Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

[SoonerLou]

I hope so. For a good amount of picks.

Then we get to witness the bozos in the front office swing & miss on those picks per usual.

Then we’ll become the first franchise to draft a QB in the first round in a span of 4-5 years.

It’ll be hilarious.

A more mature Kyler for a tenth of the price

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[Stout]

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Seriously. Take a bite of humble pie, kid. This braggadocio look doesn't suit you.

 

[Stout]

All of this checks out with what my OU guys told me a couple weeks ago.

Agent reached out to get a general feeling.
Kyler didnt like what he heard or saw where it was going.
Spent a week at the Pro Bowl with Lamb (other players the Cards passed up)
Agent is in Vegas with Kyler
Social media scrubbed and drama starts.


Didnt post cause they are closer to Lamb's people.

And while people are right the agent is a clown. This is being done because of what happened with Baker Mayfield (Kyler's good friend) and Lamar Jackson.

Lamar has been hosed, but Baker is EXACTLY why KM should be scared about his contract status. #1 picks that don't become who they're supposed to become don't get the big-money extensions. #1 picks that are even moderately successful at least get sniffs at big contracts, but not those who have flaws to overcome. You know, like both KM and BM.

 

[BritCard]

Lamar has been hosed, but Baker is EXACTLY why KM should be scared about his contract status. #1 picks that don't become who they're supposed to become don't get the big-money extensions. #1 picks that are even moderately successful at least get sniffs at big contracts, but not those who have flaws to overcome. You know, like both KM and BM.

Lamar hasn't been hosed. It was Lamar that didn't want a 3rd year extension because the market increases every year and he figured on more money if he waits.

So basically the exact opposite of Kyler.

 

[juza76]

Lamar hasn't been hosed. It was Lamar that didn't want a 3rd year extension because the market increases every year and he figured on more money if he waits.

So basically the exact opposite of Kyler.

Much better approach, no doubts
He is confident in his ability and his next progresses

 

[BritCard]

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Exactly. Any picks they get for Kyler they would use to draft his replacement.

 

[Shane]

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Game set match

 

[Mainstreet]

The situation is complicated because if the Cardinals had replaced the GM, he could have figured out how much is on the coach and how much is on the quarterback.

I have a feeling we will keep revisiting this every season until a change is made at the top.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Lamar hasn't been hosed. It was Lamar that didn't want a 3rd year extension because the market increases every year and he figured on more money if he waits.

So basically the exact opposite of Kyler.

No agent

 

[DVontel]

Much better approach, no doubts
He is confident in his ability and his next progresses

It’s a much better approach, but it shouldn’t have to come to an approach in the first place. I love Lamar, but I hate the that he is risking his future earnings like this. No agent or anything. It only takes 1 injury for Baltimore to significantly lowball him or not even pay him at all. Only Lamar loses in that instance, & big.

 

[SoonerLou]

The situation is complicated because if the Cardinals had replaced the GM, he could have figured out how much is on the coach and how much is on the quarterback.

I have a feeling we will keep revisiting this every season until a change is made at the top.

All the more reason you needed to fire somebody.

A new GM has the cache to say he didnt draft all those non factors or sign a bunch of old fa vets. And has no attachment to Kyler.

Instead they know Keim isnt very good at his job. So they want to capitalize since Keim's track record isnt that great on providing more young talent anyway.

Its still a bad strategy. I would have waited after Keim drafts another LB.

 

[QuebecCard]

This reminds me of fan reactions to Drew Rosenhaus back in the day.

It's theatre, ladies and gentleman, irrelevant to the hard nose back and forth away from the crowd that actually takes place.

The only thing to take from KM's agent breaking cover is that he's pissed with the initial response to an extension and that he's showing off for his client.

The guy in control of this process is the one whose signature is worth tens of millions: Mike Bidwill.

RELAX!

 

[Mainstreet]

All the more reason you needed to fire somebody.

A new GM has the cache to say he didnt draft all those non factors or sign a bunch of old fa vets. And has no attachment to Kyler.

Instead they know Keim isnt very good at his job. So they want to capitalize since Keim's track record isnt that great on providing more young talent anyway.

Its still a bad strategy. I would have waited after Keim drafts another LB.

Figuring out the problem is much harder with three moving parts: Keim, Kingsbury and Murray.

Personally, I think it starts with the GM then one can better assess the situation.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Kyler is being a huge baby, but the other side of the negotiating table somehow remains less sympathetic.

This entire situation has become quite the train wreck, and Keim/KK/Bidwill are certainly not the leadership needed to turn it around.

 

[BritCard]

Kyler is being a huge baby, but the other side of the negotiating table somehow remains less sympathetic.

This entire situation has become quite the train wreck, and Keim/KK/Bidwill are certainly not the leadership needed to turn it around.

I don't see how any of this is on the FO.

I don't think there is a team in the league that would expect or be happy with a written demand for a 3rd year contract extension 2 weeks after the season is over. From any QB. Especially one that has shown to have major issues despite his talent.

 

[Shane]

I don't see how any of this is on the FO.

I don't think there is a team in the league that would expect or be happy with a written demand for a 3rd year contract extension 2 weeks after the season is over. From any QB. Especially one that has shown to have major issues despite his talent.

Yup

 

[TJ]

Lamar hasn't been hosed. It was Lamar that didn't want a 3rd year extension because the market increases every year and he figured on more money if he waits.

So basically the exact opposite of Kyler.

Kyler should take this approach. Prove his worth and sign an even larger contract after proving that he's earned it without a shadow of a doubt.

Our leadership is ass, but Kyler has done himself no favors at the negotiation table for sleepwalking the second half of seasons. Make it impossible for Keim/Bidwill to say no.

 

[TJ]

Someone smarter than me needs to put Kyler's head on Veruca Salt's shoulders

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[Syracusecards]

Couple of weeks before free agency make me think he wish to get traded

interesting take. Could be right.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I don't see how any of this is on the FO.

I don't think there is a team in the league that would expect or be happy with a written demand for a 3rd year contract extension 2 weeks after the season is over. From any QB. Especially one that has shown to have major issues despite his talent.

Again, I agree that Kyler is a baby, and full of question marks these days. That said, the organization clearly hasn't handled this situation well, and we have about 10 years of Keim alienating current and former players alike, so I have no sympathy for the FO or their negotiating tactics.

 

[az jam]

Again, I agree that Kyler is a baby, and full of question marks these days. That said, the organization clearly hasn't handled this situation well, and we have about 10 years of Keim alienating current and former players alike, so I have no sympathy for the FO or their negotiating tactics.

Agree that Keim has a horrible track on dealing with player contracts. The Cards have a very bad reputation.

 

[splitsecond]

How on earth are Kyler and Kliff stupid enough to have the same agent? It's a massive conflict of interest to represent 2/3 of the people on the hot seat right now. The fact that they both don't see this is the biggest question mark about both of Kliff and Kyler's mental acuity to me...

 

[Russ Smith]

The good part of that statement is that the agent says the contract proposal includes a lower cap figure to help us sign other players. That's a starting point would have to see the rest.

I do agree with Feely that Kyler needs to be working hard to get better but I do think the agent is running this show and it seems counter productive.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Again, I agree that Kyler is a baby, and full of question marks these days. That said, the organization clearly hasn't handled this situation well, and we have about 10 years of Keim alienating current and former players alike, so I have no sympathy for the FO or their negotiating tactics.

I sided with Keim when Mathieu took swipes. I sided with Keim when Peterson took swipes.

But now with Kyler? I can't take Keim's side here. These issues bubble to the surface way too often for this to only be a player side issue.

Kyler has acted like a douche about this, but why has he felt the need to act this way? And the leadership of the organization hasn't made really any statements aside from Mike B making a statement last week. They should have addressed how the season ended, but they didn't.

 

[Russ Smith]

I sided with Keim when Mathieu took swipes. I sided with Keim when Peterson took swipes.

But now with Kyler? I can't take Keim's side here. These issues bubble to the surface way too often for this to only be a player side issue.

Kyler has acted like a douche about this, but why has he felt the need to act this way? And the leadership of the organization hasn't made really any statements aside from Mike B making a statement last week. They should have addressed how the season ended, but they didn't.

My take is that Kyler is probably very aware of the history of this franchise and is probably being advised we want to get a commitment from them they're going to try and put good players around you and build a foundation. That is getting Watt and Green and Hudson was great but you gotta do your job in the draft to get YOUNG talent so you don't have to keep bringing in veterans to cover holes due to bad drafting. I think that's a good thing. Saying we'll take less money(cap hit probably not actually less money) to help you sign guys is great, I think that's in part about Christian Kirk.

But it's gotta be handled better, the agent appears to be making things worse and Kyler should have handled his end of it better too.

At least we know that they're smart enough to get that if he really wants a commitment part of that is HIM committing by being willing to help the team sign FA"s and retain their own players