Kyler Murray Debate Thread

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There is always recency bias, but the game vs Miami might be the best passing game I have seen from Kyler in his career.
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Especially since that turned out to be a Super Bowl defense.
Edit: Sorry you said passing not overall game. Maybe.
 

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Let it go dude. You love Kyler. We love Kyler. The only difference is we are emotionally capable of giving an unbiased opinion while evaluating his play.
 

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Let it go dude. You love Kyler. We love Kyler. The only difference is we are emotionally capable of giving an unbiased opinion while evaluating his play.

77 people said get rid of K1 just this season so obviously that is not the case.

I am all for critiquing the dude but wanting to get rid of our best player for the crap in the draft or as a FA is suicide for a franchise that has only had 7 winning seasons in its history of being here in AZ.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. K1 is not perfect and no QB is but have some perspective of who this franchise has historically been.
 

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77 people said get rid of K1 just this season so obviously that is not the case.

I am all for critiquing the dude but wanting to get rid of our best player for the crap in the draft or as a FA is suicide for a franchise that has only had 7 winning seasons in its history of being here in AZ.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. K1 is not perfect and no QB is but have some perspective of who this franchise has historically been.
Okay… but you are not “ all for critiquing “. I can’t recall one instance where you have ever found ANY fault in Kyler’s play.
Brace yourself. If Kyler lays an egg Sunday against the Bears, BTW,a very good defense, he will get “ critiqued “
Again.
 

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Okay… but you are not “ all for critiquing “. I can’t recall one instance where you have ever found ANY fault in Kyler’s play.
Brace yourself. If Kyler lays an egg Sunday against the Bears, BTW,a very good defense, he will get “ critiqued “
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K1 rarely lays eggs and the Bears have beaten no one of significance.

Go check the gameday threads I have talked about K1 before.
 

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This is always an interesting statement. I am curious how you rank the top 10 franchise QBs.
Are there 22 other QBs you would take other than K1 in the NFL?

We know Watson and Trevor lawerence aren't on the board any longer. :cool:

There shouldn't be a week to week response to the QB of whether to keep him or get rid of him based on wins/loses.

He ain't going anywhere and JG, MO, and even little Mikey would tell you that.
 

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Are there 22 other QBs you would take other than K1 in the NFL?

We know Watson and Trevor lawerence aren't on the board any longer. :cool:

There shouldn't be a week to week response to the QB of whether to keep him or get rid of him based on wins/loses.

He ain't going anywhere and JG, MO, and even little Mikey would tell you that.
All I asked was how you ranked the top 10 NFL franchise QBs? I am not sure why that question resulted in this response.
 

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K1 rarely lays eggs and the Bears have beaten no one of significance.

Go check the gameday threads I have talked about K1 before.
I can only participate in game day chats at commercial breaks since lag time puts me about 30-40 seconds behind.
The Bears have not played the toughest schedule but I believe they have held opponents under 21 points for like 13 games in a row and going into Sunday lead the league in turnovers.
Let’s not forget the held the Pigskins to 9 pts aside from the fluke play.
That’s the same team that laid a 40 burger on us. Don’t sleep on the Bears.
 

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I can only participate in game day chats at commercial breaks since lag time puts me about 30-40 seconds behind.
The Bears have not played the toughest schedule but I believe they have held opponents under 21 points for like 13 games in a row and going into Sunday lead the league in turnovers.
Let’s not forget the held the Pigskins to 9 pts aside from the fluke play.
That’s the same team that laid a 40 burger on us. Don’t sleep on the Bears.
The bears will be as tough to beat as any team that we have beaten this year. That D is real, and they have the weapons on offense to expose us
 

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Dude he has about 5 good quarters of passing all season and I can count good games on two hands (probably one hand TBH) since week 10 2021.

He literally just had the 2nd game of his career with over 300 yards, 2 TD's and 0 interceptions in year 6. Something Patrick Mahomes did in his first 4 starts in the league and 16 times by this stage of his career. Something it took even Gardner Minshew only 19 games to achieve.

He had a great 2nd half on Sunday, but you're dreaming if you think he's a top 10 franchise QB because of one game. If he plays like that the rest of the season then yeah, but Kyler's problem is that he's wildly inconsistent.
 
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Dude he has about 5 good quarters of passing all season and I can count good games on two hands (probably one hand TBH) since week 10 2021.

He literally just had the 2nd game of his career with over 300 yards, 2 TD's and 0 interceptions in year 6. Something Patrick Mahomes did in his first 4 starts in the league and 16 times by this stage of his career. Something it took even Gardner Minshew on 19 games to achieve.

He had a great 2nd half on Sunday, buy your dreaming if you think he's a top 10 franchise QB because of one game. If he plays like that the rest of the season then yeah, but Kyler's problem is that he's wildly inconsistent.
Stop Brit. All you’re going to get in response is the talent around Kyler is lacking.
 

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I can only participate in game day chats at commercial breaks since lag time puts me about 30-40 seconds behind.
The Bears have not played the toughest schedule but I believe they have held opponents under 21 points for like 13 games in a row and going into Sunday lead the league in turnovers.
Let’s not forget the held the Pigskins to 9 pts aside from the fluke play.
That’s the same team that laid a 40 burger on us. Don’t sleep on the Bears.
The Redmanders were by far the better team. The officiating was absolutely putrid in the game and kept the Bears in it.

No game is easy but we have faced way better teams this season than the Bears. My main concern is our defense because they do have weapons and can run the ball and we let QBs setup picnics on pass plays.

Hoping MHJ now has confidence. You know Trey and Conner will show up.
 

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Dude he has about 5 good quarters of passing all season and I can count good games on two hands (probably one hand TBH) since week 10 2021.

He literally just had the 2nd game of his career with over 300 yards, 2 TD's and 0 interceptions in year 6. Something Patrick Mahomes did in his first 4 starts in the league and 16 times by this stage of his career. Something it took even Gardner Minshew on 19 games to achieve.

He had a great 2nd half on Sunday, buy your dreaming if you think he's a top 10 franchise QB because of one game. If he plays like that the rest of the season then yeah, but Kyler's problem is that he's wildly inconsistent.
So when should we trade or cut him?
 
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