Kyler Murray In Today

[Zeno]

Third visits means the Cardinals are interested in Murray or they are trying to entice a team to move up for the top pick.

I am hoping it is a smoke screen, but I don't see a ton of Murray interest attributed to any other team...maybe the Raiders? But other than that I don't know how much value the #1 pick has this year, there is no Peyton Manning type sure thing sitting there, there isn't even a consensus #1 LT sitting there like Orlando Pace.

I honestly believe Murray is on the Cardinals short list for that #1 pick and not a smokescreen, but I also believe there were enough questions and concerns that weren't alleviated in previous meetings that they felt the need to meet with him again.

 

[Vacard]

I am hoping it is a smoke screen, but I don't see a ton of Murray interest attributed to any other team...maybe the Raiders? But other than that I don't know how much value the #1 pick has this year, there is no Peyton Manning type sure thing sitting there, there isn't even a consensus #1 LT sitting there like Orlando Pace.

I honestly believe Murray is on the Cardinals short list for that #1 pick and not a smokescreen, but I also believe there were enough questions and concerns that weren't alleviated in previous meetings that they felt the need to meet with him again.

Murray isn't garnering much interest because everyone knows the Cards will take him Number one overall. Isn't it odd that there is a clear consensus among pundits and amateurs alike that Murray is the undisputed number one overall pick for the Cards? I dont think Mister DUI and Bidwill has the will to pull a smokescreen that big and if so no one is biting lmao.

 

[BigRedRage]

I guess if third visits mean nothing.

You said "it either mans he is the pick or we are trying to get someone to trade up"

so, it means nothing.

If something means its either yes or no, than the something is nothing. You have the same result before and after.

Prior to this visit you thought we were either taking him or trying to get someone else to. Now he is visiting and you think the same thing.

So, it means nothing.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

No more significant than meeting with Bosa or Q, other than in your fevered fanboy mind.

Bro your wrong, this is ironing out details like baseball in his contract. 3rd meeting this time with his agent.

Kingsbury and Murray with the same agent was all a package deal long before Kliff accept the job. Read between the lines. He is the pick

 

[Mainstreet]

I am hoping it is a smoke screen, but I don't see a ton of Murray interest attributed to any other team...maybe the Raiders? But other than that I don't know how much value the #1 pick has this year, there is no Peyton Manning type sure thing sitting there, there isn't even a consensus #1 LT sitting there like Orlando Pace.

I honestly believe Murray is on the Cardinals short list for that #1 pick and not a smokescreen, but I also believe there were enough questions and concerns that weren't alleviated in previous meetings that they felt the need to meet with him again.

I can understand your concern. It's one of the reasons I toyed with the idea of drafting Murray and keeping Rosen.

However, if the Cardinals can't make up their mind, trading down for more picks might be the best option.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I honestly believe Murray is on the Cardinals short list

In that case, I hope they go with their tall list.

 

[Ronin]

Josh Weinfuss (@joshweinfuss)
4/9/19, 11:31 AM
David Johnson was asked what he’ll think if the Cardinals draft Kyler Murray first overall: “I like Josh (Rosen). I don’t know. It’s a business. We all know that.”

 

[Zeno]

Murray isn't garnering much interest because everyone knows the Cards will take him Number one overall. Isn't it odd that there is a clear consensus among pundits and amateurs alike that Murray is the undisputed number one overall pick for the Cards? I dont think Mister DUI and Bidwill has the will to pull a smokescreen that big and if so no one is biting lmao.

I haven't seen one pundit say Murray is a sure thing...like I said he isn't Manning or even Andrew Luck. We got a crap deal having the #1 pick in a draft where there is no consensus#1, in fact I was just reading a couple of articles today that still contend Bosa is the best player in the draft, it is far from unanimous. If we don't draft Murray there isn't going to be a mad scramble to trade up with the 49ers at #2, he could possibly go #4 to the Raiders but he doesn't fit what he Bronco's, Giants, Dolphins or Redskins want in a QB...what other QB needy team would move up for him? Thats why I think the smokescreen stuff is stupid nobody is going to give up the farm for Kyler Murray and rightly so.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Murray average 383 yards of offense a game ALONE....not counting a running game.
How that doesn't impress ya I'll never know

I haven't seen one pundit say Murray is a sure thing...like I said he isn't Manning or even Andrew Luck. We got a crap deal having the #1 pick in a draft where there is no consensus#1, in fact I was just reading a couple of articles today that still contend Bosa is the best player in the draft, it is far from unanimous. If we don't draft Murray there isn't going to be a mad scramble to trade up with the 49ers at #2, he could possibly go #4 to the Raiders but he doesn't fit what he Bronco's, Giants, Dolphins or Redskins want in a QB...what other QB needy team would move up for him? Thats why I think the smokescreen stuff is stupid nobody is going to give up the farm for Kyler Murray and rightly so.

Murray by EVERY analyst states Murray is the greatest running and passing combo quarterback who's ever lived.
How people shake that off as fluff I don't know.
He's BY FAR the best passing QB in this entire QB class. He's also averaged WAY MORE than Michael Vick and every other 'running' QB in college when running the game. Murray averaged over 7 yards a carry. Vick was barely 5.
He runs better than Vick and he passes better than Rosen...yet you want Rosen...crazy...some may say flat out dumb!

 

[Dante]

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[DevonCardsFan]

Meeting with him again is significant.

This is either part of the smokescreen or the team is zeroing on their choice. Getting him into the building gets Murray out of his comfort zone.

Keim has been out worked and has choreographed every pick, Keim doesn't smokescreen, he didn't suddenly figure it out this year. Your just in denial if you think Murray isn't working out details to a contract

 

[GuernseyCard]

probably u are wrong

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"Pretty rare", according to ? - "Could be", according to ?

I'll stick with my point that top picks don't arrive at a meeting unattended.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

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Hah

 

[Dante]

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Gambo doubling down.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

High drama on 98.7 with all of this. Making the day fly by

 

[Mainstreet]

You said "it either mans he is the pick or we are trying to get someone to trade up"

so, it means nothing.

If something means its either yes or no, than the something is nothing. You have the same result before and after.

Prior to this visit you thought we were either taking him or trying to get someone else to. Now he is visiting and you think the same thing.

So, it means nothing.

Because you can't see the relevance doesn't mean it means nothing. It looks like the Cardinals are taking it down to the wire before making a final decision.

And you want a "yes" or "no" from me? I want to know more just like the Cardinals.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Murray isn't garnering much interest because everyone knows the Cards will take him Number one overall. Isn't it odd that there is a clear consensus among pundits and amateurs alike that Murray is the undisputed number one overall pick for the Cards? I dont think Mister DUI and Bidwill has the will to pull a smokescreen that big and if so no one is biting lmao.

Right. A speculative consensus based on a video clip when neither KK, KM, Keim or Bidwill had any inkling as to the future.

This and two bucks buys a cup of coffee!

(And this "speculative consensus" is now being used by the fanboys to rationalize the shocking lack of interest by any team that ACTUALLY has a need for a QB. Too Funny!)

There is almost always interest in #1 by others if the need and value is there. And that consensus surrounds Bosa and Q..

 

[GuernseyCard]

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Oops!

 

[Shane]

I guess if third visits mean nothing.

When was the second visit?

 

[Zeno]

When was the second visit?

Combine...Private on campus visit...today

 

[BigRedRage]

Because you can't see the relevance doesn't mean it means nothing. It looks like the Cardinals are taking it down to the wire before making a final decision.

And you want a "yes" or "no" from me? I want to know more just like the Cardinals.

I guess I am simply not communicating propery. I am not asking you for a yes or no. You are stating that his visit could mean either or so ultimately, the visit doesnt move the needle because the same conclusion s still met. Thats the third explanation of what I said so if it doesnt work, it doesnt work.

ive never said they know who they are picking, I am simply saying the visit tells us nothing about their intentions, just like prior to the visit. Could be drafting, could be smoke screening. Same as everything else.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Keim has been out worked and has choreographed every pick, Keim doesn't smokescreen, he didn't suddenly figure it out this year. Your just in denial if you think Murray isn't working out details to a contract

And when exactly did Keim have to manage the speculation around a #1 pick?

Given that we learn that his agent is not in attending, I guess it's a perfect time to work out a deal.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

This is just excellent gamesmanship by Keim in my opinion.

By bringing Murray here you while the team is here and while Rosen is here lays it out that we are willing to take Murray and keep Rosen.

So either trade up for Murray because he isn't falling or offer a first for Rosen because we aren't giving him away.

 

[dscher]

Wow this is one hell of a smokescreen hahahahahhahahahhahahahhahaa


Murray haters Cards are taking him, he's here with his agent before the draft LOL

Agree. Not even about the visit at this point..the fact his agent accompanied him and just so happens to be KKs. Another one of those little coincidences I suppose. But we shall see... Only what? Like 2 more weeks of this...

 

[Mainstreet]

When was the second visit?

I thought the Cardinals had Murray in for a first visit, then of course today. I think they watched him at the NFL Combine as well.