LA Chargers @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 10/14/24-10/20/24

[Totally_Red]

This is a "must win" game for the Cardinals.

If the Cardinals win I hope they serenade Harbaugh with some "who's got it better than us." Chants

 

[Ronin]

https://x.com/BoBrack
Bo Brack

@BoBrack
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34m

Darius Robinson (calf) was not practicing despite having a chance. Jonathan Gannon says the Arizona Cardinals are being “smart” working the first round

 

[Ronin]

Theo Mackie

@theo_mackie
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40m

Jonah Williams was working on the side of the field with trainers during the open portion of practice. First time we’ve seen him since he got hurt in Week 1.

 

[Ronin]

@ASchatzNFL


Top CB in coverage DVOA (min 100 routes)
G Williams ARI
M Lattimore NO
R Woolen SEA
S Womack SF
J Johnson CHI
J Watson KC
P Surtain DEN
D Jackson PIT
S Gilmore MIN
J Alexander GB

 

[gmabel830]

Kyle Odegard
@Kyle_Odegard
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1h

Despite the worst pass-rush win-rate in the NFL, the Cardinals are only blitzing 15.1% of the time, per
@pfref.
Rushing four worked well in Philly because Gannon had some dogs on the DL, but you can’t stubbornly stick to your scheme if it doesn’t match the personnel.

The system works!!!

 

[oaken1]

@ASchatzNFL


Top CB in coverage DVOA (min 100 routes)
G Williams ARI
M Lattimore NO
R Woolen SEA
S Womack SF
J Johnson CHI
J Watson KC
P Surtain DEN
D Jackson PIT
S Gilmore MIN
J Alexander GB

@kerouac9 see that??? DVOA...

 

[Redsz]

@ASchatzNFL


Top CB in coverage DVOA (min 100 routes)
G Williams ARI
M Lattimore NO
R Woolen SEA
S Womack SF
J Johnson CHI
J Watson KC
P Surtain DEN
D Jackson PIT
S Gilmore MIN
J Alexander GB

That's very promising. We might have a legit no. 1 CB.

 

[Chopper0080]

That's very promising. We might have a legit no. 1 CB.

Except he has mostly only been a 3rd CB in nickel personnel packages.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Theo Mackie
@theo_mackie
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40m

Jonah Williams was working on the side of the field with trainers during the open portion of practice. First time we’ve seen him since he got hurt in Week 1.

Well that is pretty big news! Would be huge to get him back on the field.

 

[HairZach]

The system works!!!

Man, when the Vikings couldn't get any pressure last year Flores completely changed the system to be the most cover 0 team in the league while also being the most drop 8 team in the league.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Gonna be a long weekend with a Monday Night Game.

You mean it's going to be a good Sunday. We can watch professional football for the entire day. At least I can.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

You mean it's going to be a good Sunday. We can watch professional football for the entire day. At least I can.

Are you trying to say the Cardinals aren't a ........?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Are you trying to say the Cardinals aren't a ........?

Yes, was I too subtle???

 

[Redsz]

The system works!!!

Yeah thats very unsettling. Like dude, your the coordinator of one of the worst defenses in the NFL for two seasons straight. Might be time to look at what can be changed schematically to give your team a chance.

 

[Ronin]

Injury Report: Week 7 vs Chargers

 

[BritCard]

@ASchatzNFL


Top CB in coverage DVOA (min 100 routes)
G Williams ARI
M Lattimore NO
R Woolen SEA
S Womack SF
J Johnson CHI
J Watson KC
P Surtain DEN
D Jackson PIT
S Gilmore MIN
J Alexander GB

Here's the numbers.

At least he's up to 75% snaps now. He actually played most snaps at CB against GB. But he should be playing 100%. I don't like the defenses tendency to rotate so much. Let players get in a rhythm.

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[Crimson Warrior]

Get Garrett Williams a pass rush and he'll get us some more interceptions!

Come on Max Melton! Pay off the Daily Double and give us some hope for the defense!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Here's the numbers.

At least he's up to 75% snaps now. He actually played most snaps at CB against GB. But he should be playing 100%. I don't like the defenses tendency to rotate so much. Let players get in a rhythm.

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Budda and Thompson play 100%, so it's not a given that the CBs will be rotated. When the youngsters learn and get better, their snaps will increase. Rallis isn't afraid to keep players out there, who can handle it. It will be a rotation until a few clearly separate themselves from the rest, long-term.

 

[BritCard]

Budda and Thompson play 100%, so it's not a given that the CBs will be rotated. When the youngsters learn and get better, their snaps will increase. Rallis isn't afraid to keep players out there, who can handle it. It will be a rotation until a few clearly separate themselves from the rest, long-term.

Williams already separated himself from the rest but he only played 74% of snaps last week.

DTD had a good game vs the Niners then didn't play a snap against Green Bay as the defense was gashed.

These two things don't go together. Either you keep your best guys on the field or you're rotating them for rest. Williams has clearly been the best CB but is still missing snaps and Jalen has been poor all year but is still getting 100% despite DTD showing promise. It makes no sense.

 

[Chopper0080]

Williams already separated himself from the rest but he only played 74% of snaps last week.

DTD had a good game vs the Niners then didn't play a snap against Green Bay as the defense was gashed.

These two things don't go together. Either you keep your best guys on the field or your rotating them for rest. WIlliams has clearly been the best CB but is still missing snaps and Jalen has been poor all year but is still getting 100% despite DTD showing promise. It makes no sense.

They use him mostly as a nickel corner. The reason he plays so many snaps is the Cardinals play 5+DBs a lot. His lowest snap% games have been Buffalo and Detroit. Not shocking those team are both bottom 10 in 11 personnel usage.

 

[BritCard]

They use him mostly as a nickel corner. The reason he plays so many snaps is the Cardinals play 5+DBs a lot. His lowest snap% games have been Buffalo and Detroit. Not shocking those team are both bottom 10 in 11 personnel usage.

I understand, but they shouldn't. They should be putting him outside considering he has the size and it's where he played in college, and that SMB and STV have both been sub optimal.

 

[phillycard]

Do yo really think many people are going to tune into the Chargers/Cardinals game when they are going head to head with a Buffalo/Jets game and they start 45 minutes earlier than our game?

Bills/Jets was last Monday. It's Bucs/Ravens opposite us, but your point TOTALLY still stands.

 

[Chopper0080]

I understand, but they shouldn't. They should be putting him outside considering he has the size and it's where he played in college, and that SMB and STV have both been sub optimal.

That would make sense to me but...coaches can be weird about "slot CBs".

 

[Ronin]

Bo Brack

@BoBrack

No Darius Robinson or Owen Pappoe at Arizona Cardinals practice.
@PHNX_Cardinals

 

[football karma]

I understand, but they shouldn't. They should be putting him outside considering he has the size and it's where he played in college, and that SMB and STV have both been sub optimal.

contrarian take:

with the advent of two high split safety alignments -- covering the slot Wr in the middle of the field becomes your most important CB