Is Geno Smith worthy of a top 10 pick?

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IMO Geno Smith has all of the physical tools you want in a QB which warrants him a top 10 selection because QB is the most important on the field. I don't believe he is the best QB in this class and I was really dissapointed he couldn't do more against better competition with the weapons he had on offense. Reminds me of Barkley in the way he didn't do more with top talent to work with.

I wouldn't take him that high, but I can't blame a team who needs a QB for doing so.
 

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If you don't like Geno smith, then you don't like any of these qb's. we absolutely must take a qb. He'll might need two of them. I think Barkley, Smith, Wilson, Jones are all in play.
 

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blah blah blah blah blah Skelton. blah blah blah blah blah Kolb. blah blah blah blah blah Smith. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, Fitzgerald.
 

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Me wonders which QB Haley or Horton would prefer. I bet Horton is a Geno guy and Haley likes the bulldog Wilson.
 

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If you don't like Geno smith, then you don't like any of these qb's. we absolutely must take a qb. He'll might need two of them. I think Barkley, Smith, Wilson, Jones are all in play.

I don't like any of this years quarterbacks and if the current front office are the ones making the decisions I'll have no faith in whichever QB they draft.
 

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the QB to watch in the Pinstripe bowl is Nassib. Pro Football Weekly named him the best NFL ready QB.
 

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the QB to watch in the Pinstripe bowl is Nassib. Pro Football Weekly named him the best NFL ready QB.

I did read that earlier. He ran 3 different offenses in 4 yrs. It may have been 4 in 3. I know that Syracuse scrapped their old offense 2 weeks before their opener, and he still had a record setting season. He just kept getting better as the season progressed. Also, very clutch late in games. Completed 64% of his passes. Good size, pretty mobile, makes good decisions. I think he can be nabbed in the 2nd round.
 
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the QB to watch in the Pinstripe bowl is Nassib. Pro Football Weekly named him the best NFL ready QB.
I think he's the most likely to rise and be drafted earlier than expected. I doubt he gets to the draft positions of Gabbert, Locker, or Ponder but I wouldn't be surprised to see him off the board in the 20's.

Like PA has mentioned, he played in a pro style offense with a pro coach, he's a 3 year starter that has improved every year, and he definitely looks like his best football is in front of him. I could easily see him off the board before Barkley.
 

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I think he's the most likely to rise and be drafted earlier than expected. I doubt he gets to the draft positions of Gabbert, Locker, or Ponder but I wouldn't be surprised to see him off the board in the 20's.

Like PA has mentioned, he played in a pro style offense with a pro coach, he's a 3 year starter that has improved every year, and he definitely looks like his best football is in front of him. I could easily see him off the board before Barkley.

you beat me to the punch

this is almost like a Ryan Tannyhill situation: a guy that only scouts were likely looking at prior to the season, and as the draft came closer started to steadily rise up the charts. Tannyhill at this point last year was pretty much considered a 2nd round guy
 

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Smith and Barkley are rated in the mid 20s by both Kiper & McShay. It's early but it looks like either would be a reach where the Cardinals are drafting. Take a defensive player or an offensive lineman in the first and get the QB in the second round like what the Bengals did with Andy Dalton.
 

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I think he's the most likely to rise and be drafted earlier than expected. I doubt he gets to the draft positions of Gabbert, Locker, or Ponder but I wouldn't be surprised to see him off the board in the 20's.

Like PA has mentioned, he played in a pro style offense with a pro coach, he's a 3 year starter that has improved every year, and he definitely looks like his best football is in front of him. I could easily see him off the board before Barkley.

Barkley is going to go in the top 10. Cards will most likely take him.
I haven't seen Nassib so you won't get my expert opinion, :D
 

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I did read that earlier. He ran 3 different offenses in 4 yrs. It may have been 4 in 3. I know that Syracuse scrapped their old offense 2 weeks before their opener, and he still had a record setting season. He just kept getting better as the season progressed. Also, very clutch late in games. Completed 64% of his passes. Good size, pretty mobile, makes good decisions. I think he can be nabbed in the 2nd round.

It would be nice to get Nassib in the 2nd.

But of course it's us, so someone will jump right before us and snatch him.
 

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I think he's the most likely to rise and be drafted earlier than expected. I doubt he gets to the draft positions of Gabbert, Locker, or Ponder but I wouldn't be surprised to see him off the board in the 20's.

Like PA has mentioned, he played in a pro style offense with a pro coach, he's a 3 year starter that has improved every year, and he definitely looks like his best football is in front of him. I could easily see him off the board before Barkley.

If he shows well in the bowl game and post season workouts, I would be ok with the Cardinals taking him in the first round. I don't believe he should be taken that high, and I would prefer the Cards moved back 10 pick or so, add picks and then take him, but I will not fault this team for reaching on a QB in this draft. I do however hold the right for blasting them if they take the wrong one ala K9's Arian Foster arguement.
 

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I liked Nassib as a Junior and to start this season. Then I saw him in person against Louisville @ Syracuse. He's a gamer. Stood in the pocket and took some real big hits
 

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It doesn't look like a banner draft for elite QB's, and we'd be ill-advised to waste a high pick by overreaching for anyone not deemed a sure star.

The tea leaves are leaning slightly toward Kolb returning as as a starter next year. If so, the best possible scenario would involve Hoyer, as #2, earning the right to push Kolb for the starting role (with one of the 2 clearly emerging as "the man" and our cherry-picking a QB in rounds 2 or 3 who clearly has the potential to take charge of the offense and lead the team to the playoffs a year or two down the road).

I realize this sounds eerily like Kolb - Skelton - Lindley, but the hoped-for presumption would be that (1) Kolb doesn't kill us, (2) Hoyer is better than Skelton and (3) our drafted QB is better than Lindley.

I also would be loathe to count on any QB drafted after the 4th round to represent any future solution. (Sure, we could get lucky and come up with a late-round gem, but to exclusively base our QB strategy on that thread of hope would be pretty risky).
 
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I don't think any of the senior QB's coming out this year are top-20 worthy.

Of the Junior options....... Maybe Murray is a 10 to 20 prospect.

That's it dude.

Take an pass rusher or O-lineman in the first. Then MAYBE a 2nd round QB if one is there.
 

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Hell no, the Cardinals should NOT draft a QB this year IMO. I would like to see the team get Teo, get back into the first round to draft OL, then grab OL with next two picks as well.
 

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In his first Mock, McShay has Geno going #8 to the Cards, as the first QB drafted. Kiper won't have a Mock until mid-January, but said, today, he likes the NC State QB as his top QB.
 

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It doesn't look like a banner draft for elite QB's, and we'd be ill-advised to waste a high pick by overreaching for anyone not deemed a sure star.

The tea leaves are leaning slightly toward Kolb returning as as a starter next year. If so, the best possible scenario would involve Hoyer, as #2, earning the right to push Kolb for the starting role (with one of the 2 clearly emerging as "the man" and our cherry-picking a QB in rounds 2 or 3 who clearly has the potential to take charge of the offense and lead the team to the playoffs a year or two down the road).

I realize this sounds eerily like Kolb - Skelton - Lindley, but the hoped-for presumption would be that (1) Kolb doesn't kill us, (2) Hoyer is better than Skelton and (3) our drafted QB is better than Lindley.

I also would be loathe to count on any QB drafted after the 4th round to represent any future solution. (Sure, we could get lucky and come up with a late-round gem, but to exclusively base our QB strategy on that thread of hope would be pretty risky).

After the Redskins took RGIII last season, they had another one fall to them in the 4th Rd. I believe it was, and they nabed the Mich. St. kid Kirk Cousins. He also has good potential in this league.

I wouldn't mind seeing us do that in this draft, where someone like Mike Glennon or Tyler Bray fell to an area in the draft where the reward vs. risk was tremendous. This after taking one of the better prospect by round 2 or later in round 1 with a trade back or up.

This could be a good strategy (trading back) if they're targeting either T. Wilson, Nassib or Barkley later in the 1st and don't care which one they draft as they might grade out very close.

This would give them an extra pick at least to pull that trigger on a 2nd QB pick if they don't think Hoyer will stick and haven't signed another vet by draft day.
It could hedge their bet somewhat if anything happened to the 1st Rd. pick.

The other strategy they could use is, stay put take the best non-QB prospect on their board 1st pick and hope like heck someone they;'re high on makes it to them in the 2nd RD. Or don't risk it and trade up using a 3rd or 4th Rd. pick and get they guy you want. That'd also work. But you better be sure he's the guy you really want and is a pretty good distance away from your next highest rated QB.
 
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In his first Mock, McShay has Geno going #8 to the Cards, as the first QB drafted. Kiper won't have a Mock until mid-January, but said, today, he likes the NC State QB as his top QB.
Also, they had Barkley dropping and goimg anhwhere from 25-45.

Smith is the only QB McShay had rated as a 1st rounder and that was like the #18 rated player.
 

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And who plays QB for us next season?

Kevin Kolb (with a renegotiated lower price contract), Matt Barkley & Brian Hoyer.

Of course you could substitute Barley's name with Tyler Wilson.

I think Geno Smith will be gone when we pick and the Cards will either take Barkley or Wilson.
 
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