Jeff Teflon Blake

[Lex]

No blame seems to be sticking to our new quarterback. Great stats, but we lost big, so now our whole coaching staff is to blame for this loss.

I see things a bit differently.

Blakes interception for a touchdown, along with his two fumbles while not being touched, one resulting in another touchdown, cost us 14 points. Game would have been 28-24.

Coach Mac said this morning that penalties and turnovers cost us the game. Let's look at those penalties. AC had all those false starts, LJ Shelton said this morning that he never heard Jeff Blake at the line all game. Seems Blake's voice doesn't project very well.

Emmitt Smith called two timeouts during the game, to avoid even MORE delay penalties than we HAD. I've never seen this happen before. Jeff Blake's JOB is to handle the team on the field. Get em in and out of the huddle, AND SNAP THE DAMN BALL BEFORE THE CLOCK HITS ZERO. I don't care if the play was called in slow from the box, you must snap the ball before the clock runs out. It's very simple.

The Lions gave Jeff Blake NO respect. They had 8 guys in the box all day. THAT'S why Quan and Blake had good stats.

If YOU are one of those people that only care about stats...then YOU won't care if we go 3-13, as long as our QB has good stats.

I want wins.

 

[SECTION 11]

And they're off!!

 

[Assface]

Originally posted by Lex
No blame seems to be sticking to our new quarterback. Great stats, but we lost big, so now our whole coaching staff is to blame for this loss.

I see things a bit differently.

Blakes interception for a touchdown, along with his two fumbles while not being touched, one resulting in another touchdown, cost us 14 points. Game would have been 28-24.

Coach Mac said this morning that penalties and turnovers cost us the game. Let's look at those penalties. AC had all those false starts, LJ Shelton said this morning that he never heard Jeff Blake at the line all game. Seems Blake's voice doesn't project very well.

Emmitt Smith called two timeouts during the game, to avoid even MORE delay penalties than we HAD. I've never seen this happen before. Jeff Blake's JOB is to handle the team on the field. Get em in and out of the huddle, AND SNAP THE DAMN BALL BEFORE THE CLOCK HITS ZERO. I don't care if the play was called in slow from the box, you must snap the ball before the clock runs out. It's very simple.

The Lions gave Jeff Blake NO respect. They had 8 guys in the box all day. THAT'S why Quan and Blake had good stats.

If YOU are one of those people that only care about stats...then YOU won't care if we go 3-13, as long as our QB has good stats.

I want wins.

What would you have done differently this offseason regarding our QB situation?

Blake isn't perfect but he was our best option and had less turnovers than many of the perennial probowlers.

 

[BW52]

Hopefully yesterdays mistakes where just a bad day.It`s Jake`s fault

Blake made mistakes that most don`t expect him to make.One game does not a season make.Blake will probably get a season long grace period anyway.

 

[Redheart]

Warning Flags

Besides the very good statistics by Blake (consider Quan's monster day sure helped Blakes stats--A LOT)...there were some stuff to be concerned about.

Only one pick, but three that were "shoulda's".

Blake looked tired. Weak. Leathargic. Stumbling on your own toe is a sure sign of tired player. I am worried about his conditioning. Walking up to the line as time runs out, REPEATEDLY, shouts "TIRED PLAYER".

Flying east makes the morning two-hours early, then a 10:00 game means you are getting EXTRA early and may not have slept well with the first-game-of-the-season butterflies flapping around the hotel room. (Did you guys notice the bags under Grammatica's eyes, he looked like he had been doing the conga with Jeter & Steinbrenner all night).

I don't know if the weather / heat / humidity was a factor, but I think our practice conditions should have prepared out team.

Beside the concerns, I REALLY like Blake's ability to read the field. SO nice to see a QB move through his progressions...or maybe he was just looking for QUAN!

 

[jtav10]

poor protection and running for your life half the game makes for a tired qb.

 

[nidan]

Maybe I should have said, that compared to watching Jake we don't have a problem at QB.

That's assuming he doesn't make the late game mistakes next week and is not running for his life.

He came out reasonable, if the mistakes cut down he will be in the pro bowl with performances like that.

For Jake 12-15 for 0 TD & 3 Int says it all. The Bronco's won despite Jake and because they were playing a Bengals team that was bad by the Bengal's standards

 

[Redheart]

Just to be complete...

Our scoring drives were helped SEVERAL times by the Kitty secondary and the Zebra-hankies. We were dead stopped in that first drive if the Lion DB lets Gilmore catch the ball four-yards short of the 1st down and tackles him.

As many penelties as we got, several of our drives were kept alive or even moved into the red-zone by those little yellow game-breakers.

Detroit's weak secondary and their mistakes contributed a BUNCH to our ability to move the ball.

Seattle game will be VERY interesting.

 

[Assface]

Re: Just to be complete...

Originally posted by Redheart

Detroit's weak secondary and their mistakes contributed a BUNCH to our ability to move the ball.

On the flip side our own mistakes and penalties did plenty to hinder our offense and stall drives.

 

[jmr667]

That interception wasn't Blake's fault. The receiver did not even TRY to come back and break up the pass.

 

[Assface]

Originally posted by jmr667
That interception wasn't Blake's fault. The receiver did not even TRY to come back and break up the pass.

I think I've heard that somewhere else.....

 

[Redheart]

Re: Re: Just to be complete...

Originally posted by Floridacard
On the flip side our own mistakes and penalties did plenty to hinder our offense and stall drives.

Dead-right Floridacard.

Two GREAT running plays; Emmit than Ship puts us on the two-yard line!

Then two Clement brain-farts gives up 10-yards on false-starts (un-frinking beleivable, and walks back to the huddle with a ****-eating grin on his face...arrrrggggg). On the way to another "delay" flag when Emmitt (who seemed to be the ONLY one watching the clock) burns a time-out to keep us on the 12. Isn't that the QB's responsiblity? This guy is a VET; no excuse.

He looked exhausted, sucking air, too-tired to think.

 

[kerouac9]

Not to mention Blake totally giving up pursuit of Dre Bly running back his TD pick. I rolled my eyes when I saw Blake pull up.

His lack of focus late when the game was still on the line gave me grave concerns about his leadership over the long-term. Look no further than the way that Doug Johnson performed/comported himself int he next game to see how a journeyman QB should comport himself in games.

 

[danny l]

I have to put my opinion in here. We got just about what prior teams got from Blake. I hope that I am wrong, but Blake has been a career long loser. My observation after game 1. He is a guy who seems to want to pad his stats more than win. Two things in particular. One, on his interception that was returned for a TD, he looked to me to have a good chance to tackle the interceptor, but he ran just fast enough to make it look close but he didn't want to make the effort or have the physical contact. Two, at the end of the game when we were trying to catch up, he chose the safe, stat padding passes that were complete rather than being willing to take the chance for interceptions. If I recall correctly this has been a knock on Blake his entire career. He hasn't been considered a team player. This is NOT a Blake vs. Jake thread. And I truly hope that this is a one game thing. But if what I see is accurate I would rather lose with McCown learning on the field than lose with a player who isn't willing to give the effort required to win.
I have been a Cardinal fan to long to ever wish for anyone that wears Cardinal red not to be great, but I have yet to see much from Jeff Blake.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Not to mention Blake totally giving up pursuit of Dre Bly running back his TD pick. I rolled my eyes when I saw Blake pull up.

His lack of focus late when the game was still on the line gave me grave concerns about his leadership over the long-term. Look no further than the way that Doug Johnson performed/comported himself int he next game to see how a journeyman QB should comport himself in games.

Yeah, but Brittany Spears is gonna be a fat pig in about 10 years.
So there.

 

[Russ Smith]

Re: Warning Flags

Originally posted by Redheart
Besides the very good statistics by Blake (consider Quan's monster day sure helped Blakes stats--A LOT)...there were some stuff to be concerned about.

Only one pick, but three that were "shoulda's".

Blake looked tired. Weak. Leathargic. Stumbling on your own toe is a sure sign of tired player. I am worried about his conditioning. Walking up to the line as time runs out, REPEATEDLY, shouts "TIRED PLAYER".

Well he did have a concussion last week I assume that might have something to do with it?

The 3 near picks bugged me too because they were just bad decisions, balls he shouldn't throw.

 

[Assface]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
Yeah, but Brittany Spears is gonna be a fat pig in about 10 years.
So there.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Oh well, as long as she does Playboy soon.

 

[Lex]

This thread has nothing to do with Jake, but since some seem to think we're better off without him, so that's all that matters, then I guess this IS about the difference between how Jake was perceived as opposed to teflon Blake.

We lost. He won. Blake had great stats, in my opinion due to the lack of respect Detroits defense afforded him. Blake had single coverage all day, we ran the ball 20 freaking times. The only reason Emmitt got those two good runs that got him his 65 yards, was it was close to halftime, and the Lions were in prevent, which opened up the LOS. Under the circumstances, we had no choice but to air it out. The only way we're going to keep defenses honest, was to keep putting it up, and HOPEFULLY change future game plans, even at the expense of this game.

Jake had terrible numbers, but a great letter-W. He faced nickel coverage all day, the Bungles decided not to let Jake beat them. I'll bet Clinton Portis is happy with the way this has unfolded.

Plummer is gone, Blake is here. Period. But that doesn't mean Jeff Blake gets a season long pass, at least not from me.

 

[Redheart]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
Yeah, but Brittany Spears is gonna be a fat pig in about 10 years.
So there.

That gives me 9 and 1/2 years to wear it out.

"When she's REALLY excited, she make noises like a chipmunk."

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by danny l
I have to put my opinion in here. We got just about what prior teams got from Blake. I hope that I am wrong, but Blake has been a career long loser. My observation after game 1. He is a guy who seems to want to pad his stats more than win. Two things in particular. One, on his interception that was returned for a TD, he looked to me to have a good chance to tackle the interceptor, but he ran just fast enough to make it look close but he didn't want to make the effort or have the physical contact. Two, at the end of the game when we were trying to catch up, he chose the safe, stat padding passes that were complete rather than being willing to take the chance for interceptions. If I recall correctly this has been a knock on Blake his entire career. He hasn't been considered a team player. This is NOT a Blake vs. Jake thread. And I truly hope that this is a one game thing. But if what I see is accurate I would rather lose with McCown learning on the field than lose with a player who isn't willing to give the effort required to win.
I have been a Cardinal fan to long to ever wish for anyone that wears Cardinal red not to be great, but I have yet to see much from Jeff Blake.

So that explains why the Bengals went from 3-13 to 7-9 and 8-8 by making Blake their Qb? And then went back to 3-13 when they replaced him with O'Donnell?

he's not a career loser he's consistently improved the records of the teams he's joined.

We were only close because of him, he could have had 4-5 td passes if Johnson makes the catch and Boldin makes one more(I can't remember if we ultimately scored on that drive or not).

Most of his yardage was in the first 3 quarters, not the 4th. He had roughly 280 yards before the last 2 drives, and had he tried to force passes against a deep zone he'd have done nothing but throw a pick that doesn't help you at all.

The pick he threw was the killer, that put us down 3 scores.

 

[earthsci]

Originally posted by Lex
But that doesn't mean Jeff Blake gets a season long pass, at least not from me.

Is that because you used up all your passes during the past five years?

 

[Redheart]

Re: Re: Warning Flags

Originally posted by Russ Smith
Well he did have a concussion last week I assume that might have something to do with it?

You know Russ, you may be on to something there. I didn't think the "concussion" was real for a while. I remember Mac giving a classic quote on it and down-playing it, but SOMETHING was taking the wind out of his sail.

As for not throwing his body at Bly, I think that was a good move, there was a LB running interference and would have LOVED to crush him. Remember who we have backing him up...

 

[football karma]

I cant beleive what I am reading. He had a 60%+ completion record and 3 to 1 TD to Int ratio. Jeff Blake didnt lose this game for the Cardinals -- special teams did.

If the Cardinals play half decent special teams, Jeff Blake would (and SHOULD) have spent most of the third and fourth quarters handing off the ball.

As for the pick and near picks, all but one came on three step drop and throw routes. Blake looks much more comfortable on five step drops where he has time to look over the field.

Jake Plummer spent all of the last 5 years looking at man coverage and rarely made a defense pay for it.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Lex
This thread has nothing to do with Jake, but since some seem to think we're better off without him, so that's all that matters, then I guess this IS about the difference between how Jake was perceived as opposed to teflon Blake.

We lost. He won. Blake had great stats, in my opinion due to the lack of respect Detroits defense afforded him. Blake had single coverage all day, we ran the ball 20 freaking times. The only reason Emmitt got those two good runs that got him his 65 yards, was it was close to halftime, and the Lions were in prevent, which opened up the LOS. Under the circumstances, we had no choice but to air it out. The only way we're going to keep defenses honest, was to keep putting it up, and HOPEFULLY change future game plans, even at the expense of this game.

Jake had terrible numbers, but a great letter-W. He faced nickel coverage all day, the Bungles decided not to let Jake beat them. I'll bet Clinton Portis is happy with the way this has unfolded.

Plummer is gone, Blake is here. Period. But that doesn't mean Jeff Blake gets a season long pass, at least not from me.

Lex you are amazing, they won IN SPITE of Jake.

As for Blake, if everything you say is true how come jake had 7 300 yard passing games in 82 starts here and only 3 in the last 4 years? I mean he saw that same defense for most of the last 4 seasons, how come he didn't do what BLake did consistently?

I realize Detroit's pass defense is bad, Blake won't do that every week, but you're just bashing him because you like Jake.

 

[HoodieBets]

People are already making excuses for blake instead of actually seeing what happened. This looks to me like another jake situation where people make excuses then when he screws up enough people bad mouth him and exile him from the city.