New York Giants @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 09/10/23-09/16/23

[Ronin]

For one game I wished we had VJ as DC.
VJ owned Daniel Jones.
VJ put players in position to have career games against Daniel Jones.(Reddick,CJ)
VJ is 2-0 against Daniel Jones. In Daniel Jones Home.
Without VJ I think this game is a coin flip.

 

[HairZach]

Not much difference between Jones and Howell, except one's rich.lol

Man I don't know about this game. I just don't know.

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Jones is a lot better than Howell but his OL is definitely worse. If Andrew Thomas isn't playing we might have a shot. The defense will need to score though.

 

[Ronin]

“A lot better”
2023 TD’s so far
Sam Howell 2
Daniel Jones 0
:-/

 

[Covert Rain]

I think it’s a good call to give Dobbs a home game. If he can’t get the offense clicking against the Giants? Maybe by half try Tune?

 

[Ronin]

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[dreamcastrocks]

Without VJ I think this game is a coin flip.

A coin flip is a hell of an improvement from just one week ago. Most people expected us to lose by double digits I would wager.

 

[kerouac9]

A coin flip is a hell of an improvement from just one week ago. Most people expected us to lose by double digits I would wager.

I’ll take that wager.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I’ll take that wager.

Yessir, I think we're going to lose by 10

 

[kerouac9]

Yessir, I think we're going to lose by 10

Line on BetMGM is 5.5 right now; I’m guessing it settles a point higher. 10 points is the absolute maximum. The Giants made the playoffs last season winning an unusual number of one-score games.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Who did Amin and Stink piss off at Fox?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I’ll take that wager.

I meant that was how much our AZ Cards fans would have guessed we would have lost by, BEFORE week 1.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

This is how pathetic the Giants were in week one:

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[Phrazbit]

This feels like a stupid, ugly game.

Giants 18
Cards 11

Both teams get a safety.

 

[BritCard]

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I don't get this. Yes they will be desperate. Does that make them a better team or a tougher team to beat?

Are we to think they weren't completely up for a home opener against their fierce division rivals but this week they will really be dialled in?

 

[BritCard]

I think talent is more important. They played very hard, but despite the Dallas result I think their offense is much better than Washington’s.

Honest question. How do you think it's better outside Saquoan?

Their receivers last Sunday were Hodgins, Cager, Slayton, Campbell. Darren Waller aside its poor.

Stop the run and make them throw has never been more apt.

 

[BritCard]

The stadium is going to be full of Giants fans, not sure how that will affect the result.

But I'm going to go with

Cards 24
Giants 17

 

[Ronin]

It’s pulling at my heart strings that Daniel Jones is going to look great against our defense. We just don’t have the horses to compete with a below average qb.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Giants 23
Cardinals 13

 

[kerouac9]

Honest question. How do you think it's better outside Saquoan?

Their receivers last Sunday were Hodgins, Cager, Slayton, Campbell. Darren Waller aside its poor.

Stop the run and make them throw has never been more apt.

Daniel Jones is way better than Sam Howell.

 

[cardpa]

I predict 31-10 Gmen.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Daniel Jones is way better than Sam Howell.

Pretty definitive statement on a guy with a small sample vs a guy with a fairly large and often poor play sample size

Jones probably is better though.

 

[BritCard]

Daniel Jones is way better than Sam Howell.

Is he though?

I'll give you better, but not way better. Jones is the worst highly paid QB in the league. Not better enough to make this offense better than Washingtons.

 

[Garthshort]

Jones does give their offense a VG 1-2 running game punch with Saquon.

 

[BritCard]

Josh Jones had a 43.7 PFF grade and had 2 penalties for the Texans on Sunday. Maybe trading him to the Texans was part of the master plan.

 

[kerouac9]

Pretty definitive statement on a guy with a small sample vs a guy with a fairly large and often poor play sample size

Jones probably is better though.

Yes. I'm pretty sure Daniel Jones with 54 NFL starts is better right now that Sam Howell with 3 NFL starts. There's a difference between not justifying the sixth overall pick in the NFL draft and maybe not as good as a former fifth round pick entering his second year.

Is he though?

I'll give you better, but not way better. Jones is the worst highly paid QB in the league. Not better enough to make this offense better than Washingtons.

He's way better. Cool that Jones is the worst highly paid QB in the league, but that's not what this conversation is about. You can have a legitimate debate about how much better Daniel Jones is than Derek Carr or Jared Goff. That's just a different conversation than whether Jones is better than Sam Howell.

There's a reason Washington paid Jacoby Brissett $8 million this year, and it's not because he's an amazing tutor.