New York Giants @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 09/10/23-09/16/23

[BirdGangThing]

Josh Jones had a 43.7 PFF grade and had 2 penalties for the Texans on Sunday. Maybe trading him to the Texans was part of the master plan.

So you value the PFF grades... when it suits you

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[DVontel]

lol what the hell am I reading?


The Giants just ran into a buzzsaw Sunday night. Daniel Jones is clearly better than Sam Howell.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Josh Jones had a 43.7 PFF grade and had 2 penalties for the Texans on Sunday. Maybe trading him to the Texans was part of the master plan.

Eh I don't think PFF accounts for everything, to include the difficulty of the opposing player.

 

[Krangodnzr]

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How are Young and Stroud moving up??

 

[TheCardFan]

Josh Jones had a 43.7 PFF grade and had 2 penalties for the Texans on Sunday. Maybe trading him to the Texans was part of the master plan.

What position did he play...RT?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

How are Young and Stroud moving up??

No idea, but I had the same questions.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[BirdGangThing]

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They have Daniel Jones as a mid-level QB - with both Howell and Dobbs at the very ass end - can't say I disagree

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[kerouac9]

No idea, but I had the same questions.

Because Aaron Rodgers left the chat and Zach Wilson joined.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[BullheadCardFan]

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Hey coach

Welcome to Arizona

You'll see....

 

[QuebecCard]

So you value the PFF grades... when it suits you

Doesn't everyone on this board?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Ronin]

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[Krangodnzr]

Yes. I'm pretty sure Daniel Jones with 54 NFL starts is better right now that Sam Howell with 3 NFL starts. There's a difference between not justifying the sixth overall pick in the NFL draft and maybe not as good as a former fifth round pick entering his second year.

Maybe. I mean if you remove his one outlier year, Daniel Jones is averaging 12 TDs per season.

He's way better. Cool that Jones is the worst highly paid QB in the league, but that's not what this conversation is about. You can have a legitimate debate about how much better Daniel Jones is than Derek Carr or Jared Goff. That's just a different conversation than whether Jones is better than Sam Howell.

There's a reason Washington paid Jacoby Brissett $8 million this year, and it's not because he's an amazing tutor.

I'm not disagreeing with the idea that Jones is better, but he is also a known quantity while Howell is not.

 

[kerouac9]

Maybe. I mean if you remove his one outlier year, Daniel Jones is averaging 12 TDs per season.

I'm not disagreeing with the idea that Jones is better, but he is also a known quantity while Howell is not.

Okay.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Doesn't everyone on this board?

Not me. I don't think they are much of an accurate reflection at all.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Garthshort]

Not me. I don't think they are much of an accurate reflection at all.

You might be right, but speaking for myself, they are the ONLY ratings I see.