My Take On Rosen So Far

[NJCardFan]

I don't think he's going to be the be all that ends all most think he's going to be. I just don't see it. Maybe it's McCoy but he sails a lot of passes, throws behind receivers, and that last INT, well, I'm going to throw that into the mailing it in at that point pile. But there's something about him I'm not impressed with. Is he horrible? No but I don't think he's going to be the savior everyone thinks he is. I give him an A for effort. Hopefully with a new regime I might change my mind and will gladly eat crow but I don't think I'm wrong here.

 

[THESMEL]

I see the tools but Rosen is far far away from being franchise player caliber - I still think Sam could take a good team to the playoffs - safe to say this is stench is not all sams fault

 

[Phrazbit]

Rosen is going through the rookie grinder.

And Sam Bradford has a long, well established, career of never taking any team anywhere. The only type of team he could wind up in a playoff game with are the type that Brad Johnson or Rex Grossman succeeded with. Bradford needs a strong running game and a great defense to elevate him to something beyond mediocrity. If he does not have those thing and is forced to do heavy lifting himself... you get a QB who throws 4 yard out routes on 3rd and 8.

He's been the de-facto starter in basically every season of his career. He's never been in the playoffs, he's never had a winning season and, most damning, he's never been at the helm of a passing attack that was even in the top half of the league. Bradford is, at best, a game manager... with serious durability problems... who has almost no hope of leading a game winning drive late (one in the last 5 seasons).

Just to keep people from mentioning him as a pity case, I wish we'd cut him and bury the topic.

 

[AZCB34]

Too early to tell. So many things around him are so bad that, until those get fixed, we simply don't know.

One critical pieceis continuity. He needs a few years in the same system with quality coaching and that is the point where we will begin tio have an answer. As it stands now, he will be probably learning another be system this offseason.

 

[LoyalRam]

Wait, did I step into a 2016 Rams forum, discussing Jared Goff? He was declared a bust by most of the talking heads after 7 games.

Passions are high after a crushing loss, which we have all experienced as fans. Our solution was getting a young, offensive minded coach who had a proven history of making QB's better. McVay did that for Cousins. Andy Reid made Alex Smith better and we know what Reid has obviously done for Mahomes.

I don't necessarily think you guys can evaluate Rosen when considering this year's horrific coaching, as long as the kid's confidence isn't ruined by the beating he is going to get for the next 10 games.

Just my two cents.

 

[Stout]

There's absolutely no way to judge him this negatively thus far. He was completely thrown under the bus to start this game, especially by that wuss Nelson. Seriously, you pull up from contact that would have at least drawn a penalty, if not lead to a reception, to give up a pick 6?

I'm not ready to say he'll be great, but I see nothing so far that says he can't be.

 

[DVontel]

lol at “Maybe it’s McCoy”

 

[Finito]

The kid was thrown into a historically bad offense with 3/5 of the starting offensive line missing. Lol

He might have made some mistakes of course he's a rookie but he damn sure hasn't been helped by anyone either.

I don't know what you people are expecting

 

[Dr. Jones]

The 2nd year will tell the tale.

 

[az jam]

Wait, did I step into a 2016 Rams forum, discussing Jared Goff? He was declared a bust by most of the talking heads after 7 games.

Passions are high after a crushing loss, which we have all experienced as fans. Our solution was getting a young, offensive minded coach who had a proven history of making QB's better. McVay did that for Cousins. Andy Reid made Alex Smith better and we know what Reid has obviously done for Mahomes.

I don't necessarily think you guys can evaluate Rosen when considering this year's horrific coaching, as long as the kid's confidence isn't ruined by the beating he is going to get for the next 10 games.

Just my two cents.

Totally agree with you. Was actually thinking of Goff under Fischer which was a disaster. Cards need to bring in the right HC/OC to mentor Rosen. Too bad BA has retired.

 

[Russ Smith]

He played terribly last night but given the situation it's not all that surprising. Josh said something after the game, I assume he was talking about Jim Mora but not sure but he said in college one of my coaches told me "don't turn a traffic accident into a fatality", what he meant was that last INT and the fumbles he was trying so hard to make plays, he forgot about ball protection and it cost them. That was the thing that drove me nuts about Jake for his 6 years here, he never learned the value of protecting the ball, that sometimes it's better to throw it away or cover up and take a sack and punt, instead of throwing it up for grabs. Josh is a smart kid, he had some rough patches at UCLA as well, I'm hoping what he said last night is what he learned last night.

When 3/5ths of your OL is backups and interior guys, there's no predictable pocket to step up into, when their outside guys beat their man what do you do, that's where Josh not being more mobile is an issue. But I said it before and say it again, a mobile QB in this offense and this OL is a recipe for disaster because he'll be running all the time and getting hit and eventually get hurt.

We're lucky Josh didn't get hurt last night he took a hard fall on his shoulder, the last toe injury, and a couple of other really tough hits.

 

[az jam]

Josh should have been taken out of the game in the 4th quarter. He was being killed. Stupid of Wilks to leave hime in.

 

[Garthshort]

Goff was the first player selected in the draft. Rosen was the 10th.

 

[Paso Fino]

The pass rush against him was intense but I'm surprised he didn't roll out. A Russell Wilson he is not.

 

[don7031]

"Ruined by Wilks" - is becoming the career epitaph for Josh Rosen.

 

[Yuma]

Well last night OL didn't block low and tipped ball was an INT. Second int JJ just quit on a route. How can you develop confidnce in your WR group when they quit on routes? The OL is a poo show. When he could step up he rifled some passes perfect. I think he has the goods as far as an arm. Reads he still is weak, but I think or hope experience fixes that.

 

[NJCardFan]

Well last night OL didn't block low and tipped ball was an INT. Second int JJ just quit on a route. How can you develop confidnce in your WR group when they quit on routes? The OL is a **** show. When he could step up he rifled some passes perfect. I think he has the goods as far as an arm. Reads he still is weak, but I think or hope experience fixes that.

Who's to blame for this?

 

[Buckeye Cardinal]

Well he’s not Derek Anderson.

The O-Line sucks.

The receivers suck.

The OC McCoy sucks.

I’ve seen enough good things that hope Springs eternal. Fire McCoy and make sure he doesn’t get killed back there. Find someone who can catch the ball.

Been following since the St. Louis Cardinal days and can’t think of a worse WR corps or offensive line or coaching.

Let’s keep Rosen and cut out the diseased tissue.

 

[Finito]

Who's to blame for this?

Who's to blame for guys getting hurt?

 

[Mainstreet]

Unfortunately the Cardinals cannot afford not to draft another quarterback.

It's too bad Rosen had to learn under offensive coordinator Mike Mccoy. I guess the Cardinals can change offensive coordinators and see what happens but I'm not sure the Cardinals can risk not looking at a quarterback in the next draft.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

I have no concerns about Rosen. Everybody looks bad in this shi# show. This team is broken.

 

[GatorAZ]

Tbh Rosen never jumped off the screen to me at UCLA. I was on the Darnold/Mayfield train but didn’t think they were perfect... When you go back and look at the game of his career vs Texas A&M he rallied them back from a crazy deficit but A&M’s defense literally dropped 3 picks in the 2nd half that could’ve ended the momentum. They were point blank drops that weren’t in traffic. I remember some bad decisions the next week vs Memphis in another shootout. Mora didn’t do him any favors and Rosen ended up with three OC’s in three years and had a terrible defense. Maybe Mora inherited a great team because he had b2b ten win seasons with Hundley early in his tenure.

Rosen was considering Stanford along with UCLA wasn’t he? That would’ve been a better decision.

 

[football karma]

im not concerned about Rosen.

my concern is that he is getting pressured/hit wayyyy tooo often --- and early in a QBs career, it can ruin them. That scares me

 

[iLLmatiC]

David Johnson looks like absolute poo in this offense. I'm not evaluating Josh Rosen until I see him with a competent coaching staff.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

I don't think he's going to be the be all that ends all most think he's going to be. I just don't see it. Maybe it's McCoy but he sails a lot of passes, throws behind receivers, and that last INT, well, I'm going to throw that into the mailing it in at that point pile. But there's something about him I'm not impressed with. Is he horrible? No but I don't think he's going to be the savior everyone thinks he is. I give him an A for effort. Hopefully with a new regime I might change my mind and will gladly eat crow but I don't think I'm wrong here.

You are entitled to your opinion but I believe it is too early to think this. I am concerned about him but look at the overall situation he is in. Online is missing people due to injury, play calling sucks, WR's dropping passes and overall bad play, and the coaching sucks. I agree he missed some wide open receivers and his sometimes passes off his back foot which causes errant passes but I think a new OC would help him greatly.