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Lets see everyones Cards 7 round drafts in one place, instead of a million threads. Put all your Cards on the table. Then check back later and see how badly we did.:thumbup:

The draft is just around the corner and not much is going to change from know till then. Make a what you want the Cards to do draft or what you think they will draft, heck make both if you want. Which ever way you want.

I did a what I think the Cards will do type draft, based on who they have interviewed been scouting at prodays and the senior bowl, interviews, and so on.

1. QB – Cutler - I changed this to Cutler from my original pick of young who I am now 99% certian that he will be gone and we pick Cutler over Sims after pressure form the front office on Denny.

2. LB – Abdul Hodge – Greens is still trying to find someone to give Hayes competition or replace him outright. I don’t think he or the coaching staff has yet to find confidence in him, especially since he was gone for a whole year. They tried for Hartwell last offseason, and tried for Bart Scott this offseason. They try again with Hodge to give Hayes real competition and the loser becomes depth, special teams, or tried out at WLB.

3. FS/CB/KR/PR/Gunner/Punt & FG Block team – Daniel Manning – Played at a smaller school, but shows some major skills as a DB. Projects to a FS since his coverage skills haven’t matured as a CB playing against lesser WR’s, but he has experience as a FS so the transition shouldn’t be all that great. Could give Griffith some competition or wait a year until his instincts and technique get up to NFL standards. But he will contribute immediately as a threat as a PR and KR man, as a Gunner on Kickoffs and punts, and finally as a punt and FG block teamer.

4. OL – Kevin Boothe – I know G & G have said they will pick a first day OL, but they could pass on the others guys picked and the difference between the guys that were left on the board and who would still be on the board in the 4th round is not a big drop off. Admittedly I don’t know much about him since he played at Cornell. All I know about him is on the research, a few highlights showed on him, and the talked surrounding him in various other locations. But I do know that we have been watching him and interviewing him, so he is on our board I would assume. So here is a link to an overview of him and seems to be the consensus on him. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/og/kevinboothe.html

5. DT – Tommy Jackson – Bowling ball, once he gets going you can’t stop him from moving. Typical Cards Slant NT guy that can take on multiple blockers. We interviewed him at the combine and his pro day. Vocal team leader, top intangibles, strong, tough, smart, technique. Not a pass rusher, some durability issues, not sideline to sideline type guy. Could be a good situational and rotational guy in a 4-5 DT rotation, one of those guys that every team needs.

6. OT – Toledo – Former TE with little experience at the OT spot. But he did very well for his first year and is a quick learner. It helps that he has great athletic ability from being a TE along with great feet, quick hands, and really long arms. Biggest upside out of any OL in the draft, but he may also be the biggest project to being a starter.

7. OL - Willie Nolon - Changed this pick from Gilbert Harris RB/FB. I think the Cards will use the 2nd day of the draft to stockpile on OL, and he gets 3 of them who can all play multiple positions.

UDFA's -

DB - Dawan Landry - Georgia Tech
DE/OLB - Frostee Rucker - USC
CB - Justin Wyatt - USC
OL - Chris Kuper - North Dakota
WR - Marques Colston - Hofstra
LB - James Anderson - Virginia Tech
TE - Quinn Sypniewski - Colorado
DT - Domata Peko - Michigan St.
 
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Allright....I'll play.

1--Cutler
2--Trueblood
3--Byrd
4--Marcus Hudson (or an Anwar Phillips....upside Secondary guy)
5--Schlegel
6--Skyler Green
7--Lentz

UFA-- Fifita, Jamar Williams
 
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UFA-- Fifita, Jamar Williams

Oh, you went one step further on me. Now I am going to have to do an edit.
 

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1-TE Vernon Davis
2-OT Marcus Neill
3-QB Omar Jacobs
4-FS BPA in that position
5- C BPA in that position
6-LB BPA in that position
7-WR BPA in that position
 

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joeshmo said:
Lets see everyones Cards 7 round drafts in one place, instead of a million threads. Put all your Cards on the table. Then check back later and see how badly we did.:thumbup:

The draft is just around the corner and not much is going to change from know till then. Make a what you want the Cards to do draft or what you think they will draft, heck make both if you want. Which ever way you want.

I did a what I think the Cards will do type draft, based on who they have interviewed been scouting at prodays and the senior bowl, interviews, and so on.

1. QB – Young – I think he falls, in fact I think Cutler falls as well maybe to #11, #13, or maybe even all the way to #17. All this talk about 3 QB’s going top 10 has me thinking it is to much hype and not enough substance, and it hasn’t happened since 1999. Almost happened in 2004, but didn’t. Green will take him, yeah he needs to win or will be fired, I don’t think that is the case unless he is completely horrible and goes top 10 again, which I don’t see happening. He has another year on his contract and I don’t the B’s will fire him and pay him the big amount of money to do nothing and have to may another coach on top of that. If anything it is Graves who is on the hot plate since he is working without a contract right now. But alas Green is the one that makes the picks and it is the B’s that approve it, and they give Green a lot of privilege when making his picks.

2. LB – Abdul Hodge – Greens is still trying to find someone to give Hayes competition or replace him outright. I don’t think he or the coaching staff has yet to find confidence in him, especially since he was gone for a whole year. They tried for Hartwell last offseason, and tried for Bart Scott this offseason. They try again with Hodge to give Hayes real competition and the loser becomes depth, special teams, or tried out at WLB.

3. FS/CB/KR/PR/Gunner/Punt & FG Block team – Daniel Manning – Played at a smaller school, but shows some major skills as a DB. Projects to a FS since his coverage skills haven’t matured as a CB playing against lesser WR’s, but he has experience as a FS so the transition shouldn’t be all that great. Could give Griffith some competition or wait a year until his instincts and technique get up to NFL standards. But he will contribute immediately as a threat as a PR and KR man, as a Gunner on Kickoffs and punts, and finally as a punt and FG block teamer.

4. OL – Kevin Boothe – I know G & G have said they will pick a first day OL, but they could pass on the others guys picked and the difference between the guys that were left on the board and who would still be on the board in the 4th round is not a big drop off. Admittedly I don’t know much about him since he played at Cornell. All I know about him is on the research, a few highlights showed on him, and the talked surrounding him in various other locations. But I do know that we have been watching him and interviewing him, so he is on our board I would assume. So here is a link to an overview of him and seems to be the consensus on him. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/og/kevinboothe.html

5. DT – Tommy Jackson – Bowling ball, once he gets going you can’t stop him from moving. Typical Cards Slant NT guy that can take on multiple blockers. We interviewed him at the combine and his pro day. Vocal team leader, top intangibles, strong, tough, smart, technique. Not a pass rusher, some durability issues, not sideline to sideline type guy. Could be a good situational and rotational guy in a 4-5 DT rotation, one of those guys that every team needs.

6. OT – Toledo – Former TE with little experience at the OT spot. But he did very well for his first year and is a quick learner. It helps that he has great athletic ability from being a TE along with great feet, quick hands, and really long arms. Biggest upside out of any OL in the draft, but he may also be the biggest project to being a starter.

7. RB/FB – Gilbert Harris – Think of him as another Femi (great receiver, special teams, average blocker) but he has one thing Femi does not, Power Inside Running ability. The guy is a beast on the 1 yard line and short yardage situations. But he doesn’t have a position either he is a RB stuck in a FB’s body type and speed. He also has some off the field issues and attitude problems on the field.

UDFA's -

DB - Dawan Landry - Georgia Tech
DE/OLB - Frostee Rucker - USC
CB - Justin Wyatt - USC
OL - Chris Kuper - North Dakota
WR - Marques Colston - Hofstra
LB - James Anderson - Virginia Tech
TE - Quinn Sypniewski - Colorado
DT - Domata Peko - Michigan St.

Ambitious and well considered. I'll do just a tad of homework and then I'll post my draft.
 

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Okay, I'll go all in on this one.

I've taken two things into account in my mock.
1. Green will never allow trading down from #10 when we have a shot at a blue-chip player.
2. Green has promised Edge and Warner to upgrade the OL, and need to focus on the OL in this draft.

1. Young - Texas. I don't buy all the hype about the three QBs going in the top of the draft. The Saints won't draft one with Brees signed, the Titans have Volek and Magnini will not take a QB in the first, so the Jets will also pass on QBs. The Packers and 49'ers drafted QB in the first last season, so Leinart will fall all the way down to #7 - leaving Young for us at #10. Young arguebly has the most potential in the draft and G&G cannot pass on him at #10

1b. OT Marcus McNeil - Auburn. Green keeps his promise to Edge and Warner and trades our #2 and next year's #2 to move up into the button of the first. He takes the 3rd best OT in McNeil, who should be able to challege Ross for the starting RT job from day one.

3. DT Claude Wroten - LSU. For the last two years we've picked up a sliding player in the 3rd and this year will be no different. Wroten had a bad pro day and was arrested for selling MJ (charges were later dropped), but it will result in Wroten slipping and we'll pick him up in the 3rd.

4. OLB AJ Nicholson - Florida State. Awesome player with off-field issues that fits the team. Just like Dockett the scouting department have made their homework on this guy and have no problem drafting him in the 4th.

5. G Charles Spencer - Pitt. Big Guards with weight concerns usually goes much later than everyone expected. Green adds to the OL by adding this talented player with huge potential.

6. TE Cooper Wallace - Auburn. Bergen is solid as a receiving TE in our offense, but Wallace brings superior blocking to our TE position and is a nice addition to Bergen and Edwards.

7. CB Darrel Hunter - Miami (OH). CB with blazing speed and a good return man. Adds nice depth both at CB and as PR/KR.
 
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Here's what I would do...

1. T Winston Justice, USC. This guy has too much upside to pass up. He can play both tackle positions. Big, athletic and highly competitive. A starter from day one.

2. G Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui, USC. Even though I like Max Jean-Gilles' brute strength, I believe Lutui is the best all-around guard in this draft. This kid is a winner. He needs to keep his weight down. If he does and he maintains his conditioning, he'll be one of the better guards in the NFL.

3. PR/DB/WR Will Blackmon, Boston College. Forget about Az Hakim. Blackmon has outsdtanding feet and, next to Reggie Bush, is the best cutback runner in this draft. Brings great versatility and can help the team in a variety of roles.

4. QB Tarvaris Jackson, Alabama St. Reminds me of a skinny version of Warren Moon. Has a major league arm and the ball leaves his hand smoothly. Good field awareness. Needs to quicken his release. He'll need some time to develop, but with Warner signed for three years, he can learn from one of the best.

5. C Pat Ross, Boston College. Watch this guy on tape and he will make you wonder why he's flying under the radar in this draft. IMO, just as talented and productive as his predecessor, Dan Koppen, who has started and played well from day one with the Pats.

6. S Calvin Lowry, Penn St. One of the more under-rated players in the draft, IMO. While his 40 times won't wow anyone, on the field this guy shows exemplary instincts and a knack for being in the right place at the right time. Had 8 interceptions the last two years.

7. CB Dee McCann, West Virginia. Stepped in admirably for Pacman Jones this past season. Has the swagger and toughness one wants in a cover corner. Good special teams ability.
 

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Rd. 1: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
Rd. 2: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State
Rd. 3: Jason Spitz, G, Louisville
Rd. 4: Dusty Dvorcek, DT, Oklahoma
Rd. 5: AJ Nicholson, OLB, Florida St.
Rd. 6: Paul Szczesny, MLB, Arizona State
Rd. 7: Brian Head, C, Stanford
 

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Pariah said:
Rd. 1: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
Rd. 2: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State
Rd. 3: Jason Spitz, G, Louisville
Rd. 4: Dusty Dvorcek, DT, Oklahoma
Rd. 5: AJ Nicholson, OLB, Florida St.
Rd. 6: Paul Szczesny, MLB, Arizona State
Rd. 7: Brian Head, C, Stanford

No way Cromartie last until round 2. Some mocks have him as high as 17 overall.

Nicholson would be a steal in the 5th.
 

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1. Winson Justice, OT, USC. Too good to pass up at this point
2. Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA Best hands of the TE group
3. Pat Watkins, S, FSU Great size and range
4. Jon Alston, LB Stanford Speed LB for the weakside
5. Johnny Jolly, DT Tx A&M. High motor, lunch pail two-gapper
6. Bruce Gradowski, QB Toledo Accurate passer with great intangibles
7. Paul McQuistan, OT Webber St. Developmental depth
 

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No way Cromartie last until round 2. Some mocks have him as high as 17 overall.

Nicholson would be a steal in the 5th.
Every year there are guys who fall a lot farter than everyone expects and what's more, Denny has a knack for drafting those guys.
 

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JAM's final top ten mock draft

Here is my final top ten mock draft. There no doubt will be trades but that is too hard to figure hence I did not include any.

1. Houston. Reggie Bush, RB, USC. No surprise
2. New Orleans. Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina State. They will take an OL on round two. They liked Ferguson but felt Mario the best player in the draft.
3. Tennessee. Matt Leinart, QB, USC. Fisher and Chow both want him.
4. New York Jets. D’Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia. Will think of taking a qb but the Brick will give them an all-pro OT for the next ten years.
5. Green Bay Packers. AJ Hawk, OLB, Ohio State. Could be best defensive player in the draft.
6. San Francisco 49ers. Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland. Best receiver in the draft.
7. Oakland Raiders. Vince Young, QB, Texas. Perfect fit for Al Davis. With Aaron Brooks signed as a free agent Young won’t be rushed into starting.
8. Buffalo Bills. Winston Justice, OT, USC. Bills have many needs, they could trade down but must fix OL.
9. Detroit Lions. Michael Huff, S, Texas. Lions need and get defensive playmaker.
10. Arizona Cardinals. Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State. Pass on Cutler, Sims, and Ngata. Bunkley is 6’2 ½ “, 305 lbs. Had a stellar senior season with a school record 25 tackles for loss along with 9 sacks and 2 fumble recoveries. At the Combine ran a 4.97 forty, did 44 reps and a 32 ½ “vertical jump.

Cards will take OT Andrew Whitworth from LSU in round 2 and Safety Anthony Smith from Syracuse in round 3.
 

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Hmmm

Pariah said:
Every year there are guys who fall a lot farter than everyone expects and what's more, Denny has a knack for drafting those guys.

Not sure those who are considered falling a lot FARTER would be a popular teammate...
 

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Yeah but with our injury history, what kind of disasters could we expect when the lighters showed up for the rookie hazing games?
 

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Okay here it goes

AJ Hawk
Marcus Mcnier Or Max Jean
Brodie Croyle
Orien Harris
Dominique Byrd
Ryan Cook
Jarrad Page.

Just a feeling Hawk falls to us based on other teams needs and past performances picking players.

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"2--Trueblood"

Let's hope not. Remember the Senior Bowl. May drop to the forth round.
 

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seesred said:
Okay here it goes

AJ Hawk
Marcus Mcnier Or Max Jean
Brodie Croyle
Orien Harris
Dominique Byrd
Ryan Cook
Jarrad Page.

Just a feeling Hawk falls to us based on other teams needs and past performances picking players.

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Now I see why you would like to stay at 10, I would love to see it but there are only a couple of can't miss guys in the draft and Hawk is one of them. I would absolutly love the draft to go this way:thumbup:
 

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Chainthroer said:
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"2--Trueblood"

Let's hope not. Remember the Senior Bowl. May drop to the forth round.

The Senior Bowl is more less an All Star game. He got kicked out for being too rough....which was very questionable. This team lacks Nasty Olineman....badly.
 
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"2--Trueblood"

Let's hope not. Remember the Senior Bowl. May drop to the forth round.

the sneior bowl isnt about the game. It is about the week of practices leading up to the game. 99% of all the scouts, coaches and GM's dont even stay for the game. They go home after the practices are over.
 

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1. Winston Justice/OT. Ross, even if he has a decent year or two is 31. Leonard Davis.......what are we going to do about him and locking him up....and at what price?

2. Babatunde Oshinowo/DT. Kendrick Clancy will prove all of those who don't think much of his FA signing really didn't do their homework as to why he was brought in. Having said this, every team needs 4 DT's that can play and who are more than just backups.

3. Pat Watkins/FS. Might be the best match for us at FS. Rising quickly up the charts.

4. Omar Jacobs/QB. I think he slides into the 4th and would be a steal here.

5. Patrick Ross/C. Mitch is right....this guy is a hidden gem

6. WR/KR/BPA

7. CB/KR/BPA
 

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1. Winston Justice/OT. Ross, even if he has a decent year or two is 31. Leonard Davis.......what are we going to do about him and locking him up....and at what price?

2. Babatunde Oshinowo/DT. Kendrick Clancy will prove all of those who don't think much of his FA signing really didn't do their homework as to why he was brought in. Having said this, every team needs 4 DT's that can play and who are more than just backups.

3. Pat Watkins/FS. Might be the best match for us at FS. Rising quickly up the charts.

4. Omar Jacobs/QB. I think he slides into the 4th and would be a steal here.

5. Patrick Ross/C. Mitch is right....this guy is a hidden gem

6. WR/KR/BPA

7. CB/KR/BPA
Spanky, no offense, but if the draft went this way I would be very disappointed. Not so much in who we drafted but in where you have them being drafted. I believe Baba is a 3rd rd pick and Watkins a late 3rd early 4th. Both would be reaches. Another Center? If it isn't Mangold(and it won't be) no one that far down will replace Step, Leckey. Jacobs would be a decent pick there.
 

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Spanky, no offense, but if the draft went this way I would be very disappointed. Not so much in who we drafted but in where you have them being drafted. I believe Baba is a 3rd rd pick and Watkins a late 3rd early 4th. Both would be reaches. Another Center? If it isn't Mangold(and it won't be) no one that far down will replace Step, Leckey. Jacobs would be a decent pick there.


I think Babatunde is one of those guys who could be very dependent on how many 3-4 teams are out there. He didn't play strictly NT in college but he is the type of kid that would be an idea NT in the 3-4 in the NFL. I can see him going much higher than expected for that very reason.

I think there are several teams who if they took him in round 2 wouldn't be reaching at all, but for us it probably would be a reach because we appear to not like DT's that play like him, we like smaller quicker guys, not wide body strong guys.
 
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Russ Smith said:
I think Babatunde is one of those guys who could be very dependent on how many 3-4 teams are out there. He didn't play NT in college but he is the type of kid that would be an idea NT in the 3-4 in the NFL. I can see him going much higher than expected for that very reason.

I think there are several teams who if they took him in round 2 wouldn't be reaching at all, but for us it probably would be a reach because we appear to not like DT's that play like him, we like smaller quicker guys, not wide body strong guys.
I have seen Baba go anywhere from the 5th round to the 3rd in most Mocks. He helped himself in the Seinor Bowl move up to a solid 3rd rounder. It is easy to get enamored with guys we see alot during the year. I am enamored with Brad Smith but would not draft him 3rd round. Baba is a poor mans Casey Hampton and I will stay with my origional judgement that he will be a reach if taken by anyone in the 2nd round because of the number of DT available that have more upside than he does. He is a good football player but not a 2nd rounder IMO.
 

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