Kidd close to being a Maverick again

[Trophytown]

KVH never submitted any retirement paperwork to the league. There was nothing on file with the league offices in NYC. KVH stated himself during interviews a while back that he "stepped away" from the game. So please refrain from all the skepticism of this KVH addition to this trade and base it on facts............

 

[abomb]

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[jlove]

With as pretty as Jamana (however you spell it) is, her and Jason sure do have some fugly kids.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Kidd aint ugly in any regard, but their kids just have these huge round heads. Shame on the wife for not passing on any hot genes.

 

[jbeecham]

KVH never submitted any retirement paperwork to the league. There was nothing on file with the league offices in NYC. KVH stated himself during interviews a while back that he "stepped away" from the game. So please refrain from all the skepticism of this KVH addition to this trade and base it on facts............

Yes it's legal by NBA rules to include KVH in the trade because the Mavs still own his rights, but the fact that KVH has no intention of playing any basketball for NJ makes it shady. Also NJ doesn't want KVH on their team so it really is a way for the Mavs to circumvent the salary cap. I really don't have a problem with it because I think this trade makes the Mavs worse. I had a bigger problem with Aaron McKie being included in the Gasol trade and the NBA allowing that to happen then. McKie has no intentions on ever playing basketball again and was actually volunteering as an assistant coach for another NBA team.

 

[sunsbo]

Didn't read through all the pages, but its now official.

 

[Andrew]

I think its funny people are making a big deal out of all of this. This makes the Mavericks worse in every sense, they got one less big guy for interior defense and they aren't getting past the 2nd round with Kidd against the Suns, Spurs, Lakers or even the Jazz.

 

[abomb]

Jourmama Kidd is NOT hot.

 

[BeeBeard]

With as pretty as Jamana (however you spell it) is, her and Jason sure do have some fugly kids.

Don't be fooled, Kidd's wife is as pretty as cosmetic surgery can make her.

I mean look at this. (mildly NSFW).

Boob job, nose job, face lift...yeah, not all that impressive, to be honest. The children will be put under the knife too when they're old enough, I'm sure.

 

[az1965]

So Cuban got a 34 year old much expensive point guard after not resigning a 30 year old point guard for less because he was getting to a point when body starts to break...??? Sounds like a big Oops!

 

[az1965]

Jourmama Kidd is NOT hot.

No she is not...

 

[BeeBeard]

So Cuban got a 34 year old much expensive point guard after not resigning a 30 year old point guard for less because he was getting to a point when body starts to break...??? Sounds like a big Oops!

Oh, absolutely. I still think this is Marc Cuban trying to make up for the loss of Nash ("the one that got away") and to some smaller extent, the loss of Kidd the first time under different ownership. I love that Cuban has the guts to make deals like this. It's going to be a lot of fun watching the No-win-ski / Howard / Terry kernel gel around Kidd. And don't forget, if this trade works out well for the Mavs, then Cuban ends up looking like a supergenius. How could he resist the chance for acclaim like that?

 

[TheHopToad]

I think Cuban relapsed back into the rich businessman's thinking with this trade. It doesn't make them a better team and compromises their future, but Kidd is a popular player in the league and will be more marketable and is a better story than Devin Harris or DeSegana Diop. File this under "bad publicity is better than no publicity".

Even though they were a better team before this deal, the Mavericks were still going nowhere in this year's Western Conference and Cuban knew it. At least people will be talking about them for a while now.

 

[ShuHanGuanYu]

I think Cuban relapsed back into the rich businessman's thinking with this trade. It doesn't make them a better team and compromises their future, but Kidd is a popular player in the league and will be more marketable and is a better story than Devin Harris or DeSegana Diop. File this under "bad publicity is better than no publicity".

Even though they were a better team before this deal, the Mavericks were still going nowhere in this year's Western Conference and Cuban knew it. At least people will be talking about them for a while now.

I'm not a Cuban fan, but it's clear to me that this guy just wants to win. I can't help but doubt the marketability angle. He saw what many others saw. Dallas offense was stagnant as hell. Jason Kidd seems like the sort of team leader and passer that they sorely needed out of their point guard spot.

Now, I believe the problem still lies in that they take too many jump shots and Dirk still refuses to punish players inside. They are a jump shooting team that has some slashing ability. Consistent post presence is lacking. One-on-one offense is definitely in abundance. They were at their best when Dirk was focused on improving their post play...and his favorite 20-feet-out post ups do not count.

 

[devilalum]

Did anybody see Insider today?

Says Avery lobbied hard to trade Dirk during the off season. I don't think there is any cure for the disease Dirk has. Looks Like the Little General agrees.

 

[BeeBeard]

Did anybody see Insider today?

Says Avery lobbied hard to trade Dirk during the off season. I don't think there is any cure for the disease Dirk has. Looks Like the Little General agrees.

Cuban posted on his blog today that that reporter is basically just a huge liar and that Avery Johnson never asked him to trade Dirk at all.

edit: Here's the link: http://www.blogmaverick.com/2008/02/19/doing-the-deal-and-dishing-the-dirt/

If it were somebody different, I would be suspicious, but I'm inclined to believe Cuban on this one; Peter Vescey and everybody he uses as "sources" are pretty much always wrong.

 

[ShuHanGuanYu]

Context is important. If this is even true, think about who was available at the time. Big ticket > MVNot. Who wouldn't lobby?

 

[Assface]

I've always felt the matching salaries in a trade is kinda dumb.

 

[Lorenzo]

I'm not a Cuban fan, but it's clear to me that this guy just wants to win. I can't help but doubt the marketability angle. He saw what many others saw. Dallas offense was stagnant as hell. Jason Kidd seems like the sort of team leader and passer that they sorely needed out of their point guard spot.

Now, I believe the problem still lies in that they take too many jump shots and Dirk still refuses to punish players inside. They are a jump shooting team that has some slashing ability. Consistent post presence is lacking. One-on-one offense is definitely in abundance. They were at their best when Dirk was focused on improving their post play...and his favorite 20-feet-out post ups do not count.

finally agree with someone. of course kidd makes the mavs better right now. the mavs want to win now and they figure they had to go after a HOF PG like kidd if he was being shopped. the guy averages a near triple double per game and brings strength to an area in which the mavs have the worst weakness. clearly the suns made a similiar decision in bringing in shaq. they looked at their weakness and addressed it. did they give up a lot......yeah. but I don't see how people can put the mavericks so far behind anyone else in the west to include phoenix or anyone else. Just look at the mavs current record vs. the west. it isn't bad. SA isn't exactly dominating and dallas has had their number somewhat anyhow. now does kidd change things.......yes but imo for the better. so that should improve their chances. as far as dirk......I agree. I think he needs to go down closer to the basket more often. but the guy is a great perimeter player. you still want him to do the things he does well. and I understand people making fun of him because he lost in the finals and got shut down by GS last year. but the guy still has as many wins as anyone in phoenix does to include nash. nash still hasn't even brought any of his high powered offensive teams out of the west. and chokewitzki managed to do it without steve.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I've always felt the matching salaries in a trade is kinda dumb.

A good way distract how silly it is to match salaries is to combine it with 40 pages of rules and regulations to make it confusing.

Because confusing and dumb is easier to mask than plain old dumb.

 

[az1965]

Kidd's name then came up almost immediately after the Mavs' Golden State debacle and became a serious option once this season started and word reached Dallas that this was Kidd's preferred destination. Remember, too, that bashing Cuban over Nash at this precise moment means doing so when he just responded to the Kidd trade featuring Stackhouse and Devean George that collapsed last Wednesday by signing off on a reconfigured Kidd deal that will cost him $11-plus million extra this season alone.
When he was inevitably questioned Tuesday about his willingness to spend today for a 34-year-old after the hard-line stance he took on Nash at 30, Cuban said: "We weren't signing [Kidd] for six years, which was the difference in the past."

But Nash was also 4 years younger at the time... I'm not sure I agree with his argument.