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I mean, Zac Taylor has all of 1 season as QBs coach and 1 season as an assistant WRs coach. As far as I know, the Rams haven't won anything in the last two years.

they've won two division titles. more than anything Kingbury can say who couldn't even go .500 in his league.

and again, I would have thought Taylor was a swing for the fences pick. just one who's actually at least stood on an NFL sideline before.
 

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The only thing that will make this more entertaining is if we see an article in a few days that Kliff is now asking the Cards for clearance to interview with Denver and Miami. :lol:
 

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Hey someone with an opinion who actually watched the guy coach! I love the hire. KK is one of the premier up and coming offensive minds in football. Only topped by Lincoln Riley imo but he is staying in college.

Between the name, avatar and this post I almost feel like this has to be trolling, but I'll bite... TTU games can be seen on TV and plenty of people have watched them play.

You cannot say dudes offense was awesome in B12 and that mean much anywhere else. They play B12 and the couple OOC are almost always scrubs. Avging over 500 ypg is nothing in special in the B12 just like giving up 500 ypg isn't crazy either.

So out of the entirety of football KK is only supplanted by Riley and TTU gave that up because the reason they sucked was the talent gap between them and the rest of the B12?

This whole thing seems like the classic case of someone no one was paying attention to and someone else shows some interest and suddenly everyone else is jockeying to get their attention.

I hope I'm wrong. I want another playoff run right now so I get swinging for the fences, but this is like a situation only Forrest Gump could fall into... Guy gets fired from TTU HC, goes to USC for one month as OC and now in HC in NFL, wtf? I mean really the only next logical end to the story is that he becomes the greatest HC of all time?

I wasn't excited by the Wilks pick but I was excited by the prospect of new blood. I thought he would come in and maintain status quo but improve the areas BA was so stubborn with to a fault and we would at least be treading water. Sorry, not falling into that trap again with SK putting together the roster, giving a B12 castoff at HC, and a QB that has shown no signs of life.

Once the Cards start winning is when I gleefully hop on KK bandwagon and off the fire Keim bandwagon.
 

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they've won two division titles. more than anything Kingbury can say who couldn't even go .500 in his league.

and again, I would have thought Taylor was a swing for the fences pick. just one who's actually at least stood on an NFL sideline before.

Kingsbury had a few winning seasons at Texas Tech.

I think you are severely underrating how hard it is to win there. Lubbock is worse than Tucson.
 

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I just wanted to quote an article on Yahoo.com:

“And that’s (attracted the Cardinals) what it did for Kingsbury. Enough so that when he lost his job at Texas Tech, no fewer than four extremely bright minds all reached out to him for some type of conversation or encouragement, or simply to pick his brain. We’re talking about McVay, the Chiefs’ Andy Reid, the New Orleans Saints’ Sean Payton and then-Miami Dolphins coach Adam Gase. The New England Patriots’ Bill Belichick? He would have loved nothing more than to get Kingsbury into his building to watch some film and discuss offensive concepts.

That all meant something to the Cardinals. Just like it meant something that Kingsbury had a hand in the development in a litany of NFL quarterbacks, from Mahomes to the Cleveland Browns’ Baker Mayfield to former first-round pick Johnny Manziel to Denver Broncos starter Case Keenum and New York Jets backup Davis Webb. That’s a lot of NFL talent that helped pave the way to Kingsbury posting five top-five finishes in scoring offense in the college ranks, split between multiple stops as an offensive coordinator and head coach. And maybe most impressive, Kingsbury’s offenses were rarely static. He changed elements to fit players and skills. He augmented schemes to fit the tools at hand. It’s the kind of thing that gets you noticed on all levels of football.”
 

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Most important thing about KK is that he runs a very QB friendly scheme. While it may not look that complex on paper, it has solutions for almost any situation, which enables a well prepared QB to pull the trigger quickly. It's designed to get the ball out to the playmakers quickly and stretch the defense horizontally, which allows for some vertical stuff to open up because the defense is put in a bind. I'm especially excited for Kirk who has great RAC ability as well as good deep speed. DJ will be running more routes and get more looks. Running lanes should open up regardless of how much we can improve our OL, since the defense gets stretched and can't stack the box against this type of offense.

As has already been mentioned in the article, KK is always adapting to his players strengths and attacking the opponents weak links. He has changed the focal point of his offense multiple times. One time it was the slot WR, then the TE, then the RB and he almost ditched the TE position. I think with DJ here and no real TE threat, that's what we will be looking at. Let space create the rushing lanes, not 5 subpar OL plus 2 subpar TEs trying to block stronger defenders one vs one. Im excited for our offense!
 

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PFT is having fun with this one.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...rence-from-article-announcing-kingsbury-hire/

The Cardinals have revised the article announcing the hire on their official website to remove reference to the fact that Kingsbury possesses a largely-irrelevant resume point.

“Kingsbury is friends with Rams coach Sean McVay,” the article on AZCardinals.com originally stated. It has since been revised to say this: “Rams coach Sean McVay — the 32-year-old offensive genius who has become the blueprint of many of the new coaching hires around the NFL — reached out to Kingsbury after Texas Tech let him go to see if Kingsbury wanted to join the Rams’ staff for the stretch run and postseason as an offensive consultant. Kingsbury considered it but ultimately joined USC.”

The revision surely wasn’t stylistic or artistic or an attempt at correcting an error. The Cardinals were widely lampooned for touting Kingsbury based on a tenuous connection to McVay. And they’re still catching flak for referring to McVay as a “genius” in the article.

I caught the TV show this morning. This was about the first thing they brought up. They did spend a few minutes talking about the hire. Chris Simms had a few opinions of course. He likes KK alot for his creative offenses and working with QBs, but thinks his career would have been better served working as an assistant for a year or two to learn all the nuances of NFL offenses and defenses.

On the Cardinals side, they say it works for them because it allows them to set the bar real low because he will need time to adjust to the NFL. And of course the comparison to Chip Kelly and Steve Spurrier. Offensive geniuses who never adjusted to the NFL - vs McVay, offensive genius who grew up with the NFL.
 

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did they run the same offense?

from what i have seen they have completely differents personalities, kingsburry looks like he can build good relationships with players


Same thing was said about Steve Wilks.
 

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Jim Caldwell didn't move the needle anywhere he went. Caldwell is the definition of mediocre NFL Head Coach.


Yeah, I know. Winning record, and success doesn't mean as much as getting on a hype train based on one nationally televised game.

But, hey, when the team goes 1-15 next year, I am SURE that will move the needle. LOL!
 

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And of course the comparison to Chip Kelly and Steve Spurrier. Offensive geniuses who never adjusted to the NFL - vs McVay, offensive genius who grew up with the NFL.

I still think ego has more to do with the failure to make the transition. Spurrier, Kelly, Buddy Ryan, even Arians...they are too stubborn to adapt. It's my way or the highway won't work for long as the NFL is all about adjustments.
 
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Some how, some way the Cards need to figure a way to draft Harry. Let Fitz mentor him for a year or two.

Harry and Kirk would be a great duo at WR.
I predict Harry goes #8 - 15 and even if Cards trade down he is in play.

He is an X receiver.
 
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I predict Harry goes #8 - 15 and even if Cards trade down he is in play.

He is an X receiver.
Yep. He'll be the first WR off the board; it's just a matter of where. I'd really prefer they trade down to get him. Problem is with no clear #1 or a solid QB class, the Cards are going to have to depend on post-combine player hype to trade down most likely.

I'm looking at you Jacksonville!
 

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