Jazz @ Suns game thread 10-25-17

[RON_IN_OC]

Can anyone really blame him though?

Len looked like a completely different player last night. Rarely have I seen him that aggressive. The same can be said for the entire team.

This! It's hard for the FO to evaluate talent and contracts, when the talent isn't being developed and held accountable.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Can anyone really blame him though?

Len looked like a completely different player last night. Rarely have I seen him that aggressive. The same can be said for the entire team.

This is what a contract year and not being wanted by 29 other NBA teams will do for your aggressive level. If if doesnt sustain it, he might be playing in europe next year. My bet is he will be.

 

[JCSunsfan]

This! It's hard for the FO to evaluate talent and contracts, when the talent isn't being developed and held accountable.

Again, I am McD fan. But that is on him. It was his coach. I was kind of hoping they could sign him for an Alan Williams level deal. But maybe Len's people preferred what they got.

 

[95pro]

Again, I am McD fan. But that is on him. It was his coach. I was kind of hoping they could sign him for an Alan Williams level deal. But maybe Len's people preferred what they got.

You kind of wonder if it was his coach after reports are saying that the two of them didn't really gel with each other. Least that is what I remember reading somewhere when Watson was canned.

 

[JS22]

Again, I am McD fan. But that is on him. It was his coach. I was kind of hoping they could sign him for an Alan Williams level deal. But maybe Len's people preferred what they got.

Seems like McD and Watson never really saw eye-to-eye.

Makes me wonder if it was entirely his decision to bring Watson back.

 

[Covert Rain]

Ha ha. One decent game by lenny and now peeps want to sign him to multi year. We wasted five years on this guys inconsistencies and its time to cut bait. Fools gold. Trade him with Bledsoe. Im sure he'll agree to that.

This. People overreact to much after any player has a good game. If you don't see consistency after a period of time you never will. It is fools gold. That's why AVG in stats exists...you see how a player levels out over time.

I feel like I am having Side Show Bob deja vu. This is EXACTLY how the Suns time and time again get saddled with bad contracts we end up having to pay someone basically to move later.

 

[Chaplin]

Again, I am McD fan. But that is on him. It was his coach. I was kind of hoping they could sign him for an Alan Williams level deal. But maybe Len's people preferred what they got.

At that time, though, did he really deserve an Alan Williams deal? I know 95% of the people on this board had pretty much had it with his inconsistency. And in fact, more than a few were pretty happy the Suns didn't cave and offer him anything more than the qualifying offer. If that was a mistake, so be it, but at the time, I'm not sure it was the wrong thing to do.

 

[JCSunsfan]

At that time, though, did he really deserve an Alan Williams deal? I know 95% of the people on this board had pretty much had it with his inconsistency. And in fact, more than a few were pretty happy the Suns didn't cave and offer him anything more than the qualifying offer. If that was a mistake, so be it, but at the time, I'm not sure it was the wrong thing to do.

I think most of us would have been fine with Len getting a Sauce level deal. Its what I was expecting.

 

[Chaplin]

I think most of us would have been fine with Len getting a Sauce level deal. Its what I was expecting.

Money-level, ok. But I think most would have been unwilling to do multiple years.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Len played ONE GOOD game. Not even a great game. Feel like we should slow our McD blew it roll on Len until he actually puts two games in a row together like this... and that's coming from a McD hater.

 

[Covert Rain]

Len played ONE GOOD game. Not even a great game. Feel like we should slow our McD blew it roll on Len until he actually puts two games in a row together like this... and that's coming from a McD hater.

It needs to be more than two. We need to see it consistently for a period of time (he will have ups and downs). The last thing this team needs is a bad contract that we will have to bribe someone to take off our hands later.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

This. People overreact to much after any player has a good game. If you don't see consistency after a period of time you never will. It is fools gold. That's why AVG in stats exists...you see how a player levels out over time.

I feel like I am having Side Show Bob deja vu. This is EXACTLY how the Suns time and time again get saddled with bad contracts we end up having to pay someone basically to move later.

Haha. Side Show Bob. I hated that guy too. Along with soft frye.

 

[elindholm]

Line of the night

TJ Warren 27 and 5

Line of the night

"I love you"

 

[JCSunsfan]

Len played ONE GOOD game. Not even a great game. Feel like we should slow our McD blew it roll on Len until he actually puts two games in a row together like this... and that's coming from a McD hater.

I thought he blew it the moment the QO was signed. So this is not reactionary for me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It needs to be more than two. We need to see it consistently for a period of time (he will have ups and downs). The last thing this team needs is a bad contract that we will have to bribe someone to take off our hands later.

I was being sarcastic. He needs a SEASON of actually looking at least solid to warrant another deal.

 

[leclerc]

If quese can't hit from inside the paint going reverse glass why not try dunking it? Stuff it? Good thing he can pout and complain as soon as he sees it not going in, you know instead of scoring and playing defence.

 

[unseenaz]

If Len played like that every night we would have already made him a rich man

 

[Finito]

If quese can't hit from inside the paint going reverse glass why not try dunking it? Stuff it? Good thing he can pout and complain as soon as he sees it not going in, you know instead of scoring and playing defence.

He's played great the last two games

 

[SweetD]

I currently put Len in line with Steven Hunter, Danny Schayes and Jake Voskuhl. Have one good year and then end up out of the league after another contract.

I like what he has done in one game, but still not showing he is worthy of a big contract or even a starting role. His pick and role D is horrible, he sags way off the ball and sits in the box. A shooting center is going to light him up.

 

[leclerc]

Great game. Loved the finish by Booker. Ulis, Jackson, Warren, even Chriss and Bender were cooking. Bledsoe who?

 

[devilalum]

If Len played like that every night we would have already made him a rich man

He’s already made more than I have in my entire life.


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[Errntknght]

Somebody coming up for retirement now would have been very well paid to average 40000 per year for 50 years - that's 2 million total. Len will have been paid close to ten times that by the end of this season. I fully expect he will be insulted if the team offers him ten mil per annum then.

 

[Mainstreet]

I currently put Len in line with Steven Hunter, Danny Schayes and Jake Voskuhl. Have one good year and then end up out of the league after another contract.

I like what he has done in one game, but still not showing he is worthy of a big contract or even a starting role. His pick and role D is horrible, he sags way off the ball and sits in the box. A shooting center is going to light him up.

In short, Len is a backup center. I do think he will have a career as a journeyman center.

 

[Hoop Head]

One thing I found kind of interesting about this game is that all highlights and mentions of Bledsoe have been scrubbed from the arena in reference to any banners, advertisements, and video packages shown during the game that you don't see on TV broadcasts. I know they were serious about moving him but I found it odd that he was erased completely already and makes me think he won't return. Shortly after sitting down about 30 minutes before start time, an employee went around to the ushers in 4 sections at the arena to check the programs being handed out. He looked over the backs closely and then left with all of them only to return not long after with new stacks. I had gotten one before hand and got another after I saw that and nothing was changed but Bledsoe was not listed on the Suns roster on it but Knight was.

 

[JCSunsfan]

In short, Len is a backup center. I do think he will have a career as a journeyman center.

I think he will be better than that. He will be a solid starter. Tyson Chandler level.