Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

[blindseyed]

All for no turnovers.
K1 had a bad game today. It’s really the first of the season for him but you would think it has been going on all year based on this topic.

There is nothing weird about where I took your post. I was simply stating that the purpose of this was not appreciation on Stouts part.

He goes from an appreciation thread to saying K1 is ass????

He is not a K1 fan and never has been.

Again, just cuz I commented on a thread that he started has nothing to do with me.. weird

 

[slanidrac16]

I said the one flaw this WR core has is that no one is really a burner like that. MHJ is a long strider. Wilson is a very good route router, but clearly not fast. Dortch is more quick & elusive than anything. Zay Jones is older.

Dudes that can catch most of the tough catches, which fits Kyler’s skillset the best, but really no burners.

Crossing patterns and more crossing patterns will help.
But for crossing patterns to REALLY be effective the ball needs to come out on time and the Wr needs to be lead.

I don’t think Kyler can do this. That’s why most times are WR’s are hooked up or running straight down the field. MHJ breaking off his route would leave the defender in the dust. However, again the ball has to be thrown to the spot.

 

[Stout]

You have an issue with Stout then tag him and say that to him
I was stating a legit positive I saw in the game today

I bag on his favorite team when he plays poorly: Kyler. That, he cannot handle.

 

[Stout]

All for no turnovers.
K1 had a bad game today. It’s really the first of the season for him but you would think it has been going on all year based on this topic.

There is nothing weird about where I took your post. I was simply stating that the purpose of this was not appreciation on Stouts part.

He goes from an appreciation thread to saying K1 is ass????

He is not a K1 fan and never has been.

Right, I'm a Cards fan. Try it sometime.

Call me crazy, but when a QB plays well, I like him, and when he doesn't, I bag on him for it. I mean, that's normal for a football fan, but I should be all starry eyed when Kyler takes bad sack after bad sack, I guess? That's how you win championships?

 

[CardNots]

For better or worse until death do us part. Doing the worse part today…

 

[Chopper0080]

Yup. He’s like a fast, tiny version of Sam Bradford. Captain Checkdown with wheels… that he’s not quite big enough to get the most out of because he’s afraid he’ll get hurt with a lot of contact.

Alex Smith for me.

 

[Chopper0080]

Crossing patterns and more crossing patterns will help.
But for crossing patterns to REALLY be effective the ball needs to come out on time and the Wr needs to be lead.

I don’t think Kyler can do this. That’s why most times are WR’s are hooked up or running straight down the field. MHJ breaking off his route would leave the defender in the dust. However, again the ball has to be thrown to the spot.

It also is tough if Kyler is hitting guys right out of their breaks. It is, IMO, why we see so many contested catches.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Stout]

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Then maybe he should audible to his own number to run more, and Petzing could call more QB runs.

 

[BritCard]

It's astounding people still defend Kyler.

Kliff, the person they blamed for all his woes, came into State Farm with a mobile rookie QB in his 4th game and destroyed us. Daniels performance yesterday was top 5 Kyler all time.

Kliff literally brought in Kyler MK2 and said "See, it wasn't me" and people are still finding ways to excuse it.

The same people that have been saying Petzing offense is much better than Kliff's are now blaming him.

Maybe it really is just Kyler?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Alex Smith for me.

Smith was much more consistent.

 

[slanidrac16]

It's astounding people still defend Kyler.

Kliff, the person they blamed for all his woes, came into State Farm with a mobile rookie QB in his 4th game and destroyed us. Daniels performance yesterday was top 5 Kyler all time.

Kliff literally brought in Kyler MK2 and said "See, it wasn't me" and people are still finding ways to excuse it.

The same people that have been saying Petzing offense is much better than Kliff's are now blaming him.

Maybe it really is just Kyler?

Get ready to duck…

 

[Stout]

Smith was much more consistent.

Didn't he also win playoff games here and there?

 

[Stout]

Smith was much more consistent.

I came back to this post because I had the damning realization that Kyler will never be the QB Alex Smith was. Wow!

 

[TheCardFan]

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[kerouac9]

Kyler loves to protect his stats.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I came back to this post because I had the damning realization that Kyler will never be the QB Alex Smith was. Wow!

Is there a Kyler Murray Depreciation Thread yet?

 

[Stout]

Is there a Kyler Murray Depreciation Thread yet?

I think that's all the other threads

 

[602 Native]

Is there a Kyler Murray Depreciation Thread yet?

Youre in it

 

[Chopper0080]

Kyler loves to protect his stats.

I agree with this. He seems very mindful of them. I think there is a reason he takes a sack instead of throwing the ball away. Two reasons actually. It doesn't hurt his completion % and it increases his pressure rates.

 

[WakeForestCard]

I agree with this. He seems very mindful of them. I think there is a reason he takes a sack instead of throwing the ball away. Two reasons actually. It doesn't hurt his completion % and it increases his pressure rates.

Eh. Him caring that much about his completion percentage doesn't really match up with him having the 5th most air yards / attempt in the league & 4th highest deep pass % in the league, and increasing pressure rates when he's only the 25th most pressured QB (as a %) in the league.

A much simpler answer is he just genuinely doesn't know what to do in some situations, freezes, and gets sacked. Would also explain his getting sacked on 26.3% of his pressures (7th highest rate in the league).

 

[kerouac9]

Eh. Him caring that much about his completion percentage doesn't really match up with him having the 5th most air yards / attempt in the league & 4th highest deep pass % in the league, and increasing pressure rates when he's only the 25th most pressured QB (as a %) in the league.

A much simpler answer is he just genuinely doesn't know what to do in some situations, freezes, and gets sacked. Would also explain his getting sacked on 26.3% of his pressures (7th highest rate in the league).

Dude he never throws the ball away

 

[WakeForestCard]

Dude he never throws the ball away

Yeah I know. That comes with the whole “freeze” aspect when I said he “doesn’t know what to do and freezes.”

It’s a critique of him. Not an endorsement. I’m just attributing the issue to incompetence instead of malice (protecting his stats).

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yeah I know. That comes with the whole “freeze” aspect when I said he “doesn’t know what to do and freezes.”

It’s a critique of him. Not an endorsement. I’m just attributing the issue to incompetence instead of malice (protecting his stats).

Yeah… I don’t think he’s thinking “oh, no my completion percentage is at stake” in that moment. I think he just locks up and gets scared of getting hit and eats the ball as opposed to throwing and opening himself up for a bigger hit.

 

[Chopper0080]

Yeah… I don’t think he’s thinking “oh, no my completion percentage is at stake” in that moment. I think he just locks up and gets scared of getting hit and eats the ball as opposed to throwing and opening himself up for a bigger hit.

I don't think Kyler considers his completion percentage in the moment, but I feel it is something he has been concerned/protected about since he came into the league. He has never thrown the ball away both in the pocket or outside of it. He takes losses behind the LOS instead of just tossing it out of bounds. Somehow he has been coached/taught to not throw the ball away which the only reason not to is to preserve your comp%.