Levi v. Potter for LT -- Winston v. Massie for RT

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The tackle competition is set, according to Arians and there doesn't seem to be any competition for Sendlein. It's likely that Cooper will slot into left-guard, so the only real question mark is whether someone can beat out Colledge at right guard.

That someone at RG might be one of the 4 tackles. Yesterday, because Colledge was a no show due to personal reasons, they had Paul Fanaika starting at RG with Chilo Rachal starting at LG in place of Cooper. As for Sendlein being challenged---it will be interesting to see whether the coaches slide a player to center for competition and depth considerations.
 

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That someone at RG might be one of the 4 tackles. Yesterday, because Colledge was a no show due to personal reasons, they had Paul Fanaika starting at RG with Chilo Rachal starting at LG in place of Cooper. As for Sendlein being challenged---it will be interesting to see whether the coaches slide a player to center for competition and depth considerations.

Wondered in a separate thread if Kelemete could be trained as a backup centre. May be his best chance to stick.
 

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As for Sendlein being challenged---it will be interesting to see whether the coaches slide a player to center for competition and depth considerations.
We need depth at C so Sendlein is challenged for the starting job. A legitimate C and not training someone out of position. I honestly believe that even if we fix the T and G positions that it will only go so far with Sendlein being at C.
 

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We need depth at C so Sendlein is challenged for the starting job. A legitimate C and not training someone out of position. I honestly believe that even if we fix the T and G positions that it will only go so far with Sendlein being at C.

Evidently the coaching staff doesn't agree.
 

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These should be easy battles, but will Levi be so rusty that he gets beat out. I don't see Winston getting beat out by Massie unless he comes in out of shape or gets hurt. I like Massie as much as the next guy, but Winston (IS) what we all want Massie to become. Which is a solid pro that is good at all aspects of his game and is above average across the board. I just wonder if Massie may become a starting guard or if he may be tried at LT.
 

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These should be easy battles, but will Levi be so rusty that he gets beat out. I don't see Winston getting beat out by Massie unless he comes in out of shape or gets hurt. I like Massie as much as the next guy, but Winston (IS) what we all want Massie to become. Which is a solid pro that is good at all aspects of his game and is above average across the board. I just wonder if Massie may become a starting guard or if he may be tried at LT.

So like Massie was in the last 8 games of last season? in his ROOKIE year?
 

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Im liking Potter at LT, Winston at RT, and Levi at RG.

Groom Massie to be RTOTF behind Winston. We cant risk him having a bad stretch like the first half of last year. Palmer cant take it.


Levi at RG and Cooper or Watson at LG would be solid.
 

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Im liking Potter at LT, Winston at RT, and Levi at RG.

Groom Massie to be RTOTF behind Winston. We cant risk him having a bad stretch like the first half of last year. Palmer cant take it.


Levi at RG and Cooper or Watson at LG would be solid.

Watson???
 

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LT - Potter
LG - Coop
C - Sendlein
RG - Levi
RT - Winston

Athletic left side that can protect Palmers blind side and quick enough to pull to the right for a well executed strong side run.

By the second half of the season i think its an above average offensive line collectively with that lineup. It has potential to be a top 5 ground game on the strong side too with Cooper pulling.

Decent depth behind that line too..
 

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^^ Thatd be great If Massie could convert to Center, then wed have our 5 best guys on the field.

Watson???


Earl Watson. Took him out of James Madison. 5th round pick I think. Sure why not?

If I were to list the top Gs in the NFL, more than half would be in the 3rd round+

Several of them UDFAs
 

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^^ Thatd be great If Massie could convert to Center, then wed have our 5 best guys on the field.




Earl Watson. Took him out of James Madison. 5th round pick I think. Sure why not?

If I were to list the top Gs in the NFL, more than half would be in the 3rd round+

Several of them UDFAs

Not a chance that Earl Watson will make team, but maybe Earl WATFORD
 

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So like Massie was in the last 8 games of last season? in his ROOKIE year?

Massie is athletic and quick into his drop and I think he is going to be a solid T but the improved pass protection #'s from last year were from 3 step drops and 5 yard passes not from any great improvement in the offensive line.
 

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Massie is athletic and quick into his drop and I think he is going to be a solid T but the improved pass protection #'s from last year were from 3 step drops and 5 yard passes not from any great improvement in the offensive line.

Yea because our young awful QB's were so good at getting rid of the ball quickly.. NOT!

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Yea because our young awful QB's were so good at getting rid of the ball quickly.. NOT!

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Watch the film. Look at the stats. Yards per completion dropped 25% the last half of the season. You must have been napping during the games if you didn't see our young goofballs at QB getting the ball out quickly. They just didn't get it anywhere near where our WRs could catch it.

But then you are the guy who claimed that an NFL quality WR couldn't get open or downfield more than a couple of yards in 2 seconds when 12 year old girls can run 20 yards in 3.5 seconds. :p
 

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The O-line is going to be the most interesting thing to follow this TC.

Potter was a rookie 7th rounder thrown into action prematurely last season and was despite praises on this board not very good. But! It's hard to expect more from a raw 7th rounder. He'll be very interesting to follow, because he no doubt showed potential to develop into a player. But how high is the ceiling for Potter? Honestly, I haven't seen anything at this point to believe he can be a quality starter. That could change with experience and change of scheme.

Brown is not as bad as everyone here think. Brown had the misfortune of playing in KW's scheme that was the most OT unfriendly scheme I have ever seen in the NFL. Tackles were totally isolated on islands with no help. If the QB couldn't get the ball out quickly the tackles were more or less without a chance and were exposed. The D could tee off resulting in the many false starts from the OTs to compensate. Brown's reputation has suffered because of that and is much better than advertised. The pivotal thing will however be how he returns from his injury.

My money is still on Brown for the starting LT, but time will tell. I Potter could have the potential to be a starting LT, but only time will tell.

RT also interesting, but in another way. Less unknown factors with both MAssie and Winston. Massie did show the potential in the 2nd half of the season to be a NFL starter, but has he developed enough to push an established NFL starter as Winston?

I expect the interior line is more or less settled with Cooper, Sendlein and Colledge. Watson could push Colledge as the season evolve, but I doubt he will be starting week 1.

So very interesting scenarios. I only hope/pray that BASK have learned the lesson from RG/KW regime and NOT cut expensive veterans the same day they lose their starting job. If Brown and Colledge are benched, I hope that we keep them for the season as back-ups and then cut them. Paper thin depth at OL has doomed this team for too many seasons.
 

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The O-line is going to be the most interesting thing to follow this TC.

Potter was a rookie 7th rounder thrown into action prematurely last season and was despite praises on this board not very good. But! It's hard to expect more from a raw 7th rounder. He'll be very interesting to follow, because he no doubt showed potential to develop into a player. But how high is the ceiling for Potter? Honestly, I haven't seen anything at this point to believe he can be a quality starter. That could change with experience and change of scheme.

Brown is not as bad as everyone here think. Brown had the misfortune of playing in KW's scheme that was the most OT unfriendly scheme I have ever seen in the NFL. Tackles were totally isolated on islands with no help. If the QB couldn't get the ball out quickly the tackles were more or less without a chance and were exposed. The D could tee off resulting in the many false starts from the OTs to compensate. Brown's reputation has suffered because of that and is much better than advertised. The pivotal thing will however be how he returns from his injury.

My money is still on Brown for the starting LT, but time will tell. I Potter could have the potential to be a starting LT, but only time will tell.

RT also interesting, but in another way. Less unknown factors with both MAssie and Winston. Massie did show the potential in the 2nd half of the season to be a NFL starter, but has he developed enough to push an established NFL starter as Winston?

I expect the interior line is more or less settled with Cooper, Sendlein and Colledge. Watson could push Colledge as the season evolve, but I doubt he will be starting week 1.

So very interesting scenarios. I only hope/pray that BASK have learned the lesson from RG/KW regime and NOT cut expensive veterans the same day they lose their starting job. If Brown and Colledge are benched, I hope that we keep them for the season as back-ups and then cut them. Paper thin depth at OL has doomed this team for too many seasons.

Agree with everything except for the interior line being set. Id like to see Levi replace Colledge in the interior. Guards are important for a good run game and Colledge is below average in that category.
 

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Agree with everything except for the interior line being set. Id like to see Levi replace Colledge in the interior. Guards are important for a good run game and Colledge is below average in that category.

Well.. If Potter beats out Brown for starting LT I definately can see Brown moving inside.
 

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Agree with everything except for the interior line being set. Id like to see Levi replace Colledge in the interior. Guards are important for a good run game and Colledge is below average in that category.

Why in the heck does everyone keep saying this. He isn't a guard and BA has specifically said he won't be moved there. It's a fantasy, people, and it isn't happening.
 

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OK I'm never going to write anything positive about any player ever again. I have been writing about how quick and athletic Massie looked and that he would be our RT for the next ten years and so what happens? The Cards sign Eric Winston and Massie is dropped to 2nd team. The Duckjake jinx is alive and well. :bang:
 

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OK I'm never going to write anything positive about any player ever again. I have been writing about how quick and athletic Massie looked and that he would be our RT for the next ten years and so what happens? The Cards sign Eric Winston and Massie is dropped to 2nd team. The Duckjake jinx is alive and well. :bang:

Boo!
 
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