Lost: Season 3 (Spoilers)

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Well, seems like you've got a lot more faith that the Others were speaking the truth than I do. :D

seriously - i believe ben when he said "we're the good guys". my wife and my friends give me constant grief over it all the time - but i really think that the others are the good guys and that we just do not have enough information yet to too see how the things they show us in isolation actually play out in the larger context.

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seriously - i believe ben when he said "we're the good guys". my wife and my friends give me constant grief over it all the time - but i really think that the others are the good guys and that we just do not have enough information yet to too see how the things they show us in isolation actually play out in the larger context.

shawn

In that case, if the Others think of themselves as "the good guys", wouldn't that say that they think the Losties are "the bad guys"? And if so, why let a bad guy go? ESPECIALLY if, as we all know, Walt is special. No, I don't think they would let them leave the island. Those specific coordinates you talk about might lead them right into a trap.
 

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In that case, if the Others think of themselves as "the good guys", wouldn't that say that they think the Losties are "the bad guys"? And if so, why let a bad guy go? ESPECIALLY if, as we all know, Walt is special. No, I don't think they would let them leave the island. Those specific coordinates you talk about might lead them right into a trap.

possible - but since anything at this point is speculation on all our parts then i am going to stay with my view until more information is brought to light which proves it wrong. we do not know what the motivation was for letting them go and they must not think that all the Losties are bad because they did make lists and take some of them. we still do not know for certain why they were taken or what happened to them after they were taken. from that perspective, there are a lot of unanswered questions and there is the possibility that the reasons were noble and for a good cause - however, the opposite could be true as well - but those answers are still hidden.

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possible - but since anything at this point is speculation on all our parts then i am going to stay with my view until more information is brought to light which proves it wrong. we do not know what the motivation was for letting them go and they must not think that all the Losties are bad because they did make lists and take some of them. we still do not know for certain why they were taken or what happened to them after they were taken. from that perspective, there are a lot of unanswered questions and there is the possibility that the reasons were noble and for a good cause - however, the opposite could be true as well - but those answers are still hidden.

shawn

Translation" We raelly won't know it all till it's over

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The best villains don't think they're evil. They believe they're righteous in their "endeavors."

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Also, the episode where Charlie is supposed to take an arrow to the throat was written by a comic book writer. Brian K. Vaughn (Y: The Last Man, Doc Strange, Ex Machina).

That's the only episode where I've spotted his name, but he may have written others...but none since then.

It's also the episode where they had a stereotypical fanboy conversation about who's faster: The Flash or Superman.
 

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Isn't that assuming they left the island in the first place? Why didn't Naomi know about Michael and Walt unless they were lost at sea or just stayed silent about the island. She said they had been searching for awhile, and Penny probably sent her people out searching as Michael and Walt were leaving the island.

My theory is that they never really left the island, leaving a whole bunch of cool flashbacks for Season 4. :D

If you remember, Ben told Michael he was not to tell anyone about the island. He said if Michael did tell anyone he would make sure everyone knew what Michael had done to get off the island.

I think Ben is extremely tricky, but he does seem to be honest when he makes a deal. In the case of Michael it was actually his people who've made the deal. However he stood by it.

Of course there is another possibility here. Desmond turned the key and destroyed the hatch either just before or just after Michael and Walt left the dock. It could be that this screwed up their compass and their means of leaving the island just like it's screwed up the beacon and the others used for returning, communications, etc.

seriously - i believe ben when he said "we're the good guys". my wife and my friends give me constant grief over it all the time - but i really think that the others are the good guys and that we just do not have enough information yet to too see how the things they show us in isolation actually play out in the larger context.

shawn

I'm not sure if the others actually are the good guys, but I think they believe they are the good guys. They definitely believe the end justifies the means.

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I have been waiting for this episode forever....glad to see it finally happen.
 

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This is GREAT news:

ABC details final three "Lost" seasons

By Nellie Andreeva Mon May 7, 3:16 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - ABC has set an end date for "Lost."
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The Emmy-winning adventure series will run for 48 more episodes over three seasons. Each season will consist of 16 episodes, which will air uninterrupted.

"Lost" executive producers/showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, who have been vocal about setting up an endgame for the show, have signed on to stay for the remainder of the series' run. Their separate new eight-figure deals with "Lost" producer ABC TV Studio include their services on the show as well as multiyear development pacts set to kick in when "Lost" bows out during the 2009-10 season.

"Due to the unique nature of 'Lost,' we knew it would require an end date to keep the integrity and strength of the show consistent throughout and to give the audience the payoff they deserve," ABC Entertainment president Stephen McPherson said.

Lindelof said having the end point in sight was "incredibly liberating. Like we've been running a marathon and we actually know where the finish line is for the first time."

Lindelof and Cuse said they've had "a road map for the series with all the major mythological milestones and the ending in place" for a while.

"What we didn't know was how long we had to play the story out," Cuse said. "By defining the endpoint we can now really map out the rest of the series in confidence."
There will be some puzzle play, too.

"We sort of view "Lost" as a mosaic," Cuse said. "Now there are only 48 more tiles that go into that mosaic, and we're figuring out, along with all the other writers, exactly where they all go."

In January, Lindelof and Cuse said that they envisioned the endpoint for "Lost" around episode 100. The agreement with ABC will bring the total number of episodes to 120.
Lindelof wrote the pilot for "Lost" with fellow executive producer J.J. Abrams, and Cuse joined the series in October 2004 shortly after the show debuted to big numbers.

In addition to its instant commercial success and large following, "Lost" has enjoyed strong critical acclaim, capped by a best drama series Emmy in 2005 and best drama series Golden Globe in 2006.

While the show's ratings have softened this season -- it is averaging 15.1 million viewers to date -- it is the most recorded show on TV, gaining 18% more viewers through DVR viewing. It is also a popular draw for streaming replays on ABC.com, iTunes downloads and DVDs.
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
 

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Awesome news!!!

The only thing I wished is that they would have ended on episode 108 - but 120 isn't bad. :D

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When we see Walt again, he'll have visibly aged--He's a kid in puberty, but even in season 4 they're still likely only on the island for a few months despite that we haven't seen Walt for 3 years.
True, but what if the producers of the show had the foresight to film the scenes with Walt returing long ago???
 

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True, but what if the producers of the show had the foresight to film the scenes with Walt returing long ago???

Unless
A) They don't show Walt again and only refer to him
or
B) They use his 'aging' as an angle for the mystery of the island
or
C) I have no idea what I'm talking about and should just shut-up

Right now, I'm picking C....:D
 

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Ah-ha!!

From the article link that Fisch posted above:

answers some important questions about the relationship between the Dharma Initiative and the Others.
I think that little tidbit supports my theory--indicating that they aren't one and the same.
 
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