It's official. Cards and K K are one Kliff Kingsbury Cards

[RugbyMuffin]

Wow. So total sh*tshow.

Ya think ?

 

[slanidrac16]

Can we name it "What to do once reality sets in" ?

Start a thread. Maybe we’ll see you in mid October ...or maybe we won’t.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I don't know much about the guy, but if I have to hear on KTAR one more time about how attractive he is and how women love him, I'm gonna hurl. Give it a rest, already. Sheesh!

Well my wife said, "At least the Cards have the best looking HC now" after she saw a photo of him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Agreed its an exaggeration on my part perhaps. But also saying Taylor is much better choice only because he has coached in the NFL is not a fact. (Not saying that what you said so no need for the "words matter" reply )

In that case, Wilks would have been a better hire over Chip Kelly when he came out because he was under a coach who had some success in the NFL . . Who would you take? Wilks right? Well who was more successful?

KK actually being a HC is being vastly underated on this board. I know its NFL vs NCAA but being a HC and a QB coach are two different worlds.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I try not to pin my hopes on what others (spurrier, etc) have done in the past. KK’s calling card certainly seems to be offense and bro’ing with the players. I’m good with both of those. I just think Taylor would have been an excellent choice (and likely a similar gamble) as KK. Both have pluses and minuses. It depends upon where each fan places the greatest importance.

No doubt there is a world of difference between being a head coach responsible for the whole enchilada and QB coach. But you’re underselling the difference between being a college and pro coach. There’s a reason why the same types typically aren’t successful at both.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Cards were speaking to Kingsbury about the potential OC job. Then they realized after he took the USC OC job, that the only way they could get him was if they hired him as a HC.

This totally makes sense.

 

[Cheesebeef]

here's what i do REALLY like about Kliff... that apparently throughout his career, his offenses have not only been very good to great, he's been able to ADAPT to the players he's had on the field. That a big deal for any great HC... the ability to CHANGE his "system" and not be rigid.

 

[slanidrac16]

here's what i do REALLY like about Kliff... that apparently throughout his career, his offenses have not only been very good to great, he's been able to ADAPT to the players he's had on the field. That a big deal for any great HC... the ability to CHANGE his "system" and not be rigid.

Thumbs up!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Agreed its an exaggeration on my part perhaps. But also saying Taylor is much better choice only because he has coached in the NFL is not a fact. (Not saying that what you said so no need for the "words matter" reply )

Ageed. The word should be Zac Taylor is a more qualified for the job. Better choice would be more of a matter of opinion. But, more experience would say you are better qualified on paper.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Ageed. The word should be Zac Taylor is a more qualified for the job. Better choice would be more of a matter of opinion. But, more experience would say you are better qualified on paper.

I can see an argument being made that at least Kingsbury has been a HC, but the idea that people completely dismiss Taylor as out of hand and heads and tails below Kingsbury just seems like myopic Cardinals Kool-Aid. If he had been the choice, the same people slamming him as completely out of Kingsbury's lead would be jumping up and down excited about him saying he's exactly in the same mold as McVay.

 

[Buckybird]

We have our Offensive minded coach that will bring a wide open offense to the Cards. Also I think he will do a great job with Rosen and that's the main thing. All we need now is a really good DC.

And at least 2 more quality WRs & oh yeah an Oline that can keep from getting Rosen’s back waxed almost every play or even seriously hurt.

This offense isn’t going to be great overnight, it’s probably a 2 year process

 

[Crimson Warrior]

He's a fan, not a beat writer.

Says right at the bottom of the piece.

Actually GuernseyCard, Barry Tramel is employed by the Daily Oklahoman, and has been a reputable journalist in our area for at least 20 years. I did misspeak when I called him a beat writer though. He's the Oklahoman's main sports columnist writer I guess you would say.

 

[HeHasRosen]

I can see an argument being made that at least Kingsbury has been a HC, but the idea that people completely dismiss Taylor as out of hand and heads and tails below Kingsbury just seems like myopic Cardinals Kool-Aid. If he had been the choice, the same people slamming him as completely out of Kingsbury's lead would be jumping up and down excited about him saying he's exactly in the same mold as McVay.

Me personally? I would be happy with either. I just don't see Taylor as a better candidate only because he has coached in the NFL. Thats my argument exactly, I prefer KK because he HAS been a HC. Plus I have actually been able to see his scheme and offensive play calling in action. How do we know what type of play calling or scheme Taylor would run. Mcvays? We dont there's no sample. He has never even called plays!

Having an opinion is great. But ppl crapping all over the hire, and the best anyone can come up with is Taylor or Caldwell is horse****

 

[Cheesebeef]

Me personally? I would be happy with either. I just don't see Taylor as a better candidate only because he has coached in the NFL. Thats my argument exactly, I prefer KK because he HAS been a HC. Plus I have actually been able to see his scheme and offensive play calling in action. How do we know what type of play calling or scheme Taylor would run. Mcvays? We dont there's no sample. He has never even called plays!

Having an opinion is great. But ppl crapping all over the hire, and the best anyone can come up with is Taylor or Caldwell is horse****

if there's good arguments for both, I just don't know why the people that are gung-ho are flying off the handle at anyone who challenges the Kingsbury hire and calling other's opinion horse-####? The people aren't crapping on YOU. Don't see the reason why you and some others have decided to do the same to posters.

 

[Jasper]

I think Kliff will do just fine.
Being a NCAA head coach is not any easier than a NFL head coach.

He will have half the roster, not have to recruit high schoolers, deal with boosters, academics or babysit.

Just needs to surround himself with professional and competent staff.

 

[Mainstreet]

It made me feel good to hear the confidence Kingsbury and Keim has in Rosen.

Maybe this was to be expected but it's huge if the Cardinals have their quarterback of the future already on the team.

 

[Mainstreet]

Maybe this keeps Fitz on the team. I want him on board as the Cardinals advance their passing game.

It wouldn't seem right without Fitz.

 

[HeHasRosen]

if there's good arguments for both, I just don't know why the people that are gung-ho are flying off the handle at anyone who challenges the Kingsbury hire and calling other's opinion horse-####? The people aren't crapping on YOU. Don't see the reason why you and some others have decided to do the same to posters.

If I offended anyone I apologize. I guess im worked up about all the hate this is getting from all directions. Just know that when everyone is ready to hop on this bandwagon, I'll be driving this train. Go Birdgang!

 

[BullheadCardFan]

KK’s calling card certainly seems to be offense and bro’ing with the players. I’m good with both of those.

I am not a fan of the coach being a bro to the players.

There is a professional line that shouldn't be crossed.

Just like at work. It's business. I am friendly with some of the subcontractors that work with and for me, but we keep business separate. It's a respect issue with me. JMO

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Just needs to surround himself with professional and competent staff.

Can't emphasis this enough.

A strong staff will help him immensely. Especially a strong DC.

 

[TheCardFan]

I am not a fan of the coach being a bro to the players.

There is a professional line that shouldn't be crossed.

Just like at work. It's business. I am friendly with some of the subcontractors that work with and for me, but we keep business separate. It's a respect issue with me. JMO

Different generation of players.

McVay could be considered Coach Bro as well IMO.

To your point though, there has to be rules/structure/respect.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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New #AZCardinals coach Kliff Kinsbury on @gmfb calls Josh Rosen “an extremely talented thrower” and lauds his toughness. As for his old QB Patrick Mahomes this week, Kingsbury said “He’s a guy who loves the bright lights on him and I expect him to play his best football."

 

[Shane]

KK being interviewed in Good morning football in about two minutes

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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