Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

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I don't think Kyler considers his completion percentage in the moment, but I feel it is something he has been concerned/protected about since he came into the league. He has never thrown the ball away both in the pocket or outside of it. He takes losses behind the LOS instead of just tossing it out of bounds. Somehow he has been coached/taught to not throw the ball away which the only reason not to is to preserve your comp%.
Is that really the only reason? What if when you go to throw it away you get hit by a defender you lost track of and it leads to a turnover? It's not about his completion percentage, but protecting the ball and at times to the team's detriment.
 

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Is that really the only reason? What if when you go to throw it away you get hit by a defender you lost track of and it leads to a turnover? It's not about his completion percentage, but protecting the ball and at times to the team's detriment.
This could be accurate, but I have never known any coach to coach this behavior. Inside the pocket, potentially yes, but outside the pocket and heading to the sideline...never.
 

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I agree with this. He seems very mindful of them. I think there is a reason he takes a sack instead of throwing the ball away. Two reasons actually. It doesn't hurt his completion % and it increases his pressure rates.
K1 Detractors
"K1 doesn't care about football. He wants to be a baseball player and vIdEO GAmez jUNky."

Also K1 Detractors
"K1 cares so much about his legacy that he is refusing to throw picks."
 

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K1 Detractors
"K1 doesn't care about football. He wants to be a baseball player and vIdEO GAmez jUNky."

Also K1 Detractors
"K1 cares so much about his legacy that he is refusing to throw picks."
This is honestly hilarious.

It's not about "legacy" it's about stat-padding for the next contract/so he can point the finger elsewhere.
 

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Pardon my ignorance, what does stan post mean exactly?

I could be completely wrong, but when I hear this I always think of the eminem song "Stan", which he raps about this crazy fan named Stan.

Stan is eminem's self-proclaimed "biggest fan" and so fanatically devoted to the rapper that he eventually kills himself just because eminem didn't write back to him in time after Stan reached out to him a couple of times.

So then, fans of players who are over-devoted to the player are therefore referred to as "Stans".

I'm old AF though so I'm probably incorrect.
 

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I could be completely wrong, but when I hear this I always think of the eminem song "Stan", which he raps about this crazy fan named Stan.

Stan is eminem's self-proclaimed "biggest fan" and so fanatically devoted to the rapper that he eventually kills himself just because eminem didn't write back to him in time after Stan reached out to him a couple of times.

So then, fans of players who are over-devoted to the player are therefore referred to as "Stans".

I'm old AF though so I'm probably incorrect.
That’s pretty much it.
 

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This is honestly hilarious.

It's not about "legacy" it's about stat-padding for the next contract/so he can point the finger elsewhere.
You guys are beyond help.

The 4d chess you guys go through to discredit a good player is hilarious.

“He plays it safe so he can’t be blamed.”

Who knew K1 was that deep as a villain.
 

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You guys are beyond help.

The 4d chess you guys go through to discredit a good player is hilarious.

“He plays it safe so he can’t be blamed.”

Who knew K1 was that deep as a villain.
Lotta excuses being made for pocket Kirk Cousins. Throwing short of the sticks on first down, taking sacks/running OOB behind the LOS instead of throwing it away… what are the alternate explanations for these behaviors?

All you offer is head-shaking denial.
 

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Lotta excuses being made for pocket Kirk Cousins. Throwing short of the sticks on first down, taking sacks/running OOB behind the LOS instead of throwing it away… what are the alternate explanations for these behaviors?

All you offer is head-shaking denial.
He’s right it’s not some 4D chess to get a contract in 2-3 years. Not like NFL GM’s and scouts simply look at ESPN player profile stats to make decisions on quarterbacks.

I personally think it’s a physical thing. His arm doesn’t have the same zip it did a few years ago and so his confidence is lacking.
 

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The turns this thread has taken in 2.5 weeks are crazy.

I don't know which side is right, although I lean toward Kyler not being the main issue, but I do know that all of this losing is taking a serious toll on us as fans.

SOC
 

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Lotta excuses being made for pocket Kirk Cousins. Throwing short of the sticks on first down, taking sacks/running OOB behind the LOS instead of throwing it away… what are the alternate explanations for these behaviors?

All you offer is head-shaking denial.
For clarity sake: Kyler is one of 5 players in the NFL thus far whose average throw goes past the sticks.

His AYTS (Air Yards to the Sticks : This measures average distance past or behind the sticks all throws are) is .2 yards (averaging .2 yards past the sticks).

The only players in the league higher are: Richardson (3.2), Lawrence (1.8), Purdy (1.7) and Love (.9)

Just want to make sure we’re using appropriate critiques (of which there are many).
 

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For clarity sake: Kyler is one of 5 players in the NFL thus far whose average throw goes past the sticks.

His AYTS (Air Yards to the Sticks : This measures average distance past or behind the sticks all throws are) is .2 yards (averaging .2 yards past the sticks).

The only players in the league higher are: Richardson (3.2), Lawrence (1.8), Purdy (1.7) and Love (.9)

Just want to make sure we’re using appropriate critiques (of which there are many).
here we go again throwing around facts like they’re facts:)
 
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