Kyler Murray Debate Thread

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I mean I basically agree with you. I think we'll probably win at least eight games next year with K1 at QB. Enough for him to keep his starting job (at least until the end of the year).

I'm saying if we go 1-5 to start the season (again unlikely) they'll bench Murray and it will be pandemonium on Hardy Drive.
I feel for you man. We all wanted him to be great. It just didn't work out. Not the same but for me it was watching Swann play when his knees were shot. I hated to see him like that because he could have one of the best to ever play the position. It's heartbreaking.
 

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If true and he's hurting the team he shouldn't be out there playing. I for one don't buy the injury thing as this is who Kyler is, and has been for quite some time. Is he banged up ? Probably, but who isn't this time of year. There's a different between injured and hurt. Pretty much everyone playing is hurt but the injured are in the sidelines.


agreed but as others have said, when Kyler is less than 100% it impacts his game more.
I have no idea I just go back to the play against Seattle the first game where he got taken down on a run and Leonard Williams basically fell on him. He got up holding his midsection and when he was on the bench, for basically the rest of the game, they were working on it, flexing his arm etc.

That sort of thing could make it harder to run AND impact his throwing.

I do agree with others I don't think his arm is as strong as it used to be. IT sounds silly but if you remember back to the Covid year when Kyler got Covid the reports were when he came back, and even into camp the next year he had a "dead arm" like a baseball pitcher. I'm not sure he ever got that back as he hasn't been nearly as effective on deep balls since then
 

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Since his college football playoff appearance

You mean him choking, right? I watched that game before the draft and couldn't figure out how he was better than Rosen except for his running ability, didn't seem worth the first draft pick...
 

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As guys are having fun trashing K1, just don't forget who this year set the Arizona Cardinals franchise record for most consecutive pass completions.

"Bad QB" LOL!
No we're not having fun. We wanted the Kyler bandwagon drivers to be right. And you all got serve us the biggest crow buffet ever.

Does this mean you're back to driving the bus?
 

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No we're not having fun. We wanted the Kyler bandwagon drivers to be right. And you all got serve us the biggest crow buffet ever.

Does this mean you're back to driving the bus?

Sigh... I know.

Do you think a professional athlete can get substantially better at handling pressure situations?

Because I can almost guarantee you, about 11 months from now, we're going to be in the exact same situation we were this year coming out of the bye.

Tell us your honest opinion, is there a realistic hope Murray will succeed in a division-winning, or playoff-berth clinching game in 2025?
 

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Can we all agree never to reference QBR in any QB discussions moving forward? Any formula that rates Kyler the 5th best QB this season is irrevocably broken.
Another pathetic odegard spin for his boy Murray.

Chiefs would be better with Murray over Mahomes?
 
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Sigh... I know.

Do you think a professional athlete can get substantially better at handling pressure situations?

Because I can almost guarantee you, about 11 months from now, we're going to be in the exact same situation we were this year coming out of the bye.

Tell us your honest opinion, is there a realistic hope Murray will succeed in a division-winning, or playoff-berth clinching game in 2025?
There is no reason to believe that will happen
 
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