Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[kerouac9]

he will likely sink below Murray performance wise over a full 34 game stretch.

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[Crimson Warrior]

You kind of have to be viewer based to have any hope for a guy who has not one single significant W in his portfolio. We're not going to compare him to Warner because he will not shine in that comparison. Once he's won Super Bowls, playoff games, or even a clinching game to get to the playoffs, we can start excusing the ups and downs. We're in year 6 and he's led the team nowhere. I get the argument that this is a bad team and that has to be taken into consideration, so, if we set the previous aside, and aside from our preseason expectations thread, where we stated our minimum stats required, what else do we have to go off but what we see on the field?

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Is that it? I can't precisely define good QB play, but I know it when I see it? Fine Stout! We'll disagree again for now.

I admit Murray's 2024 performance grade certainly still hangs in the balance, but if MHJ plays the rest of the season like he did this past Sunday, you'll be doubting Kyler Murray at your own peril!

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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Remember how in 2023 CJ Stroud was the darling of the NFL? And how during that season the Never Murray's on AFSN were proclaiming their love and admiration for CJ, and would have done anything to make Stroud the Cardinal's QB1 instead of the brave and courageous Kyler Murray?

Well, well, well kerouac9. How the tables have turned. Wouldn't be quite so quick to take Stroud over Murray now, would we?

The exact same thing is going to happen with Daniels, and it fact it might even be worse since he has Klownsbury as his OC, who is notorious for his 2nd-half-of-the-season fades.

 

[kerouac9]

Remember how in 2023 CJ Stroud was the darling of the NFL? And how during that season the Never Murray's on AFSN were proclaiming their love and admiration for CJ, and would have done anything to make Stroud the Cardinal's QB1 instead of the brave and courageous Kyler Murray?

Well, well, well kerouac9. How the tables have turned. Wouldn't be quite so quick to take Stroud over Murray now, would we?

The exact same thing is going to happen with Daniels, and it fact it might even be worse since he has Klownsbury as his OC, who is notorious for his 2nd-half-of-the-season fades.

I’d still take Stroud over Murray. The Texans beat the Bills. Stroud has over 2100 yards passing.

 

[602 Native]

It's maybe the most frustrating thing about being a big Murray fan, is that, a lot of the guys on here would trade him for whatever QB just had a good game last week.

J. Daniels is a great example. 90% of the main K1 detractors here would trade Murray right this second for Daniels, and wouldn't think twice about it.

It doesn't matter that Daniels' inevitable regression is coming, and he will likely sink below Murray performance wise over a full 34 game stretch.

The Never Murray's are just that desperate to get rid of Kyler and draft the next Trevor Lawrence because they think it will "make the team better".

Murray is giving this sad sack franchise everything he's got, but they want to throw him out like yesterday's garbage. It's pretty offputting.

Hahahaha

"Never Murrays"

Now that is a great name

They don't want us to get ride of K1 now though they want it in 2026

 

[602 Native]

I’d still take Stroud over Murray. The Texans beat the Bills. Stroud has over 2100 yards passing.

And yet without Collins and Diggs Stroud has looked like dog doo.

Amazing what happens to QBs without weapons.

 

[kerouac9]

And yet without Collins and Diggs Stroud has looked like dog doo.

Amazing what happens to QBs without weapons.

LOL. People taking a victory lap one a one-game sample size. Okay then.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’d still take Stroud over Murray. The Texans beat the Bills. Stroud has over 2100 yards passing.

As would anyone else in football.