I'm so upset. This staff has to be fired

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Now Chopper, you're a reasonable guy.

Was that Wilkes out there dropping passes and missing field goals?

I'm not saying he's a good coach by any means.

But I AM saying that, whether you guys like it or not, McCoy called a good enough game today to get the W, and several players just didn't execute (that group does not include Rosen, who was a revelation today).

Oh it took a village to lose this game. But those drops had already occurred when the three predictable runs into a loaded defensive front were called. And those three runs were called knowing they would likely (a) not allow the cardinals to run out the clock, (b) result in a 40+ yard fg attempt - no gimme for his kicker, and (c) give them the ball in good field position if Dawson missed. And he still called those three predictable runs into a loaded defensive front. To excuse him when his play calling factored into the loss is looking for excuses for a failure.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Yawn... we in the middle of the 2018 season readess of your spin game

Just stating facts.

 

[outcent13]

Could Byron Leftwich call the offensive plays?

 

[Cheesebeef]

At the end of what I think will be a maddening season... one where we will be STOKED watching Rosen advance and furious watching the rest of the team hold him back... you blow out the coaches and Keim.

Keim is the one who put this coaching staff together. Keim is the one who continually brings back terrible Kickers. Keim is the reason there are no WRs on the field to catch beautifully thrown balls. Keim is the reason we have a Safety and DE playing linebacker. The bucks stops there. This coaching staff is a joke. The personnel is brutal. Josh is a future stud... unless all of the above kills his spirit or gets him killed on the field.

Josh looks too damn special to waste another coaching staff from Keim. This team outside of Josh is an embarrassment almost everywhere else and if all that wasn't bad enough, Keim HIMSELF was embarrassing right before the season with his extreme DUI.

Thanks for fleecing the Raiders out of that pick and thank God the Bills took Allen before Keim could.

That's all.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Oh it took a village to lose this game. But those drops had already occurred when the three predictable runs into a loaded defensive front were called. And those three runs were called knowing they would likely (a) not allow the cardinals to run out the clock, (b) result in a 40+ yard fg attempt - no gimme for his kicker, and (c) give them the ball in good field position if Dawson missed. And he still called those three predictable runs into a loaded defensive front. To excuse him when his play calling factored into the loss is looking for excuses for a failure.

Again, not saying the last three play calls were were good. But hindsight is 20/20 Ouchie (did I use that phrase correctly sir? , and the play calling on that drive was good enough to get us 50 yards down the field into field goal range. Right?

Giving it to your best offensive player three times in a row? Not the worst thing in the world either.

If Rosen would have taken a sack, or thrown a pick on a pass-play call, you guys would be screaming bloody murder about not protecting the football, which is exactly what they did.

We should have won this game by maybe 10 points, but given the chance, Wilkes put it on the shoulders of his veteran kicker. Kicking at home, in an dome, straight away, from about 45 yards. Dawson makes that kick 9 times out 10 in practice. Wilkes played the percentages, and Dawson failed.

I'm not excusing the failure Ouchie. I'm assigning it to the players, who bear more responsibility for this loss than the coaches. Is that a completely unreasonable take sir?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Again, not saying the last three play calls were were good. But hindsight is 20/20 Ouchie (did I use that phrase correctly sir? , and the play calling on that drive was good enough to get us 50 yards down the field into field goal range. Right?

Giving it to your best offensive player three times in a row? Not the worst thing in the world either.

If Rosen would have taken a sack, or throw a pick on a pass-play call, you guys would be screaming bloody murder about not protecting the football, which is exactly what they did.

We should have won this game by maybe 10 points, but given the chance, Wilkes put it on the shoulders of his veteran kicker. Kicking at home, in an dome, straight away, from about 45 yards. Dawson makes that kick 9 times out 10 in practice. Wilkes played the percentages, and Dawson failed.

I'm not excusing the failure Ouchie. I'm assigning it to the players, who bear more responsibility for this loss than the coaches. Is that a completely unreasonable take sir?

It’s not 20-20 hindsight when on first down cheese and I looked at each other and said “those idiots are going to run it right into the stacked front three straight times. With one timeout and the 2 minute clock stoppage they needed one more first down to kill the clock.” Cheese then astutely said “and it’s not like a 45 yard fg is a gimme for Dawson.” In other words cheese and I knew what they were going to do before they did it, and we knew how they were going to blow it. And they did. That’s not hindsight. That’s foresight. And this isn’t bragging because I’m willing to bet the same exact thoughts went through the minds of a good many of the fans on ASFN and in the stadium (including my father who said the same thing to my cousin before it unfolded). So your thoughts aren’t necessarily unreasonable, but they are letting the coaches off the hook when they absolutely 100% contributed in a big way to the loss.

 

[iLLmatiC]

At the end of what I think will be a maddening season... one where we will be STOKED watching Rosen advance and furious watching the rest of the team hold him back... you blow out the coaches and Keim.

Keim is the one who put this coaching staff together. Keim is the one who continually brings back terrible Kickers. Keim is the reason there are no WRs on the field to catch beautifully thrown balls. Keim is the reason we have a Safety and DE playing linebacker. The bucks stops there. This coaching staff is a joke. The personnel is brutal. Josh is a future stud... unless all of the above kills his spirit or gets him killed on the field.

Josh looks too damn special to waste another coaching staff from Keim. This team outside of Josh is an embarrassment almost everywhere else and if all that wasn't bad enough, Keim HIMSELF was embarrassing right before the season with his extreme DUI.

Thanks for fleecing the Raiders out of that pick and thank God the Bills took Allen before Keim could.

That's all.

They were probably all disappointed Josh Allen wasnt there. Once again fate saves our front office from picking the wrong player.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Never in my life have I seen more scared play calling

Denny Green in 2006 says hold my coffin.

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[Cheesebeef]

Again, not saying the last three play calls were were good. But hindsight is 20/20 Ouchie (did I use that phrase correctly sir? , and the play calling on that drive was good enough to get us 50 yards down the field into field goal range. Right?

Giving it to your best offensive player three times in a row? Not the worst thing in the world either.

If Rosen would have taken a sack, or throw a pick on a pass-play call, you guys would be screaming bloody murder about not protecting the football, which is exactly what they did.

Don't tell us what we'd say. It's beyond insulting for you to assume we'd think idiotically. Keep YOUR projections out of OUR arguments. YOU might have been saying that, but YOU also were terrified Josh would get destroyed. We WANT Josh to have the ball whether he leads the team to W or makes the mistake because HE HAS TO DO BOTH OF THOSE TO GROW AS A QB.

Seriously... don't tell us we'd be doing anything. You continually demonstrate you have no clue what we're thinking, so spare us garbage like the above.

 

[SunsTzu]

It’s not 20-20 hindsight when on first down cheese and I looked at each other and said “those idiots are going to run it right into the stacked front three straight times.

Not to mention that even with the benefit of hindsight Wilks would have done the same thing again.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Don't tell us what we'd say. It's beyond insulting for you to assume we'd think idiotically. Keep YOUR projections out of OUR arguments. YOU might have been saying that, but YOU also were terrified Josh would get destroyed. We WANT Josh to have the ball whether he leads the team to W or makes the mistake because HE HAS TO DO BOTH OF THOSE TO GROW AS A QB.

Seriously... don't tell us we'd be doing anything. You continually demonstrate you have no clue what we're thinking, so spare us garbage like the above.

You're right, I really shouldn't question your omnipotent football knowledge Cheese. You're probably the smartest guy on the board (well maybe Ouchie, then you). It's a wonder you two aren't running an NFL franchise.

Yes, I was wrong about rushing the rookie in.

Have a nice evening.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You're right, I really shouldn't question your omnipotent football knowledge Cheese. You're probably the smartest guy on the board (well maybe Ouchie, then you). It's a wonder you two aren't running an NFL franchise.

Jesus. I'm just saying DON'T PUT ARGUMENTS INTO OUR OWN. How freaking hard is that to understand?

Yes, I was wrong about rushing the rookie in.

Have a nice evening.

Instead of just saying "you're right... I shouldn't assume what you would have said", you decide to keep trolling.

Good form as usual.

 

[cardsunsfan]

I agree, I was thinking the same exact thing.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not to mention that even with the benefit of hindsight Wilks would have done the same thing again.

RIGHT?!? Holy crap thank you for reminding us of that fact!!!

 

[Shane]

In case anyone missed it the Rookie kicker we cut??? Matt Mccrane kicked a game Winner for the raiders on the dirt in OT.....

Well we know what Dawson did....

 

[unseenaz]

In case anyone missed it the Rookie kicker we cut??? Matt Mccrane kicked a game Winner for the raiders on the dirt in OT.....

Well we know what Dawson did....

he also missed 2 today

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Wilks in his presser

 

[Shane]

he also missed 2 today

BUT he made it when it really mattered... Something Dawson has failed miserably at while here

 

[Cheesebeef]

Wilks in his presser

I'm hereby changing his name. He shall now be dubbed:

COACH WILTS

 

[AZCB34]

Wilks will survive and see season 2. Only way he doesn't is if Keim gets sent packing

 

[Buckybird]

It’s not 20-20 hindsight when on first down cheese and I looked at each other and said “those idiots are going to run it right into the stacked front three straight times. With one timeout and the 2 minute clock stoppage they needed one more first down to kill the clock.” Cheese then astutely said “and it’s not like a 45 yard fg is a gimme for Dawson.” In other words cheese and I knew what they were going to do before they did it, and we knew how they were going to blow it. And they did. That’s not hindsight. That’s foresight. And this isn’t bragging because I’m willing to bet the same exact thoughts went through the minds of a good many of the fans on ASFN and in the stadium (including my father who said the same thing to my cousin before it unfolded). So your thoughts aren’t necessarily unreasonable, but they are letting the coaches off the hook when they absolutely 100% contributed in a big way to the loss.

I said the same exact things to my other half! I knew we were going to choke this game away!

Several players let’s this team down today, Wilks let his players down with a scared mentality imo.

This defense has been getting thrashed ALL season & we play for a freaking FG & as you say a longggg FG. If we would’ve made it I had zero confidence this defense would’ve have keep them from scoring 7.

 

[Buckybird]

In case anyone missed it the Rookie kicker we cut??? Matt Mccrane kicked a game Winner for the raiders on the dirt in OT.....

Well we know what Dawson did....

And missed a GW before that

If he were a Cardinal we’d still be 0-4, it’s just the Cardinal way lol

John Lee
Neil O’Shankoghue
Steve Little
Phil Dawson
Grammatica
Jay Feely
Neil Rackers

 

[DeAnna]

I knew what they were going to do before they did it, and we knew how they were going to blow it. And they did. That’s not hindsight. That’s foresight. And this isn’t bragging because I’m willing to bet the same exact thoughts went through the minds of a good many of the fans on ASFN and in the stadium (including my father who said the same thing to my cousin before it unfolded). So your thoughts aren’t necessarily unreasonable, but they are letting the coaches off the hook when they absolutely 100% contributed in a big way to the loss.

Even I said 'uh oh, they're playing for a field goal and they'll miss it.' EVERYONE, and I mean everyone was pissed as they exited the stadium.

 

[Chopper0080]

Now Chopper, you're a reasonable guy.

Was that Wilkes out there dropping passes and missing field goals?

I'm not saying he's a good coach by any means.

But I AM saying that, whether you guys like it or not, McCoy called a good enough game today to get the W, and several players just didn't execute (that group does not include Rosen, who was a revelation today).

The team and how they execute are a reflection of their head coach. We have been unprepared, and poor in situational football. This lack of attention to details is never an isolated issue. It bleeds over into other areas. Penalties, turnovers, and dropped balls. It is all on Wilks and the culture he creates. He created this and is accountable to it.

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[Jake6233]

And missed a GW before that

If he were a Cardinal we’d still be 0-4, it’s just the Cardinal way lol

John Lee
Neil O’Shankoghue
Steve Little
Phil Dawson
Grammatica
Jay Feely
Neil Rackers

Chris Jacke was clutch at least.