Lost - The Final Season (Spoilers)

[CaptTurbo]

2) Who or what is Christian Shepherd?.

I thought he 'evil god' just used his corpse as a way to speak with the survivors.

 

[Gaddabout]

I thought he 'evil god' just used his corpse as a way to speak with the survivors.

It's unclear but that's one solid theory.

 

[Beaver]

Well Mac didn't last long

 

[Chaplin]

Did nobody watch? A lot of answers tonight, and still more questions.

But a great episode nonetheless.

 

[PDXChris]

Did nobody watch? A lot of answers tonight, and still more questions.

But a great episode nonetheless.

I agree. I am really liking the alternate reality. It was cool to see Ben and Locke together again...

 

[Gaddabout]

I really liked the episode and they at least started to answer the big questions.

 

[TBaslim]

Was not crazy about the Kate episode last week, loved this one.

How about Locke and Ben as high school teachers?! That was perfect beyond words. Alt-Locke is now a man of science (biology) and a man of faith (a teacher, coach). And Ben, as the European History teacher? I almost fell over laughing - I still remember my EU History teacher, and he could have been Ben in another universe.

This show is so great. They have, what, 14 more episodes? And they can do just about whatever they want at this point. How many shows can say that after 5 years and still be on the air?

 

[Shane]

Great episode. Still don't know what all the "big Questions" that were answered that you guys are referring too.

 

[Gaddabout]

Great episode. Still don't know what all the "big Questions" that were answered that you guys are referring too.

Spoiler

- They weren't on the island by accident. Jacob brought them there (at least if we're to believe MIB). The numbers that Hugo kept repeating -- the ones the radio signal called out and the ones that were on the hatch -- were corresponding to the numbers Jacob put next to the names of the respective "candidates."

- MIB/Smoke Monster isn't a function of the island. He's trapped there and apparently governed by some higher law, possibly divine, or maybe just otherworldly.

- MIB's job is to test and tempt, very much like Satan's job in the book of Job, to prove how unworthy man was of God's favor and blessing. Jacob set out to prove otherwise. MIB feels he's won and now has an escape plan via Sawyer.

- Jacob apparently was enrolling people to be "guardians" of the island. It appears to have been the Others role, and they were at some point deemed worthy, even though they all appear to be paranoid idiots now.

 

[DWKB]

Spoiler

- They weren't on the island by accident. Jacob brought them there (at least if we're to believe MIB). The numbers that Hugo kept repeating -- the ones the radio signal called out and the ones that were on the hatch -- were corresponding to the numbers Jacob put next to the names of the respective "candidates."

Spoiler

What makes you think Jacob put those numbers next to the names, or that Jacob even put those names up there, or that it was Jacob's cave at all?

 

[Gaddabout]

Spoiler

What makes you think Jacob put those numbers next to the names, or that Jacob even put those names up there, or that it was Jacob's cave at all?

Spoiler

Because the devil never tells an outright lie. He twists the truth to create an illusion.

I don't know, but since it was the first real explanation of it, I thought it was worthwhile to rest on it until they give us something else.

 

[JerkFace]

Spoiler

What makes you think Jacob put those numbers next to the names, or that Jacob even put those names up there, or that it was Jacob's cave at all?

When Sawyer asked what was with the numbers the MIB said "Jacob has a thing for numbers".

 

[Chaplin]

When Sawyer asked what was with the numbers the MIB said "Jacob has a thing for numbers".

I tend to think that just about everything that MIB says is a lie.

 

[TBaslim]

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Why are we putting everything in spoiler tags when this thread has a spoiler warning?

 

[Gaddabout]

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Why are we putting everything in spoiler tags when this thread has a spoiler warning?

Spoiler

Because it's Lost. Everything is encrypted, even the message board discussion.

 

[Louis]

Why are we supposed to care about the alt-universe where everybody is not the island and is carrying on with their lives?

If the point is to show that there are alternate universes why even care about the story at all?

 

[Gaddabout]

Why are we supposed to care about the alt-universe where everybody is not the island and is carrying on with their lives?

If the point is to show that there are alternate universes why even care about the story at all?

I think they're going to bring it back around in some kind of boomerang event that shows they were going to wind up on the island the whole time. Either that, or their lives were bound for death and misery if they hadn't crashed. Remember, the big question for the survivors was why were they spending so much effort trying to get off an island paradise to return to lives that weren't really worth returning to.

 

[Louis]

Paradise? They were being hunted by people. They crashed on a plane where the majority of them died. Black smoke killed people. They were shooting each other.

It's been nothing but death and misery on this island.

 

[Gaddabout]

Paradise? They were being hunted by people. They crashed on a plane where the majority of them died. Black smoke killed people. They were shooting each other.

It's been nothing but death and misery on this island.

It didn't necessarily have to be that way, but I understand your point. I fear it's going to end up being the biggest plot hole in the story.

 

[TBaslim]

I think the alt-universe/flash sideways world is actually where they all wind up, due to how things on the island end up finally playing out. It's the reset idea, but not due to detonating jughead. It will be due to the final battle that is building. Basically, by showing us the flash sideways world, they are already showing the ending, just in pieces. Just a theory - they have plenty of time to change it all around a few more cycles.

I initially thought in the premiere that they hadn't learned anything in the alt-sideways world (mostly due to Charlie on the plane and stuff), but that's not true so far. Alt-Locke is a far wiser man, Jack less bitter, etc. We'll see...

 

[Gaddabout]

I think the alt-universe/flash sideways world is actually where they all wind up, due to how things on the island end up finally playing out. It's the reset idea, but not due to detonating jughead. It will be due to the final battle that is building. Basically, by showing us the flash sideways world, they are already showing the ending, just in pieces. Just a theory - they have plenty of time to change it all around a few more cycles.

I initially thought in the premiere that they hadn't learned anything in the alt-sideways world (mostly due to Charlie on the plane and stuff), but that's not true so far. Alt-Locke is a far wiser man, Jack less bitter, etc. We'll see...

Right. Maybe I read too much into it, but I thought that was obvious on the plane. Especially Hugo. His life is perfectly charmed.

 

[Evil Ash]

Why are we supposed to care about the alt-universe where everybody is not the island and is carrying on with their lives?

If the point is to show that there are alternate universes why even care about the story at all?

They are slowly and surely showing you the ending throughout the season. The survivors stopped whatever gave the island its power and evidently caused it to sink.

So what you are seeing is one timeline showing how it was stopped and the other that shows the result.

 

[Evil Ash]

I tend to think that just about everything that MIB says is a lie.

For the most part true but in this instance it might simply be that MIB doesn't know the significance of the numbers.

 

[thirty-two]

So was that young kid a young Jacob? Or maybe Aaron (but if it was 2007 he should only be 3...)

 

[devilalum]

Best Lost line

"Do you know how to use a gun?"