Joe Mixon?

[speedy]

where I disagree is she HAS been accountable. In fact she publicly apologized for her actions before he did. She also readily admitted and told the truth that she had made the first physical contact not him.

Well, admittingly I didn't know this much. However, she still hasn't been held criminally liable. Under your rationale, am I to assume that had Mixon been initially forthright, he wouldnt/shouldnt have been charged with criminal crimes either?

She publicly apologized, and admitted she made the first contact with him. He may have initially lied/embellished/had not been forthright about the events (and lets be fair, sometimes we remember hearing or seeing things that just didn't quite happen during stressful moments; I know I have been guilty with an honest heart of it), but otherwise he publicly admitted to striking her, publicly apologized, and paid up through civil action.

Yet, we are seemingly ok with her actions, but still insistent on keeping a foot over his head. He paid the price (criminally, civilly, and through the NCAA), and it still isn't good enough. She gets exonerated of all of her culpability because she issued a public apology. I don't see this any other way but sexist.

I continue to stand by my points on the issue.

 

[Russ Smith]

Well, admittingly I didn't know this much. However, she still hasn't been held criminally liable. Under your rationale, am I to assume that had Mixon been initially forthright, he wouldnt/shouldnt have been charged with criminal crimes either?

She publicly apologized, and admitted she made the first contact with him. He may have initially lied/embellished/had not been forthright about the events (and lets be fair, sometimes we remember hearing or seeing things that just didn't quite happen during stressful moments; I know I have been guilty with an honest heart of it), but otherwise he publicly admitted to striking her, publicly apologized, and paid up through civil action.

Yet, we are seemingly ok with her actions, but still insistent on keeping a foot over his head. He paid the price (criminally, civilly, and through the NCAA), and it still isn't good enough. She gets exonerated of all of her culpability because she issued a public apology. I don't see this any other way but sexist.

I continue to stand by my points on the issue.

Well here's a pretty even handed story to read if you're interested that covers what she has dealt with since it happened.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...cle_1154116d-47ef-5d30-a096-b08fb176ebd0.html


You're right that she suffered no legal consequences but again that's not her fault the tape is out there, if Mixon wants to push for assault charges he could, as could the DA etc. I think most realize incidents like that happen all the time on or near college campuses when alcohol is involved. They just don't usually result in someone getting their face broken and needing 8 hours of surgery, and they don't normally involve a 220 pound football player hitting a 115 pound woman so it's much more sensationalized.

Mixon's attorneys are the ones that released the tape, some of the initial reports said her attorneys did it but they actually didn't want it out there she's trying to get on with her life now the last thing she wanted was her name in the public eye again.

I don't see how he's still being punished unless you mean because he might not get drafted and if he does it'll be much lower. NFL Players make lots of money, draft picks are an investment, as such NFL teams do lots of background checks before they decide to invest in a player. Joe Mixon is unfortunately for him going to fail most of those checks. Mixon still got to play at OU, he still will likely get to play in the NFL, it's just going to take longer and be worth less money but that's another consequence to his actions.

The girl is going to have similar consequences her past issues(Marijuana and alcohol) are now out there publicly, it'll be tougher for her to get a job too.

To me this isn't a situation where one guy is a boxer one guy is a drunk tough guy and the boxer keeps saying dude walk away you don't want to fight me walk away. Mixon says he told her to leave him alone but he's the one that came into the restaurant after her, had he stayed outside this wouldn't have happened. Maybe he went inside to eat but it certainly didn't look that way.

 

[Bodha]

You're right that she suffered no legal consequences but again that's not her fault the tape is out there, if Mixon wants to push for assault charges he could, as could the DA etc.

Because there is a double standard in the world. He knows if he pressed charges against her, it would only make the situation worse. He'd be an even bigger villain. Despite the fact he'd have legal justification to press charges as we both agree.


And she did press charges against him, which blows my mind.

Im going to walk outside, smack the 1st guy I see in the face, and then sue him when he kicks my butt.

 

[splitsecond]

interesting that people think it's appropriate that someone should suffer massive pecuniary loss and suffer forever because of one bad act when he was what, 18? 19? interesting indeed.

Honestly, the worst party involved in this is Oklahoma for not dealing with this appropriately and simply expelling Mixon from the program. If they had, he could have dealt with things similarly to how Tyreek Hill did and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[Russ Smith]

interesting that people think it's appropriate that someone should suffer massive pecuniary loss and suffer forever because of one bad act when he was what, 18? 19? interesting indeed.

Honestly, the worst party involved in this is Oklahoma for not dealing with this appropriately and simply expelling Mixon from the program. If they had, he could have dealt with things similarly to how Tyreek Hill did and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

There wasn't a video of Hill which complicates things for Mixon.

I haven't read up on the Hill case but I don't think he lied to police either.

OU handled it terribly but then they insist Mixon lied to them too. That may just be CYA from Stoops.

as for suffering financial loss I'm not sure what people want, do people think NFL teams should be compelled to pretend they don't know what Mixon did and just draft him based on pure football? It's a business. They know perfectly well what he did, they know it will be a very negative PR hit to draft him at all, let alone draft him early. They also know they're taking a big risk on the kid because this might be a sign he has violence issues.

he's done tons of counseling and community service, maybe he'll never do something like this again but there's a consequence to that sort of action and he's facing it.

 

[Russ Smith]

Because there is a double standard in the world. He knows if he pressed charges against her, it would only make the situation worse. He'd be an even bigger villain. Despite the fact he'd have legal justification to press charges as we both agree.


And she did press charges against him, which blows my mind.

Im going to walk outside, smack the 1st guy I see in the face, and then sue him when he kicks my butt.

Actually we don't agree other than to say you can press charges for anything. I'm not at all convinced if charges were filed she'd be found guilty of assault as you keep calling it.

I think it would end up getting plead down to something much less, she'd do community service and counseling, just like he did, but likely without the 1 year deferred jail time because she didn't inflict serious bodily harm on someone like he did.

 

[Southpaw]

Thanks for the link to her story. Have wondered what initialized the two of them coming into contact with each other since they didn't know each other. Seems Joe Mixon started the "incident" by using a homosexual slur against her companion. Ain't that classy? Woman beating homophobe.

 

[Russ Smith]

Thanks for the link to her story. Have wondered what initialized the two of them coming into contact with each other since they didn't know each other. Seems Joe Mixon started the "incident" by using a homosexual slur against her companion. Ain't that classy? Woman beating homophobe.

Yeah it's a good story and from the video you can sort of believe her claim about the homophobic slur because you can see there's some exchange involving him and the male friend she's with. Whether it's a slur or not who knows I've never had the sound on when watching the video, but there is clearly an interaction between him and the guy. and of course that's the guy that Mixon initially told police he believed had hit him when he retaliated with the punch because "it felt like I got hit by a dude."

Once they saw the video and realized he was looking right at her when it all happened they knew he was lying.

 

[Cardiac]

Mixon has anger management issues and is a classless dbag. Yes he was pushed but his response was over the top and unacceptable against a woman or a man.

He needs to go through counseling and needs to devote his life to some kind of community service.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

 

[Southpaw]

Devolution.

 

[Russ Smith]

Mixon has anger management issues and is a classless dbag. Yes he was pushed but his response was over the top and unacceptable against a woman or a man.

He needs to go through counseling and needs to devote his life to some kind of community service.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

To be fair he did 36 weeks of counseling and anger management and several 100 hours of community service. The problem is just about the time the he has done his time comments were out there, it came out that he had a run in with a guy in the OU parking lot who issued him a parking ticket and Mixon tore the ticket up in front of him and threw the paper in his face.

made it seem like he might need more counseling.

 

[Cardiac]

Thanks for the info Russ and yes he needs more counseling. He actually needs a shrink to dig deep to find out why he has such a short fuse.

 

[speedy]

To be fair he did 36 weeks of counseling and anger management and several 100 hours of community service. The problem is just about the time the he has done his time comments were out there, it came out that he had a run in with a guy in the OU parking lot who issued him a parking ticket and Mixon tore the ticket up in front of him and threw the paper in his face.

made it seem like he might need more counseling.

C'mon dude. The fact Mixon was present/in the vicinity enough to allegedly tear up the ticket and throw it in the guys face makes me highly suspicious.

Most professional "enforcement" types would say : "Sir you have to move your vehicle; this is not a place you can park." They wou

I give little consideration to this supposed "act," and I am starting to believe you have your own beef with the kid Russ.

Thanks for the info Russ and yes he needs more counseling. He actually needs a shrink to dig deep to find out why he has such a short fuse.

Maybe that's what makes him an elite athlete on the field.

Maybe most everyone on an NFL field is nuts.

Maybe your assumptions aren't educated ones.

 

[Cardiac]

C'mon dude. The fact Mixon was present/in the vicinity enough to allegedly tear up the ticket and throw it in the guys face makes me highly suspicious.

Most professional "enforcement" types would say : "Sir you have to move your vehicle; this is not a place you can park." They wou

I give little consideration to this supposed "act," and I am starting to believe you have your own beef with the kid Russ.


Maybe that's what makes him an elite athlete on the field.

Maybe most everyone on an NFL field is nuts.

Maybe your assumptions aren't educated ones.

Maybe there are a ton of examples of elite athletes that don't punch women and break their face. Maybe just maybe you are related to Mixon or have issues of your own.

 

[Southpaw]

Joe Mixon's parking ticket tirade will be airing on A & E Parking Wars.

Don't tell him where to park and don't criticize him for making slurs to perceived homosexuals. This guy has a warped psyche.

 

[Russ Smith]

C'mon dude. The fact Mixon was present/in the vicinity enough to allegedly tear up the ticket and throw it in the guys face makes me highly suspicious.

Most professional "enforcement" types would say : "Sir you have to move your vehicle; this is not a place you can park." They wou

I give little consideration to this supposed "act," and I am starting to believe you have your own beef with the kid Russ.


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I don't think there's video of it and most of the stories have very little detail.

http://www.oudaily.com/sports/oklah...cle_ed5bc1f2-a2c2-11e6-bd74-472d2ef21901.html

The one that makes it sound like Mixon is lucky he just got a 1 game suspension is this one that says Mixon actually tried to intimidate the parking attendant by driving at them with his car.

http://us.pressfrom.com/news/sports...ixon-drove-at-parking-attendant-after-ticket/

his own attorney said in a statement that it was a step back for Joe having done lots of counseling it's unfortunate he didn't handle the situation better.

I've seen mixed reports on it but the 2nd story is the one that makes it seem the worst.

 

[oaken1]

so,...all that being said....


pick him in the fifth round??

 

[TRW]

Joe Mixon? No thanks, I'd pass on this guy. Let some other team take on his issues/talents.

 

[Russ Smith]

so,...all that being said....


pick him in the fifth round??

I think that's about the round people might consider taking him. People being not the Cards since I don't think we'll take him at all.

 

[Ronin]

Around The NFL Retweeted
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[Bodha]

so,...all that being said....


pick him in the fifth round??

What a abhorrent little game to play. The issue is not "do we take a girl-puncher". The game is "when is the earliest we can draft him and not look bad?"

If you had a hardline on that stuff, you take him off the board. But that wont happen because hes an elite talent and this sport is about winning.

So theres this big chess match between all teams who want to draft him, but have to figure out what round makes it OK.

hilarious

 

[Southpaw]

Exactly. I heard him on the Rich Eisen show today. He is only sorry he got caught on camera. Haven't heard him self denigrate yet. Asked where did this punch reaction come from and his canned response is "I am doing community service".

 

[Ronin]

Evan Silva‏Verified account@evansilva 32m32 minutes ago
Evan Silva Retweeted Rotoworld Football

PFT's sources say Joe Mixon "may be waiting beyond round 2 or 3," and one suggested Mixon "won't be drafted at all."

 

[RugbyMuffin]

De-civilzation.

FTFY.

Because this all has to do with an incident that is "bad" per civilized society, and morals. This has nothing to do with primal instincts and biological evolution.

And the "good and bad" part, I will let you all debate. I have no comment. I just see two people acting poorly.

When it comes to football, Mixon knows the law of the land, and the morals dictated in the society he lives in.

Calling out offensive things to people, and then physically hitting a woman as well ? That just shows ignorance, and lack of judgement. Enough so, that I would not want him drafted or even signed as a UDFA.

 

[Bodha]

Evan Silva‏Verified account@evansilva 32m32 minutes ago
Evan Silva Retweeted Rotoworld Football

PFT's sources say Joe Mixon "may be waiting beyond round 2 or 3," and one suggested Mixon "won't be drafted at all."

Nonsense. I fully expect round 3-4

If he makes it to us in round 4 we better take him. At least Keim can make the excuse "we have a history of taking trouble players". Which is just a lie to cover the bad PR. We took him because he will help us win alot of games