Matt Barkley

[AzStevenCal]

Barks currently 22/29 183 yards with 5 TDs and 1 pick.


Hes gonna set the TD record this season. Woods and Lee might be the beastliest WR combo ive ever seen.



Hes running away with the #1 pick, these other QBs are floundering - Tyler Wilson is currently 4/10 with 1 TD, 1 pick.

Not hardly. First off, there is no law that says a QB has to go number one. Secondly, he's just not that impressive especially when you consider all the talent he's surrounded by. And, I noticed you didn't say much about his interception. What the heck was that? For a guy who is supposed to be accurate, that was anything but. He's a first round pick but there is just too much talent coming out for him to run away with the #1 pick.

Steve

 

[52brandon]

Barks currently 22/29 183 yards with 5 TDs and 1 pick.


Hes gonna set the TD record this season. Woods and Lee might be the beastliest WR combo ive ever seen.



Hes running away with the #1 pick, these other QBs are floundering - Tyler Wilson is currently 4/10 with 1 TD, 1 pick.

agreed. As I said before, he may simply be a product of a good system, but he's shown nothing that gives me the impression there's any reason he shouldn't go #1. That kid Lee had a monster game last week. and Woods is their top target still. Should be an interesting season to watch. McDonald needs to get his D on track. That kid was insane last year. I watched him single-handedly shut down UCLA when the rest of USC's D was all senior backups so they could get playing time before they graduate

 

[Dr. Jones]

Put me down now..... I don't like Barkley and I think he will be a middling pro QB.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not hardly. First off, there is no law that says a QB has to go number one. Secondly, he's just not that impressive especially when you consider all the talent he's surrounded by. And, I noticed you didn't say much about his interception. What the heck was that? For a guy who is supposed to be accurate, that was anything but. He's a first round pick but there is just too much talent coming out for him to run away with the #1 pick.

Steve

Yea the pick was bad, guy was open but the ball was high and behind the Wr and the safety cut in front and got it. Very badly thrown it could have been a huge play if the ball was thrown accurately.

It's very hard to determine how much is Matt and how much is those wr's.

 

[52brandon]

Put me down now..... I don't like Barkley and I think he will be a middling pro QB.

it's a real possibility. But as of today, in college, he looks like "the Juggernaut *****". Kid's humble, stays out of trouble, he's going pro very high, and I will be shocked if he's not the #1 QB and likely #1 overall

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yea the pick was bad, guy was open but the ball was high and behind the Wr and the safety cut in front and got it. Very badly thrown it could have been a huge play if the ball was thrown accurately.

It's very hard to determine how much is Matt and how much is those wr's.

Yeah, that's where I struggle on him. He rarely throws the ball where only his receiver can get to it. He puts it out there and lets his exceptionally gifted receivers make plays. I've seen a lot of throws from him that I just don't think will work against a decent defense. His targets look like men amongst boys but he won't have that luxury at the next level. I like a lot of things about him and I think he's an exceptional college QB but I don't see Andrew Luck out there or anything close to that.

Steve

 

[52brandon]

on a somewhat related note. Oregon has 2 rushers over 100 yards and it's not even halftime. WOW

 

[Krangodnzr]

Bodha, you always have an interesting perspective, but you couldn't be more wrong about Rivers and the Chargers. He won't be 31 until December, and while he threw 20 INTs last year (with a really struggling supporting cast and awful offensive line and no support from the running game), he still managed 7.9 YPA and nearly 300 yards a game.

They could get out from under his contract next year (he's due $12 million in salary, but would only count $4.1 million if they cut him), but if they wanted to dump him, I'd gleefully trade them our #1 and #3 picks for him. It would be one of the dumbest decisions in the history of football.

It's hilarious to me that you think that a bunch of teams are going to turn the page on Top 10 QB picks after a year and sometimes less.

Heck I would trade MORE for Philip Rivers. He was the player I wanted other than Larry Fitzgerald when he came out. I remember Skkorp loved him as well. The guy is a winner who hasn't had the supporting cast that Brady, Manning (squared), Brees, etc. have had.

 

[Dr. Jones]

it's a real possibility. But as of today, in college, he looks like "the Juggernaut *****". Kid's humble, stays out of trouble, he's going pro very high, and I will be shocked if he's not the #1 QB and likely #1 overall

I dont think he will go #1 based solely on being a solid pro prospect. His physical gifts are too average IMO. Personally, I think Matt Ryan is more physically gifted than he is. And Matt Ryan aint no athlete.

I think the perfect comparison is Leinart at this point. Physically, Talent around him, Time in college, etc.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Heck I would trade MORE for Philip Rivers. He was the player I wanted other than Larry Fitzgerald when he came out. I remember Skkorp loved him as well. The guy is a winner who hasn't had the supporting cast that Brady, Manning (squared), Brees, etc. have had.

AGREED!

p.s. I wanted Big Ben in that draft if Larry was off the board. Rivers is much better than I expected. I thought his delivery would be the death of him.

 

[52brandon]

I dont think he will go #1 based solely on being a solid pro prospect. His physical gifts are too average IMO. Personally, I think Matt Ryan is more physically gifted than he is. And Matt Ryan aint no athlete.

I think the perfect comparison is Leinart at this point. Physically, Talent around him, Time in college, etc.

could be. And a Leinart clone could come up through USC and post identical numbers, on identical plays, and will still be one of, if not THE top QB drafted

 

[Krangodnzr]

AGREED!

p.s. I wanted Big Ben in that draft if Larry was off the board. Rivers is much better than I expected. I thought his delivery would be the death of him.

I watched him throughout his career at NC State, I knew it wouldn't be. He's a winner and though he has an awkward throwing motion, it works.

 

[52brandon]

AGREED!

p.s. I wanted Big Ben in that draft if Larry was off the board. Rivers is much better than I expected. I thought his delivery would be the death of him.

probably wouldn't have been here. Big Ben would have fit perfectly IMO. Big and mobile behind our garbage line

 

[Dr. Jones]

could be. And a Leinart clone could come up through USC and post identical numbers, on identical plays, and will still be one of, if not THE top QB drafted

Leinart fell because NFL talent scouts were more right about him than we were.

He is top 5 IMO based on college production. I just dont see it translating.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Finally..... as it stands right now.....

If we have the chance to draft Jarvis Jones next year and we pass on him. I might lead a posse to storm Card's Headquarters.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Especially if we make another fantastically stupid luxury pick like we did this year.

 

[52brandon]

Especially if we make another fantastically stupid luxury pick like we did this year.

I didn't see this year's pick as stupid at all. Another WR threat should keep opposing Ds more honest

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

If we would draft Bustley, I will rip my TV off the wall. I watched and he did not impress me at all. Heck, the Syracuse QB has a better arm. Barkley has no pressure on him at all. By that, I mean he has the WR's that are either wide open or he can just throw it their direction and they'll make a play. I have yet to see a throw where I was blown away or didn't think just about any other average college QB could make.

Converesely, the 2nd play I saw in the Ark game was perfect 39 yd,or so, TD pass down the sideline that Wilson dropped in on stride for a picturesque TD. There is absolutely no doubt who the better QB is. I hope Bustley wins the Heisman and gets all the hype but he's no elite NFL prospect. He even looks smaller that his listed 6'2 or 6'3. I think he's a worse prospect than Leinart was. Somebody metioned comparing him to Matt Ryan, I think that's doing Matt Ryan a disservice. I go back to the Jimmy Clausen comparisons.

 

[Bodha]

Not hardly. First off, there is no law that says a QB has to go number one.

Thanks for enlightening us.

SecAnd, I noticed you didn't say much about his interception. What the heck was that? For a guy who is supposed to be accurate, that was anything but. He's a first round pick but there is just too much talent coming out for him to run away with the #1 pick.
Steve

You caught me.

I was trying to side step his pick by overexgerrating how impressive his 6 TDs were.

Your right. Hes going undrafted.




For that matter, Andrew Luck will probably be kicked out of the NFL since he lied on his College transcripts. The Colts must not have noticed he had 10 picks last year, otherwise they wouldnt have taken him. No question. 10 picks Are you kidding? What a jerk. Learn how throw a ball ye' BUM!

 

[AzStevenCal]

Thanks for enlightening us.



You caught me.

I was trying to side step his pick by overexgerrating how impressive his 6 TDs were.

Your right. Hes going undrafted.




For that matter, Andrew Luck will probably be kicked out of the NFL since he lied on his College transcripts. The Colts must not have noticed he had 10 picks last year, otherwise they wouldnt have taken him. No question. 10 picks Are you kidding? What a jerk. Learn how throw a ball ye' BUM!

Work on your reading skills. Also, life isn't a video game. You don't earn bonus points for being a jerk.

Steve

 

[Bodha]

Work on your reading skills. Also, life isn't a video game. You don't earn bonus points for being a jerk.

Steve

You tell me what I missed:

"And, I noticed you didn't say much about his interception. What the heck was that? For a guy who is supposed to be accurate, that was anything but. He's a first round pick but there is just too much talent coming out for him to run away with the #1 pick."

2 games into the season hes throwing for over 70% completion. 10 Tds, 1 pick.


Your so critical of the guy for no reason. Having talent around him is his fault? Most top 10 picks come out of power packed programs.

Also, theres just too much talent coming out that Barkley wont be the #1 pick.

Who then? Whos all this talent? Montee Ball who got shut down today? Marcus Lattimore?

I dont mind you disagreeing with me, I welcome it, but dont say that Im wrong in my opinion if you have no backing for yours.

Besides Geno Smith, theres noone close to Barkley anymore after today.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Wison was injured. I think it was a mild concussion. The freshman who came in had some nice throws but now La-Mon is getting back into the game.

It's funny, Barkley will get praised for a big day today and Wilson, to me, made it ever more clear that he is by far a better QB while getting dinged.

Look at it this way. The backup for Bustley could take over and USC will barely miss a beat, if at all. Silas Redd and Woods are the best players on that offense. Wilson goes down with a 21-7 lead and now a top 10 team is struggling with La-Monroe. Wilson is the entire show on that offense.

 

[AzStevenCal]

You tell me what I missed:

"And, I noticed you didn't say much about his interception. What the heck was that? For a guy who is supposed to be accurate, that was anything but. He's a first round pick but there is just too much talent coming out for him to run away with the #1 pick."

2 games into the season hes throwing for over 70% completion. 10 Tds, 1 pick.


Your so critical of the guy for no reason. Having talent around him is his fault? Most top 10 picks come out of power packed programs.

Also, theres just too much talent coming out that Barkley wont be the #1 pick.

Who then? Whos all this talent? Montee Ball who got shut down today? Marcus Lattimore?

I dont mind you disagreeing with me, I welcome it, but dont say that Im wrong in my opinion if you have no backing for yours.

Besides Geno Smith, theres noone close to Barkley anymore after today.

You said he was running away with the number one pick and you offered up the poor performance of other QBs as proof. I mentioned the obvious because you appeared to be ignoring the obvious.

As for the interception, it was noteworthy IMO and you extolled his virtues without talking about it or the fact that his receivers made plays on mediocre throws and gained a lot of that yardage after the catch. There was no call for the pick. He didn't mis-read the D, he wasn't under pressure, he simply missed his target by several yards. I think that's worrisome. Also, I didn't say you were wrong, I simply disagreed with you and told you why.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

You tell me what I missed:

"And, I noticed you didn't say much about his interception. What the heck was that? For a guy who is supposed to be accurate, that was anything but. He's a first round pick but there is just too much talent coming out for him to run away with the #1 pick."

2 games into the season hes throwing for over 70% completion. 10 Tds, 1 pick.


Your so critical of the guy for no reason. Having talent around him is his fault? Most top 10 picks come out of power packed programs.

Also, theres just too much talent coming out that Barkley wont be the #1 pick.

Who then? Whos all this talent? Montee Ball who got shut down today? Marcus Lattimore?

I dont mind you disagreeing with me, I welcome it, but dont say that Im wrong in my opinion if you have no backing for yours.

Besides Geno Smith, theres noone close to Barkley anymore after today.

I forgot to mention, I didn't say he wouldn't be the number 1 pick. I disagreed with your claim that he is "running away with the #1 pick". This class is loaded with top notch pass rushers any of whom could steal that number one spot. In addition to Lattimore that you mentioned, there's also the wideout from California or the OT from LSU. Maybe the guy from Utah. There's plenty of high caliber talent and Barkley, despite nice stats, has his question marks. Keep in mind those numbers came against Hawaii and Syracuse.

Steve

 

[Syracusecards]

I don't watch a lot of college football. Was this game along the lines of most of his games? If so, color me not impressed. I thin about 85-90% of his throws were about 7 yards max and his receivers did everything else. Max Hall could've scored 6 touchdowns with that supporting cast. SU played pretty good D, but they're not THAT good to force him to check down on that many throws. If this is a typical game for him, he's ML all over again.