Is it time to blow up the team?

[Irish]

I'm hearing radio reports that Amare has a deal from the Knicks. I'm not sure this is 100%, but the Knicks were obviously a threat to overpay for Amare.

Overall, I'm ready to accept that thet the Suns are not going to make the p;layoffs this season. If so, I'd rather see the team p;repare for 2012-13 after the lockout year.

Here are a few thought:

1. Trade Nash to Toronto. The Canadians treat him like a god and the Raptors need something to sustain interest when Bosh leaves. I'm not sure what we can get back, but Nash alone is not enough.

2. Trade Hill to a team he's like to go to. Ideally the deal would be mostly for a draft pick or two and a rookie contract ;player. The Suns have some cap space once Amare signs, so the deal dod not have to match salaries.

3. Trade J-Rch to a team with a lot of cap space. This will serve as a rental for a team that has the option of just treating him as an expiring contract.

I would not unload both J-Rich and Barbosa at the same time. With the team generally gutted, at least Leandro can score.

Baring some other deals, here's what we have:

Center - Lopez and Jones
Power Forward - Frye, Harrick, and Laveil
Small Forewad - Clark and Dudley
Shooting Uuard - Barbosa + somebody in trade
Point Guard - Dragic + min fee agent

IMHO, this is a lottery team but if they can get some picks at least they can make a start at rebuilding. .

 

[Bufalay]

lol

 

[SunsFanVegas]

Sarver won't trade Nash. If Nash is gone, he will have absolutely zero fans that will pay to watch that team play and Sarver's wallet will not allow that to happen. It's unfortunate, because I seriously doubt both Hill and Nash would have signed new deals if they had any indication what was about to happen after such a promising season. I'm sure they were both under the impression that Kerr was staying and would do all he could to keep Amare in Phoenix and keep most of the team together. I bet 'shock' was a word that was used by both of them when Kerr left.

 

[carey]

Are you drunk? And why can you never get Lawal right?

 

[Chaplin]

I don't know, but it's probably time to get a new keyboard.

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't know, but it's probably time to get a new keyboard.

 

[CatBoxBackFan]

I don't know, but it's probably time to get a new keyboard.

 

[Irish]

I don't know, but it's probably time to get a new keyboard.

I work from a laptop, although I've always had more than my share of typos.

As for the argument that Sarver won't do it because he'll lose fans,heI just decided to let go of the face of the franchies for a contract difference of $16 million. If he clears the decks, at least he can give an explanation of REALLY rebuilding. How does keeping Nash fit into that explanation?

 

[carey]

George, Amare is not the face of the franchise. Never was.

 

[Sunburn]

Never going to trade Nash unless Nash asks for a trade. Also, we have no more salary cap room, even with the departure of Amare, because we just used it all signing Frye and Warrick.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Agree with the board, Sarver isn't interested in rebuilding, Sarver wants to field a borderline playoff team for the short term. There is no way in hell he will take the attendance hit a full blown rebuild will require.

 

[Gaddabout]

Agree with the board, Sarver isn't interested in rebuilding, Sarver wants to field a borderline playoff team for the short term. There is no way in hell he will take the attendance hit a full blown rebuild will require.

Ironically, if he unloaded all the vets, he could probably turn a fair profit, because the young guys would end up winning about 40 games and be somewhat entertaining without costing much.

 

[Sunburn]

Ironically, if he unloaded all the vets, he could probably turn a fair profit, because the young guys would end up winning about 40 games and be somewhat entertaining without costing much.

You think our youngsters would take 40 games in the West? Eh, I gotta disagree with you there.

 

[tobiazz]

Agree with the board, Sarver isn't interested in rebuilding, Sarver wants to field a borderline playoff team for the short term. There is no way in hell he will take the attendance hit a full blown rebuild will require.

The ever-so-close Amare-to-GS trade would have been a rebuilding move and as far as I can tell it was not Sarver who thwarted that one. It seems like he is against rebuilding, but I don't think he's hell bent against rebuilding.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Ironically, if he unloaded all the vets, he could probably turn a fair profit, because the young guys would end up winning about 40 games and be somewhat entertaining without costing much.

You are absolutely right, the one thing Sarver underestimates is that Suns fans won't support a just okay team for long, we have been to this rodeo before with Tony Delk, Rodney Rodgers and Rex Chapman.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the francise over the next 3 years. I'll still be here though, but likely in a bad mood.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

The ever-so-close Amare-to-GS trade would have been a rebuilding move and as far as I can tell it was not Sarver who thwarted that one. It seems like he is against rebuilding, but I don't think he's hell bent against rebuilding.

I don't think deep down at the time the Suns felt they would have taken a step back with that trade though. I think the run this year even blindsided Sarver.

 

[overseascardfan]

Might as well ride out the Steve Nash tenure and watch the hopeful development of our young players Dudley, Lopez, Clark & Dragic.

 

[Mainstreet]

Might as well ride out the Steve Nash tenure and watch the hopeful development of our young players Dudley, Lopez, Clark & Dragic.

The show isn't over unless Nash and Grant Hill want to remain Suns. I'm still waiting for their approval of this mess. If not, more moves to come.

 

[mojorizen7]

Is it time to blow up the team?

It's too late for that.

 

[HooverDam]

Once the Suns realized they were going to lose Amare for nothing, they should've started blowing it up. Instead they signed Warrick and Frye to long deals so they can sell gullible fans on the idea that theyre trying their best to remain a contender. In reality the Suns will be a fringe playoff team but likely not bad enough to get high picks in the lottery. They'll be hamstrung financially and locked into a few years of mediocrity.

 

[bankybruce]

If the Knicks strike out in free agency, you might be able to trade Nash and Hill to the Knicks for Curry's expiring deal or/and Draft Picks and/or Trade Exception or some combination of all of them. That's only is you actually want to get rid of Nash.

 

[jagu]

If the Knicks strike out in free agency, you might be able to trade Nash and Hill to the Knicks for Curry's expiring deal or/and Draft Picks and/or Trade Exception or some combination of all of them. That's only is you actually want to get rid of Nash.

Why would you get rid of Nash? The guy can still play and I want him to retire in a Suns uniform. That plus the confidence he can give Dragic to grow into his replacement is worth it.

 

[bankybruce]

Why would you get rid of Nash? The guy can still play and I want him to retire in a Suns uniform. That plus the confidence he can give Dragic to grow into his replacement is worth it.

I did not say you would.

That's only is you actually want to get rid of Nash.

I said if you wanted to in response to the original post.

 

[dodie53]

Nash is not going to be traded,
he's the reason the suns sell tickets

 

[AzStevenCal]

Nash is not going to be traded,
he's the reason the suns sell tickets

Nah, the reason they sell tickets is money. Now is the perfect time to move Nash. He still has value and this team is going nowhere (well, nowhere good anyway). Take your lumps now, watch ticket sells dwindle (perhaps plummet) for a season and then let the lockout season put you back on track. You don't need Nash to survive a lockout year and what is the guy going to have left 2 years from now?

Steve