Murray to Sit

[Harry]

I’m totally opposed to Murray sitting out the preseason. Considering the major changes in the receiving corps, I just don’t believe you can simulate game speed in training camp. I wouldn’t play him much but he should get some reps. We’ve been here before and the timing looked bad in early regular season games.

 

[DVontel]

@kerouac9 called it.

 

[DVontel]

Also, nobody here is going to remember a great Kyler play in preseason a week after it happened.

A lot of people here are going to remember injuries or lingering-injuries of when it first happened though.

Preseason also isn’t “game speed”.

 

[QuebecCard]

I’m totally opposed to Murray sitting out the preseason. Considering the major changes in the receiving corps, I just don’t believe you can simulate game speed in training camp. I wouldn’t play him much but he should get some reps. We’ve been here before and the timing looked bad in early regular season games.

"old school'.

They are going head-to-head with Minny in practice.

And if the timing is a bit off in game one, it won't be because Kyler missed a quarter of snaps in the preseason. (IMO)

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Any confirmation on whether or not he will be wrapped in bubble wrap while sitting out these games?

 

[slanidrac16]

I want to see him play because, well, I just want to see him play.

 

[kerouac9]

I’m totally opposed to Murray sitting out the preseason. Considering the major changes in the receiving corps, I just don’t believe you can simulate game speed in training camp. I wouldn’t play him much but he should get some reps. We’ve been here before and the timing looked bad in early regular season games.

There it is

 

[kerouac9]

I want to see him play because, well, I just want to see him play.

This is a fine take.

The dozen reps that he’d responsibly be deployed having a significant factor in his season’s performance is not.

 

[Syracusecards]

I searched for past superbowl winning qbs preseason playing time and look what popped up…..

Want to win a Super Bowl? Odds heavily favor coaches who play their QB and starters in the pre-season

See what Andy Reid’s plan is for pre-season game one

www.revengeofthebirds.com

I agree with Harry. Good to get the rust off even if only for a series or 2.

 

[oaken1]

There it is

like fooking miss Cleo ye be soomtimes

 

[Zeem_Freeze]

History of Kyler's first game of each season, leaving out rushing as I don't find that relevant for preseason reps discussion:
2019: 29 completions on 54 attempts (54%). 308 yards... 2 touchdowns, 1 Int... Cardinals loss vs Lions
2020: 26 completions on 40 attempts (65%). 230 yards... 1 touchdowns, 1 Int... Cardinals win vs 49ers
2021: 21 completions on 32 attempts (66%). 289 yards... 4 touchdowns, 1 Int... Cardinals win vs Titans
2022: 22 completions on 34 attempts (54%). 193 yards... 2 touchdowns, 0 Int... Cardinals loss vs Chiefs
2023: 19 completions on 32 attempts (60%). 249 yards... 0 touchdowns, 1 Int... Cardinals win vs Falcons, week 10 return after ACL

Kyler doesn't appear to start slow or have bad timing... but I'm also not sure on how much preseason was involved each year. I want to say much of the Kliff tenure had Kyler getting zero PS reps and even was Offensive coordinator one of the games.

Am I concerned Kyler will start slow? No I am not.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

History of Kyler's first game of each season, leaving out rushing as I don't find that relevant for preseason reps discussion:

2023: 19 completions on 32 attempts (60%). 249 yards... 0 touchdowns, 1 Int... Cardinals win vs Falcons, week 10 return after ACL

This is the most recent

You made our point for us

 

[QuebecCard]

Any confirmation on whether or not he will be wrapped in bubble wrap while sitting out these games?

Yes. And any fan can pop a bubble in return for a $100 donation to charity. True, I tell you.

 

[WakeForestCard]

This is the most recent

You made our point for us

Your point equates playing in pre-season to coming back week 10 post ACL-Tear? Can you elaborate?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Your point equates playing in pre-season to coming back week 10 post ACL-Tear? Can you elaborate?

He was rusty from lack of game speed reps

But you knew that already

 

[NMCard]

Preseason should only be for players trying to make the team. All of the starters should not even dress out.

 

[oaken1]

He was rusty from lack of game speed reps

But you knew that already

No. He was playing his first game in a new system...likely his first game ever in a pro offense,...while coming back from an acl...and facing the 2nd ranked defense in the entire nfl that was in mid season form...and he was still able to manage a completion percentage that was better than hall of famer Dan Marino's career average and match him in yardage...shame he didn't complete 1 more pass because he would have matched The Goat, Joe Montana...
But we all know facts have zero to do with the derogatory dogma...so you do you.

 

[Zeem_Freeze]

He was rusty from lack of game speed reps

But you knew that already

New offense, first game back after ACL, and he had a rushing touchdown and a game winning drive.

Are you implying his performance was poor? Because of zero passing TD and 1 int?

 

[DVontel]

You guys are taking that Bullhead post serious lmao

 

[Zeem_Freeze]

You guys are taking that Bullhead post serious lmao

I don't know why I took him seriously. Both Harry and Bullhead thought Kyler played well in the Falcons game LOL.

I just went and looked at the Falcons gameday thread... Bullhead couldn't watch the game and couldn't figure out how to stream it but he thought Kyler looked good from the highlights he saw and was concerned Kyler is so sharp he's going to ruin our draft position.

So basically I'm arguing with someone who couldn't watch the game but actually agrees with me. Oh the joys of football forums.

 

[daves]

2019: 29 completions on 54 attempts (54%). 308 yards... 2 touchdowns, 1 Int... Cardinals tie vs Lions

FTFY!

 

[Goldfield]

I don't know why I took him seriously. Both Harry and Bullhead thought Kyler played well in the Falcons game LOL.

I just went and looked at the Falcons gameday thread... Bullhead couldn't watch the game and couldn't figure out how to stream it but he thought Kyler looked good from the highlights he saw and was concerned Kyler is so sharp he's going to ruin our draft position.

So basically I'm arguing with someone who couldn't watch the game but actually agrees with me. Oh the joys of football forums.

Ouch

 

[Phrazbit]

Anyone whose position and role are already locked in shouldn’t see the field at all in preseason.

 

[BulldogCard]

It seems teams are returning to a little preseason week 1 for starters. Nobody was playing until Jaylon, Josh Allen, C.Williams' teams announced they were playing. Now Burrow, Mahomes, Kelce are playing. Stroud threw a td at Pittsburgh in a series or 2 and looked solid. But yet Kyler wants to sit or maybe the coaches and FO. I do agree that the injury risk is there but got to get reps. Maybe that says something about the Oline. I remember his first year preseason vs. Raiders and that embarrassing sack.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

No I did not watch the game

We did win the game but he was rusty

19

32

249

59.4

7.8

0

1

33

2

71.0

71 QB rating is not rusty?

So many want to give KM a free pass on everything

He is good QB that has flashed greatness and also bad

He is at a turning point in his career and this team won 4 games last year

He and the team should be doing everything possible to get the extra edge to win games

This team hasn't earned anything to sit back and pass on opportunities is not good

The Texans who we all thought was only going to win 4 games last year shocked the entire NFL

How? By hard work and doing whatever it takes, all of them

Last night CJ Stroud played some series to get the rust out and get prepared for the regular season

Is DeMeco Ryans wrong to play him?