NFCW training camp battles

[Skkorpion]

Addresses the issue by picking one important position up for grabs on each team.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10900578

 

[black]

Good topic Skkorp.

The Seahags have nothing to worry about it seems. But beauty is only skin deep. The reason for no camp battles is because of age. They are getting older.

The Rams defense is so young while they have not picked it up on the other side of the ball. Again, the Rams are getting older on the side of the ball they prospered in so many years now.


The 9ers have a situation at QB yes. Either QB I wouldn't fear really. I already know Smith is a fairy. As far as the other guy, I guess a team can win in the NFL any given Sunday.


The Cards.. I'm so tired of the Warner/Leinart drama I can almost puke right now. But what I can add is the Cards are young and talented on both sides of the ball with a little vet spice to keep it real. Could be a very special year for us.

 

[DaisyCutter]

The Warner v. Leinart battle is so played out. The best battles in camp, IMO, are Elton Brown v. Deuce Lutui (starting RG) and Travis LaBoy v. Bertrand Berry (Starting WOLB).

 

[cardsfanmd]

I am sick of hearing about Leinart/Warner too. We are gonna end up seeing both QBs this season anyway. I am just hoping that BSP stays on the sidelines.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Seattle actually has a pretty young team - although there are some aging players at a couple key positions, they should still have some good years ahead

most are either in their prime or entering into it

with that said - there should be some interesting battles - i'm interested to see what happens at RB - who they decide to keep at FB - the TE battle - which of the young WRs will seize the opportunity (if any.......)

can sims retain his job at G upon switching to the right side of the line or will he get beat out by a veteran guy or a young guy like wrotto

defense should be pretty boring for battles - the DT will work on a rotation, but there is still some question on who can emerge as more of the every down player - also with the DE across from kerney - a bunch of young guys who will probably rotate, but who gets the lions share?

 

[DaisyCutter]

I'm interested in seeing the kind of WR corps that Seattle is going to be able to deploy until Deion Branch comes back. Brett Favre was great at turning pretty craptacular WRs into stars. Hasselback hasn't shown that ability.

If one of those young WRs are able to step up, I think that the Seattle offense is upgraded from "efficient" to "explosive." But I'm not sure I totally see that happening.

 

[CardLogic]

Question regarding SF's QB competition: Which QB, Hill or Smith, is stronger at chucking the rock down the field? With Martz at OC, the position will probably go to the one with the stronger, more accurate long ball.

I'm guessing that's Hill.

 

[DaisyCutter]

Question regarding SF's QB competition: Which QB, Hill or Smith, is stronger at chucking the rock down the field? With Martz at OC, the position will probably go to the one with the stronger, more accurate long ball.

I'm guessing that's Hill.

Neither Warner, Bulger, or Kitna had a cannon attached to their shoulders. What they had was great accuracy (at least, Warner and Bulger did) and a quick release.

 

[CardLogic]

Neither Warner, Bulger, or Kitna had a cannon attached to their shoulders. What they had was great accuracy (at least, Warner and Bulger did) and a quick release.

Hence the inclusion of the phrase "more accurate" in my statement.

Sheesh!

What I am interested in is which do you (not specifically you, Daisy; although you are included in the you I am addressing) think will win the position?

 

[BigRedRage]

Neither Warner, Bulger, or Kitna had a cannon attached to their shoulders. What they had was great accuracy (at least, Warner and Bulger did) and a quick release.

Warner has a quick release?

 

[DaisyCutter]

Warner has a quick release?

I think so. He's a really quick decision-maker. Compared to Josh McCown (who had a very slow release), and even Matt Leinart (a little), I think it's a pretty quick transition from decision to release.

 

[BigRedArk]

I do like Edge a lot but we need a training camp battle at RB.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I do like Edge a lot but we need a training camp battle at RB.

Just wondering what you've seen from any of our other RBs that leads you to think that.

 

[CardinalChris]

Seattle actually has a pretty young team - although there are some aging players at a couple key positions, they should still have some good years ahead

most are either in their prime or entering into it

QUOTE]

I think part of it is the positions at which that age exists. The nicks and bumps on Hasselback is concerning over the past couple of years too. Without him that machine to the North just won't be the same.

 

[Skkorpion]

Seattle actually has a pretty young team - although there are some aging players at a couple key positions, they should still have some good years ahead

most are either in their prime or entering into it

with that said - there should be some interesting battles - i'm interested to see what happens at RB - who they decide to keep at FB - the TE battle - which of the young WRs will seize the opportunity (if any.......)

can sims retain his job at G upon switching to the right side of the line or will he get beat out by a veteran guy or a young guy like wrotto

defense should be pretty boring for battles - the DT will work on a rotation, but there is still some question on who can emerge as more of the every down player - also with the DE across from kerney - a bunch of young guys who will probably rotate, but who gets the lions share?

Seattle is better than most here want to allow.

I'm biased about John Carlson because I'm an Irishman. I 've seen every game he's played. Last year, every team double-teamed him on every down because he was the only receiving threat on a horrible team.

Seattle did their homework and traded up 15 spots to get him. If there is a reincarnation of Mark Bavaro, he's it. A great blocker, runs good routs and has excellent hands. No, he's not a deep seam threat, too slow.

Seattle's problems, in my view, center around the announced transition from Holmgren to a guy already on his staff. If the players tune Mike out, as I expect, Seattle is in for an underperforming year.

 

[Shane]

Just wondering what you've seen from any of our other RBs that leads you to think that.

I think you misunderstand him. I take it as he wishes there was somebody here that could battle Edge for the starting spot.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

agree that seattle's age is in some key positions - probably the oldest guys they rely on the most are Hass, Jones & Engram ......... I think both Hass & Jones are at positions where normally you can get a few more good years out of them, health provided .......... both are really hard workers, but are starting to take longer to recover - i'm comfortable with the backup situation in seattle at QB, although I don't see a long term replacement in there ........ the OL situation is firming up, but there isn't anything that can really replace jones, although LTs can play a long time at a pretty good level

Engram doesn't rely on athletic ability and doesn't take really big shots - but his age concerns me the most

I'm also not too worried about this being holmgrens announced last year - when mora was hired before last season pretty much everyone knew that he would be the future coach and there were some personnel changes that would fit more of his style

with the "lame duck" scenario I can see two paths - the first is that everyone tunes out and does their own thing

the second is they rally behind the person leaving, try to impress the successor and go out/start up on a winning note

given how long MH has been there, the success they've had a team, how well run the organization is - i really don't see this as a problem - if anything I think it could help if mike coaches a little bit more with a nothing to lose mentality - as long as they are competing I think everything will be fine - it's a hungry group of players who aren't going to spite away a year of their career when they have a shot at a playoff run - it's not like the lockerroom is split against mike - the players like him

same reason I don't think there will be that much of a problem in Indy even though dungy is on his way out

 

[BigRedArk]

I think you misunderstand him. I take it as he wishes there was somebody here that could battle Edge for the starting spot.

Exactly Shane. It would also likely mean that if we had a battle going for the starting spot we would have some genuine depth there too.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Exactly Shane. It would also likely mean that if we had a battle going for the starting spot we would have some genuine depth there too.

In that case...