the AFC championship. Also remember Coughlin felt so betrayed by the Mara's, he wouldn't shake Mara's hand.
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(That and the players who rubbed McAdoo the wrong way, will be there to potentially do the same thing with Shurmur, especially after Dorsey gave all the mutineers a clean slate).
Colts- Irsay, no need to say more.
Titans- Fire their head coach after 2 seasons, both of which were 9-7, they made the playoffs. A rumor comes out that he's fired if he doesn't win a playoff game. They win the playoff game. Ownership chimes in with support. Lose the next one. Then we are supposed to believe that he was going to get an extension, but instead was fired because he would not make changes on the staff. What a crapshow. If ownership wanted staff changes after a playoff win and two 9-7 seasons, they're idiots. If not, they still fired a coach after two years, both winning seasons, and a playoff victory, which makes them idiots.
2 of the 3 places people are concerned about beating us just proved they are franchises in disarray. That and to expect they could fire you in 2 years, even if you make the playoffs. Great looking jobs.
You weren't clearly wrong.
Nothing has happened but Nagy being named head coach. Everything else is pure speculation.
We don't know who our first choice was. We don't. We don't know if it was Shurmur. We don't know if Munchak was 2nd. We don't know squat but what the media has been telling us, and their track record isn't good. It's all speculation. Before Shurmur or Munchak supposedly made up their minds we were told of our interest in Wilks and Flores.
All we can go by is that we interviewed a bunch of guys, and a couple of guys with links elsewhere decided to go with what they know and/or offer in hand. Did we get all upset that Gruden didn't consider us? No, because we understood the linkages with the Raiders. Well, same thing can be said of Patricia and Munchak. Who knows with Shurmur, but he's just one guy, a guy who may have received an offer when we probably didn't extend one.
We've obviously been waiting to talk to people still in the playoffs.
We cast a wide net, and now that a couple of them are supposedly off the market, they were our guys and we suck, and we're not attractive, so on and so forth. We're on our 3rd or 4th option.
Perhaps. But there is absolutely no evidence besides gossip from various sources.
We're also having selective memory here. We've been told from this gossip that we loved Shurmur, Munchak, Flores, Wilks... maybe even a few more. But apparently the only ones that matter are the guys who have supposedly come to agreements. Not any of these other guys.
Nothing has happened. People are just so scared of the Cardinals becoming the Cardinals of old, people are already claiming it's true and looking for reason why it is true.
All in all I'm not concerned with being the top choice, because for each individual candidate there will be different metrics. We can't be on top for everyone, not unless we had a perfect track record. We don't.
The Giants, Titans, and Colts over the past few weeks to years have shown alot of idiocy and lack of competence. As I laid out above, no one should consider these franchises well run.
You're right money talks, and the Cardinals, are likely being true to their word. They likely haven't offered ANYONE a deal yet.
They are going through their process. Other teams are desperate, badly run, or know exactly who they want (tunnel vision or not). We don't.
There's nothing wrong with that. If anything, it's more honest to say we don't know, then for some of these other teams to pretend they know but likely haven't done much due diligence. Being honest to themselves and being open to seeing what's out there is a humble approach that can pay dividends.
As an individual, if someone is offering you a job, and another one isn't, bird in the hand. That doesn't mean we're undesirable, because it isn't an even choice. One place you have a job offer, the other you don't. You can't then claim as a franchise we're less desirable for whatever reason. If we both had equal offers on the table, and they chose someone else, THEN we would be less desirable, if of course the other team doesn't have some sort of ties to them (and/or familial reasons).
So it gets into the whole, are we even trying to judge this through an appropriate lens? Most situations aren't equal, but we're trying to judge them all as equal. Someone supposedly lands someone first and guess what, there might be nothing actually actionable by that to judge whether or not we are more/less desirable. Let alone was that even the guy we prefer?
Everything by our media and the media in general are guesses. Jurecki says this... but it's a guess. Gambo says this, it's a guess. ESPN says this, it's a guess.
But hey this is a message board, so of course this stuff is going to happen, but let's not get inside our own heads a bit too much and stroke negative emotions. It's not worth it.
We indeed could come out of this with the best match possible for us and whether it's first or last or anywhere in between doesn't matter.... except of course to us fans who are frustrated. We need to just hang in there.
