Nash wants out of PHX after this season

[sunsfan88]

From the most reliable source (according to mods there) on real gm:

The first is lottery protected. Will swap to the Orlando pick if we miss the playoffs. Brooks wanted out and Houston contacted us. Dragic didn't step on glass and that's all I'll say about that.

This was a smart move. We intend to trade Nash before/during the draft and will deal lopez possibly as well. We also will bundle whatever first we have. We want to get into the low lottery and want about 10-12 to grab Jimmy.

Nash wants one last run with the Suns. He asked to be traded. His statement is BS. His agent made known his wishes and when Nash said he didn't talk to his agent, that was BS. It's something agents do. They take the heat for things like this and when the player says 'I didn't say that' it's the agent job to save them face and swallow it.

Nash will take us into the playoffs. We have two point guards we want in this draft. Aaron will hold the fort until they are ready to take over. We want a top ten pick for Nash, our pick, and maybe Lopez. Then we will get a big with that.

Also added:

New York won't be where he goes. His wife is living in New York right now. Well, ex-wife and kids.

We want to trade Lopez for a pick in the 10-12 range. Maybe include Pietrus, whatever.
Trade Nash (Possibly Hill if he doesn't retire) for a below #10 pick.

If Nash makes the playoff without any decent PF it will raise his stock. His stock despite his age is on the rise after a full season. We would couple him with our remaining first to try and get a PF/Center for the future. Then use Robin +/- whatever to try and get in the 10-15 range.

Kemba/Jimmer are the two PGs we want for the future.
Not sure about PF/C

 

[Hat]

Yeh I read that too, my mind is officially blown.

Traxxe also added about Dragic:

Eh. Well, let me back that up. Glass was in his foot. But it wasn't just an accident. He was being an utter idiot.

WTF is going on with that kid?

 

[Mainstreet]

If true, this explains alot about the Dragic trade. However, if Nash wanted to be traded, why not before the trading deadline? The Suns do not have the players to go far in the playoffs... if they can get there.

 

[SirStefan32]

If true, this explains alot about the Dragic trade. However, if Nash wanted to be traded, why not before the trading deadline? The Suns do not have the players to go far in the playoffs... if they can get there.

From the Suns' perspective, it makes perfect sense. If they are looking for a top 5 or top 10 pick, they should wait until they know who is going to have what pick.

 

[slinslin]

if they trade up for jimmer fredette it's utter fail...

they should have just tanked and kept their pick..

 

[Covert Rain]

Wow...way to go out on limb Nash prognosticator. <insert Budweiser Commercial song here> Real American Hero...........Mr. Real GM insiiiiiiiiaaaaaaderrrrrrrr.

First off, everybody has been predicting all season long that Nash was either going to be gone by the trading deadline or by seasons end.

If your the Suns and you make this one last move and the Suns don't go deep into the playoffs.....exactly what motivation is there in keeping Nash?

You have to retool this team anyway. By the time the team gels yadda yadda Nash is a year older and that closer to the proverbial wall. Oh, and probably losing trade value the older he gets.

Not a stretch to make up some bull and spew it out there.....just sayin.

 

[Chaplin]

They may trade Nash over the summer if they get a good enough offer. Why anyone would think otherwise is nuts. So why is this news? It isn't.

But they are not going to trade Nash just to trade him. We WILL get assets back, you can bet on that.

 

[Sunburn]

Someone enlighten me. Was Utah wringing their hands in desperate fret over squeezing trade value from Stockton?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

if they trade up for jimmer fredette it's utter fail...

they should have just tanked and kept their pick..

Yeah it would be pretty epic fail.

 

[desertdawg]

This is such a bogus insider plan. Like anybody knows how it's gonna go down. Sure, we might shop Nash, Lopez, a pick or two, Warrick, Childress, could be anybody for anybody.
If these guys are so inside, why didn't anybody catch wind of the Brooks trade? Sounds like a rumor machine to me, shots in the dart that sometimes hit, but very rarely. Isn't this the place that just said we were making some other wishy washy trade a day or two ago?

 

[sunsfan88]

If true, this explains alot about the Dragic trade. However, if Nash wanted to be traded, why not before the trading deadline? The Suns do not have the players to go far in the playoffs... if they can get there.

Nash wants one last chance at a title with the Suns.

If Nash said he wants play this season out then no way were we gonna trade him against his will.

 

[joshstmarie]

Wow...way to go out on limb Nash prognosticator. <insert Budweiser Commercial song here> Real American Hero...........Mr. Real GM insiiiiiiiiaaaaaaderrrrrrrr.

First off, everybody has been predicting all season long that Nash was either going to be gone by the trading deadline or by seasons end.

If your the Suns and you make this one last move and the Suns don't go deep into the playoffs.....exactly what motivation is there in keeping Nash?

You have to retool this team anyway. By the time the team gels yadda yadda Nash is a year older and that closer to the proverbial wall. Oh, and probably losing trade value the older he gets.

Not a stretch to make up some bull and spew it out there.....just sayin.

Totally agree with you here. This traxxee guy is full of it.. why not say something about dragics foot issue a long time ago.... like saaaaay when it was actually news? Hes always a day late, dollar short. The best was when his buddy called him at 3am in the morning and told him "amare to clevland was a done deal"... then the next morning he says ohh yea my insider was drunk, then threw a fit and dissapeard for 3 weeks like he always does when people call him out.

 

[sunsfan88]

Updated...according to him the two PGs we are looking at are Kemba Walker & Jimmer Fredette.

 

[carey]

Totally agree with you here. This traxxee guy is full of it.. why not say something about dragics foot issue a long time ago.... like saaaaay when it was actually news? Hes always a day late, dollar short. The best was when his buddy called him at 3am in the morning and told him "amare to clevland was a done deal"... then the next morning he says ohh yea my insider was drunk, then threw a fit and dissapeard for 3 weeks like he always does when people call him out.

That wasn't him. Him and ray ray have been pretty solid considering... Whether you all believe or not is up to ya'll, but I don't understand why ya'll have to be so *******.

 

[Griffin]

I'm confused. Did any of those "insiders" posted about the Brooks trade before it was reported in media?

 

[Chaplin]

I'm confused. Did any of those "insiders" posted about the Brooks trade before it was reported in media?

Nope. They had no clue. It was only after the trade happened they started giving up their "insider" information about the problems with Goran.

 

[Mainstreet]

if they trade up for jimmer fredette it's utter fail...

they should have just tanked and kept their pick..

The pick of Jimmer is scary because he apparently lacks athleticism. The Suns may be trying to catch lightning in a bottle if they think he will turn into another Steve Nash. It reminds me when the Suns drafted Casey Jacobsen perhaps thinking about Jeff Hornacek.

 

[devilalum]

The pick of Jimmer is scary because he apparently lacks athleticism. The Suns may be trying to catch lightning in a bottle if they think he will turn into another Steve Nash. It reminds me when the Suns drafted Casey Jacobsen perhaps thinking about Jeff Hornacek.

That Jimmer's game seems to be a lot like JJ Reddick coming out of college.

 

[Mainstreet]

That Jimmer's game seems to be a lot like JJ Reddick coming out of college.

If one is going for a clone, it needs to be a clone of a good player (Nash) not a clone of someone that I can't even remember his game (Reddick).

 

[joshstmarie]

That wasn't him. Him and ray ray have been pretty solid considering... Whether you all believe or not is up to ya'll, but I don't understand why ya'll have to be so *******.

It was him. I was involved in the thread. Traxxe has never ONCE broken anything. All he does is elude to things that have already been rumored to happen.

Don't expect major trades until summertime. It also depends on the new CBA.

Without getting too much on it (very popular wordage with him IE gorans glass in foot post) we have had talks with GS, ATL, CLE, CHI, NYK (All of these teams are either interested in nash or have already been mentioned in trade speculation with other teams..nothing news breaking here) and a few others that made no headway.(ok!?)

No one wants Childress(obvously, but do we want to move him? I dont think so). HOU would with Gortat.(ok we've known this since the original gortat trade) Vince yields little in value at this juncture. If we do something it would involve Pietrus, Childress, and/or Vince. (how bout none of them) We've rejected calls for Nash.(hmm where have i seen this before??? oh EVERYWHERE) (I said earlier he would be dealt in the summer)

Don't wait too anxiously at this point. So far we wouldn't get too much back since we are hesitant to throw in Nash/Hill/Gortat/Frye at this point. Most interest has been in those three or Lopez. We're not excited to trade Lopez but will if we can dump Warrick/Childress with him.

This was posted not more than 24 hours ago... hes vague, and he sells yesterdays news to his realgm fanbois. And dont worry you dont have to stick up for him, he doesnt actually post here.

 

[TucsonDevil]

To those that knock Fredette, I have watched a few of his games here in Utah. Count me among those that believe in this kid. He may be short, but he is strong. A high percentage of his points come from free throws - he knows how to score several different ways. He isn't a lock down defender - but who in the NBA can lock down Chris Paul? Deron Williams?

 

[HooverDam]

Anyone at all curious as to what a team with a Top 10 pick (and thus likely a rebuilding, young team) would want with a 38 year old PG? Lets look at the current lottery teams as listed on NBADraft.net, would Nash make sense for any of them?

1. Cleveland: No
2. Minnesota: No
3. Sacramento: No
4. Toronto: Maybe, but more to sell tickets than anything
5. Washington: No
6. New Jersey: No
7. Detroit: No
8. LAC: No
9. Milwaukee: No
10. Charlotte: No
11. Houston: No
12. Golden State: No
13. PHX: N/A
14. Memphis: Yes*

*Both Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol are expiring. The Grizz can probably afford to keep one or the other but perhaps not both. I could potentially see a deal that was something like RoLo+Nash for Gasol+low lottery pick.

That would give the Grizzlies a fun lineup of Nash-OJ Mayo-Rudy Gay- Zach Randolph-Robin Lopez, but they're certainly not contenders, especially with no bench. Would the Grizz give up a Lottery pick for a year a shot at being a 4-6 seed? Its possible, they're certainly one of the less strong franchise in terms of fan bases and perhaps an um ptempo Nash led team would energize their fan base.

But the point remains, the options of teams to ship Nash to within the lottery is extraordinarily limited, thus giving the team the Suns would be dealing with a lot of leverage.

 

[Tyler]

Anyone at all curious as to what a team with a Top 10 pick (and thus likely a rebuilding, young team) would want with a 38 year old PG? Lets look at the current lottery teams as listed on NBADraft.net, would Nash make sense for any of them?

1. Cleveland: No
2. Minnesota: No
3. Sacramento: No
4. Toronto: Maybe, but more to sell tickets than anything
5. Washington: No
6. New Jersey: No
7. Detroit: No
8. LAC: No
9. Milwaukee: No
10. Charlotte: No
11. Houston: No
12. Golden State: No
13. PHX: N/A
14. Memphis: Yes*

*Both Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol are expiring. The Grizz can probably afford to keep one or the other but perhaps not both. I could potentially see a deal that was something like RoLo+Nash for Gasol+low lottery pick.

That would give the Grizzlies a fun lineup of Nash-OJ Mayo-Rudy Gay- Zach Randolph-Robin Lopez, but they're certainly not contenders, especially with no bench. Would the Grizz give up a Lottery pick for a year a shot at being a 4-6 seed? Its possible, they're certainly one of the less strong franchise in terms of fan bases and perhaps an um ptempo Nash led team would energize their fan base.

But the point remains, the options of teams to ship Nash to within the lottery is extraordinarily limited, thus giving the team the Suns would be dealing with a lot of leverage.

I could see Bryan Colangelo trying to catch lightning in a bottle with Nash again plus Nash is Canada's golden child.

 

[SirStefan32]

I could see Bryan Colangelo trying to catch lightning in a bottle with Nash again plus Nash is Canada's golden child.

Nash is 37 years old. There isn't much lightning to catch in that bottle.

 

[Chaplin]

Anyone at all curious as to what a team with a Top 10 pick (and thus likely a rebuilding, young team) would want with a 38 year old PG? Lets look at the current lottery teams as listed on NBADraft.net, would Nash make sense for any of them?

1. Cleveland: No
2. Minnesota: No
3. Sacramento: No
4. Toronto: Maybe, but more to sell tickets than anything
5. Washington: No
6. New Jersey: No
7. Detroit: No
8. LAC: No
9. Milwaukee: No
10. Charlotte: No
11. Houston: No
12. Golden State: No
13. PHX: N/A
14. Memphis: Yes*

*Both Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol are expiring. The Grizz can probably afford to keep one or the other but perhaps not both. I could potentially see a deal that was something like RoLo+Nash for Gasol+low lottery pick.

That would give the Grizzlies a fun lineup of Nash-OJ Mayo-Rudy Gay- Zach Randolph-Robin Lopez, but they're certainly not contenders, especially with no bench. Would the Grizz give up a Lottery pick for a year a shot at being a 4-6 seed? Its possible, they're certainly one of the less strong franchise in terms of fan bases and perhaps an um ptempo Nash led team would energize their fan base.

But the point remains, the options of teams to ship Nash to within the lottery is extraordinarily limited, thus giving the team the Suns would be dealing with a lot of leverage.

Certainly the Clippers might have some interest in Nash.