Lost: Season 3 (Spoilers)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon


try this link out. it really makes you think

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[chickenhead]

I don't know that they could have planned the flash forwards from day 1, since originally Jack was supposed to die in the first episode, and was saved by the test audiences. At least that's what the commentary on the season 1 DVD says. I suppose they could have planned the flash forwards with Kate and another character in mind, though.

I really like the show, and one of my favorite things is that most of the secrets become not just explained, but often more mundane than we would have expected (ie the polar bears). There are a few things like the black smoke that need explanation; we'll see how they handle it. I hope the show doesn't get to a point where the audience is relying on pure suspension of disbelief to accept it, though.

 

[D-Dogg]

shane, i really don't.

honestly, i think all of us should. It would be interesting to rewatch.

It is on my to-do list one of these days. Probably when it all plays out to watch from start to end again.

 

[D-Dogg]

I really like the show, and one of my favorite things is that most of the secrets become not just explained, but often more mundane than we would have expected (ie the polar bears). There are a few things like the black smoke that need explanation; we'll see how they handle it. I hope the show doesn't get to a point where the audience is relying on pure suspension of disbelief to accept it, though.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html

Lindelof said that a DVD set of the first season will come out this summer, before a second season begins in the fall. As the show progresses, he added, it won't venture too far into science fiction as its mysteries unfold. "We're still trying to be ... firmly ensconced in the world of science fact," he said in an interview. "I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet ... that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and ... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel."

 

[Russ Smith]

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html

I would dispute that we've seen paralyzed people walk, sterile couples get pregnant, people that should be dead get up, more than once.

And the smoke monster certainly defies normal explanation.

Note I'm not complaining I just disagree with Lindelof on that point.

 

[Russ Smith]

another question that dates back. When is Claire's baby going to come into play? They made such a big deal about the baby, is it evil, does it have special powers, you must raise this baby don't let it be raised by others.

At what point is this going to come into play right now it seems to be a completely dead angle on the show?

At one point last night they showed a closeup of Claire and the baby and I thought ok the baby is going to do something to save them, but nothing hapened.

 

[Dback Jon]

Question - prior to the island, Kate was a wanted women. Now, after, it seems she is free - how did that happen?

 

[Chaplin]

another question that dates back. When is Claire's baby going to come into play? They made such a big deal about the baby, is it evil, does it have special powers, you must raise this baby don't let it be raised by others.

At what point is this going to come into play right now it seems to be a completely dead angle on the show?

At one point last night they showed a closeup of Claire and the baby and I thought ok the baby is going to do something to save them, but nothing hapened.

The local LA station had an interview with the producers and they said that the baby WILL become a big deal next season.

I did notice when Charlie died, the baby seemed to have a reaction to it, as if he knew it.

 

[kps0001]

Another REALLY out there theory.

Is Jacob future Jack SOMEHOW?! Locke is there to help Jack from making a HUGE MISTAKE (Jacob: "help me!"/ Locke: (to Jack re: the phone: "you'e not supposed to do this") and Locke WON'T kill Jack even though he would kill ANYONE else who was in that position, why? Because killing present Jack would kill future Jacob?!

also, we have a reason why Ben might be keeping Jacob locked up - as punishment for past/present Jack - whatever the hell that means!)

THIS SHOW IS MIND-BOGGLING.

oh - and me thinks the people coming are Dharma peeps on the war path.

not that is a theory i can work with! nice work - very interesting if that turns out to be the case.

shawn

I was also thinking Jacob is Jack. When Jack was on the bridge about to jump it sounded like he whispered "help me". The same "help me" that Locke heard when Ben took him to Jacob. Anyone else notice that? I didn't rewind to find out if that was exactly what Jack said but I thougt so.



I also think the person that dies (the viewing) is Ben.

Also, wouldn't Kate be in jail if once they got rescued? Which makes me think; how far in the future where those flash fowards? Can past events have been changed by things that happened on the island? The whole time travel thing.

 

[Covert Rain]

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html

I think things have changed a bit since then. For instance the part of that that states "There isn't any time travel." Well that has changed if you read the most recent article on e-online. It states

"And we felt that it would be cool if it involved time travel in some way. But instead of doing sort of a traditional time travel and creating paradoxes and all that stuff, we just did [the episode] "Flashes Before Your Eyes." When that experience ended, we wanted him to be able to see the future"

So it appears that though the "experience" is still vague and probably not traditional time travel, it appears it was not a dream as many suspected.

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=9c9aafc1-e118-4d0c-9686-6b982fbd4e87

 

[D-Dogg]

I was also thinking Jacob is Jack. When Jack was on the bridge about to jump it sounded like he whispered "help me". The same "help me" that Locke heard when Ben took him to Jacob. Anyone else notice that? I didn't rewind to find out if that was exactly what Jack said but I thougt so.



I also think the person that dies (the viewing) is Ben.

Also, wouldn't Kate be in jail if once they got rescued? Which makes me think; how far in the future where those flash fowards? Can past events have been changed by things that happened on the island? The whole time travel thing.

Lots of possibilities there:

She was either absolved of the crimes. Got off because of a sympathetic jury. Dharma fixed her up good. She's posing as someone else that died on the island.

Personally, I'm going with she goes to trial and easily gets off. For starters, what she did was sympathetic to begin with but add in she would have high profile because of the survivor aspect and I don't see a jury in the world that would lock her up. I'm pretty sure she gets off and probably has a nice book deal...she drove up in a really nice car, IIRC.

 

[D-Dogg]

I think things have changed a bit since then. For instance the part of that that states "There isn't any time travel." Well that has changed if you read the most recent article on e-online.

I'd argue that isn't time travel, and more premonition. That is something that is "possible" and somewhat grounded in scientific reality.

Now, Patch getting up after getting killed all the time doesn't fit. I bet even smokey fits somehow, stretching it, but I can't see Patch having an explanation there. Or Richard (?) being an ageless one. Jacob is definitely in the paranormal range of stuff, and they seem to ok that.

 

[Russ Smith]

The local LA station had an interview with the producers and they said that the baby WILL become a big deal next season.

I did notice when Charlie died, the baby seemed to have a reaction to it, as if he knew it.

Right that's what made me think the baby would do something later,
his reaction when Charlie died he clearly knew.

 

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It was killing me that I couldnt place the chick in the station;

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0585429/

She was Steve Sanders gf, Brenda's acting competition for the play and SomeGuy's rape victim for a few eps of 90210.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

It was killing me that I couldnt place the chick in the station;

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0585429/

She was Steve Sanders gf, Brenda's acting competition for the play and SomeGuy's rape victim for a few eps of 90210.

I've seen her around a lot...even a commercial here and there...and for some reason, I think she's like way hot

 

[abomb]

I've seen her around a lot...even a commercial here and there...and for some reason, I think she's like way hot

I thought she was super hot on 90210 back in the day. She is a little Naomi Watts-ish.

 

[Chaplin]

It was killing me that I couldnt place the chick in the station;

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0585429/

She was Steve Sanders gf, Brenda's acting competition for the play and SomeGuy's rape victim for a few eps of 90210.

If anyone watched Season 2 of 24, she played the mother of the little girl that Kim was the nanny for--she was the one that was beaten by her husband.

 

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If anyone watched Season 2 of 24, she played the mother of the little girl that Kim was the nanny for--she was the one that was beaten by her husband.

Ah ha! I saw she had 24 on the resume, but couldnt place her.

 

[Joe Mama's Sista]

It was killing me that I couldnt place the chick in the station;

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0585429/

She was Steve Sanders gf, Brenda's acting competition for the play and SomeGuy's rape victim for a few eps of 90210.

As soon as I saw her, I said, "I'm embarassed to say what tv show I recognize her from!" ha ha

Oh, back in the day, when 90210 was SO cool

 

[abomb]

Oh, back in the day, when 90210 was SO cool

Back in the day? I still love that show now.

 

[Griffin]

If anyone watched Season 2 of 24, she played the mother of the little girl that Kim was the nanny for--she was the one that was beaten by her husband.

The other girl in the station was also from 24.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Great show.

Now they are Flash Forwarding which is kind of cool. Or are they Flash Forwarding back to the past. This would explain why Jacks dad could still be alive. Almost like they got a second chance and never got on the plane.

My guess is Sawyer is the one in the coffin. That is why Jack asked Kate if she went to see the viewing. They obviously grow apart after returning to the real world.

 

[Covert Rain]

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html

I'd argue that isn't time travel, and more premonition. That is something that is "possible" and somewhat grounded in scientific reality.

Now, Patch getting up after getting killed all the time doesn't fit. I bet even smokey fits somehow, stretching it, but I can't see Patch having an explanation there. Or Richard (?) being an ageless one. Jacob is definitely in the paranormal range of stuff, and they seem to ok that.

i see it as the opposite. I think time travel is more grounded in reality then premonition. Evidently the writers did as well after reading the e-online article.

 

[D-Dogg]

i see it as the opposite. I think time travel is more grounded in reality then premonition. Evidently the writers did as well after reading the e-online article.

Except that time travel is a theory at the moment, while premonition and precognition are reported occurences.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/scienc...vinced_that_man_can_see_the_future/index.html

 

[D-Dogg]

All I'm saying is if they wanted to, they could fit Desmond into their little box of "not impossible."